dave_bass5

Ive been using my 1212L on its side for a while now. Having the upper, angled driver pointing at my head means i can always hear myself very clearly. Plus it makes my rig look a bit more manly.

[quote name='TomKent' post='1215401' date='Apr 29 2011, 10:59 PM']This cropped up on my news feed haha. Think I was on about 42 hours on the go there, was knaackered![/quote] Nice playing and tone.

[quote name='thodrik' post='1218788' date='May 3 2011, 04:31 PM']I usually bring an extra head with me just in case my main amp goes, or if another bassist doesn't bring any geat and I am feeling generous. Also I usually bring a Sansamp Bass Driver to a gig. I usually bring two speakers to a gig, so if one goes I can carry on with the other. In the event that both my amps die, both my speakers break and the Sansamp breaks down, I would probably just go through the PA, though given the previous events I am pretty sure that my bass would then break too. If my backup bass then broke, I think I would just probably call it a day and go home.[/quote] .....only to find the car wont start :-)

I do worry about my amp packing up but as i have a BDDI, and a DI out from my radio receiver i hope one of these will be enough to get me through the gig by going through the PA. I normally DI out of my amp in to our small PA, just for a bit more spread but its a very quick change over to plug in to the Radio receiver mid song if i had to, and then set the BDDI at the next break. Fingers crossed i'll never need to use this backup plan.

Pete. I'll make this very quick as I'm about to out, I'll follow this up when I get back. First off thanks for the help. The only cab I have at the moment is my 4 ohms 1212L. I do also have a 4 ohms 1210R but I don't use it and as soon as I vet it back from my drummer I'll probably sell it. Eithe way at the moment I can only use one cab with the amp. Your right though, after a few gigs lol probably settle down a bit. 500 watts has always been enough, I think it's more the change of tone rather than volume that's thrown me. Saying that, I do still want a 900 but it's not a major concern. If I can get a good deal on a upgrade then I wil. I'll be back later. By the way, all my posts over the weekend have been from my iPod touch. It's been a struggle trying to get all this typed so so some of my posts have been cut short.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1217355' date='May 2 2011, 11:25 AM']The 6 and 9's are all minimum 4 ohm loads Im confused?[/quote] I meant I would still get around 575watts with a 8 ohm cab with the 900. I could then add another cab if and when. With my 600 I'm stuck at 600 watts with the cab I have. If I want to try a other cab out, and i would prefer to get a 8 ohms for the reasons above, I won't be able to use the one I have with it so I would only have around 375 watts. That would be a step backwards.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1217355' date='May 2 2011, 11:25 AM']The 6 and 9's are all minimum 4 ohm loads Im confused?[/quote] I meant I would still get around 500watts with a 8 ohm cab with the 900. I could then add another cab if and when. With my 600 I'm stuck at 600 watts with the cab I have. If I want to try a other cab out I won't be able to use the one I have with it so I would only have around 375 watts. That would be a step backwards.

[quote name='chris_b' post='1217298' date='May 2 2011, 10:40 AM']That's like buying another car because it's got a top speed of 180 instead of 140![/quote] Or buying an amp that will suit my needs better. See my last few posts above ;-) At the moment I'm limited to what cab I can use as it's a 4ohm. If I got a 900 I could start experimenting with other cabs, maybe even use two if I can get them in the car.

[quote name='Musicman20' post='1217089' date='May 2 2011, 12:35 AM']I'm actually quite shocked how great the prices are on the Streamliners...theyve crammed a lot into the amp: [url="http://www.bassmerchant.com/item_detail.php?product_id=1117&category_id=2"]http://www.bassmerchant.com/item_detail.ph...p;category_id=2[/url] That's the cheapest I've seen so far.[/quote] This is why I'm contemplating the 900. An extra 300 watts for £100. Very good price.

[quote name='warwickhunt' post='1216871' date='May 1 2011, 08:35 PM']Why would you want to lower the input gain and balance it by increasing the output to where it is clipping? If the input is suitably matched to the output from your bass then you should have a nice healthy signal that need not be too thick as to sound overdriven. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to achieve. [/quote] The way I figure it is if I reduce the input to the tube and turn off the boost I'll get a cleaner tone but by doing this I will also need to up the master to compensate. I'm assuming I might need to push the master quite high to achieve the same volume, but cleaner. Again, this is all based on the one gig so I might be jumping the gun a bit.

I understand about too much volume can damage the speakers but the way I'm seeing it is I want to be a le to reduce the input stage and have the gain button out, without loosing volume. I think to do this I need to turn the output up quite high to match the level with the button in and gain up at about 11 o'clock if that makes sence. The gigs I do would never require me to turn up enough to damage the cab. At least using a lower powered version gives me the chance to use the 3D power management feature. The DI out is pre or post EQ and it's the gain and pre knobs that seems to determine the output level through the DI. I was running it post though and will try pre next time but as it's a vocal PA and im just going through it for a bt more spread I normally go post on my SA450 to get a better tone. I tried everything flat onthe 600 but it still clipped the input (both mic and line level).

[quote name='Raggy' post='1216701' date='May 1 2011, 05:31 PM']Dave, I asked Roger over on TB about the light coming on as was told "The light just means you're engaging the 3dPM section"[/quote] Thanks for that, I feel a bit better about it now. I guess this might be the one advantage the 600 has over the 900 for smaller gigs. I did sound good, whatever was happening.

I think you are right John. I just need to get used to it. It was a good tone and I'm very happy with the amp, I just can't help worrying about that peak LED coming on so early. Seing as both my rigs for the past few years have been 500watts in to one 12xx cab I know it's loud enough, I just don't want to get any dirtier.

Thanks Chris. I would say the MB is thicker and fills out the low mids more. The 600 has a more articulate tone, lots of mids but not in a muddy way, so there is more space in the lower freqs of the mix. I'm happy with the tone and maybe I need to adjust to the different tone. I might then end up not pushing the amp too hard. The cab has loads of mids so it wast a case of not cutting through or not being heard, more a case of a bit bass light. I have also been using a BDDI recently and didn't last night so again, a tone I'm not yet familiar with. Changing the cab isn't really an option as I can't afford to , and I can't really get anything bigger. I do know that a bigger cab will help but I've been using the 1212L for a few years and I know it's good enough for most of our gigs.

I might just be jumping the gun a bit. Seeing as this was in a tent i would expect to turn up a bit more than in a indoor venue. Normally my 500watt SA450 never goes over halfway so while the 600 coped just as well I was worried that the peak LED came on a few times with the master below halfway. Its probably down to how I had the input set. With the gain on 11 and pre on 2-3 the input on the desk was also peaking, and this was with the input gain turned right down. I also had the gain button in so that didn't help. I'm sure this amp will be fine for most of our gigs but I am looking in to maybe doing a trade in if it doesn't cost me too much.

Just finished my fist gig with my 600 and the jury is still out. It was a very nice tone, no doubt, and quite different from my SA4500 so it will take a few gigs to get used to it. I do think i need a 900 though so i will will look in to trading the 600 in fi i can. Tone wise it was nice, each note had authority and although different to what im used ot hearing, it made a nice change but i cant help feeling im going to run out of headroom at some of my bigger gigs. The amp cut out a couple of times during one number where i was slapping hard (i dont make a habbit of doing this) Although the peak LED was lighting up im not sure if it was the amp or my radio system cutting out, it has done this in the past so maybe it wasnt the amp. I had no other problems with the amp though and i dont for one min think the amp is faulty.

[quote name='bobbytodd' post='1215547' date='Apr 30 2011, 09:27 AM']we dont bother with setlists our singer just tells us whats next.its his job to read the crowd.the only down side with this system is he tends to have his faves so the set dosnt get rotated as much as id like[/quote] Exactly what we do, although we do all tend to have some input. It does rather limit what songs we play though as my singer does rely on lyric sheets for newer songs so we cant just go straight in to them.

Yeah, good luck with the next wave Gareth.

[quote name='Alfie' post='1212384' date='Apr 27 2011, 10:23 AM']I also enjoyed it, especially as Avery Sunshine's bass player seemed to be playing a Squier Classic Vibe, awesome![/quote] I was wondering about that bass. I only caught a few secs of it last night as i prefer to watch it in HD at the weekends but it was nice to see a Squier on there.

[quote name='Clarky' post='1212335' date='Apr 27 2011, 09:31 AM']Bit extreme Dave![/quote] Ooops, maybe it a new keyboard i should have brought. Fixed. Actually, as the gig is in a Teepee maybe it should be Sioux-ing ;-)

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1212332' date='Apr 27 2011, 09:22 AM']Relax - mine's done loads, and it's fine. [/quote] Yeah, im sure its going to be fine, as are the many others out there.

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1212317' date='Apr 27 2011, 09:05 AM']Best edit the post, then - we don't want to mislead anyone, do we? (btw, one of Ken's problems was a dodgy valve, which could have broke during shipping. Just sayin'.)[/quote] Done. I really dont want to come across as a GB hater, im not and i love my SL600 so far, but in the past week ive read of 3 faulty heads and this is making me nervous. I know these things happen but they shouldn't, and its the same old argument, great service means nothing if an amp fails mid gig. lets hope this is the end of it for Gareth, its about time he had some good luck and im really looking forward to using mine at its first gig on Sat.

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1212295' date='Apr 27 2011, 08:09 AM']Just out of interest, what was the other dud Genz amp Gareth had?[/quote] Sorry, that was a typo, im meant to write Ken Jung, not Gareth.

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1211906' date='Apr 26 2011, 06:45 PM']Crap happens. It's how it's resolved that counts.[/quote] Do you work for Ashdown ;-)

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1211879' date='Apr 26 2011, 06:25 PM']Nice to see Fender upholding Genz' reputation, I think.[/quote] Well so far Gareth has had one dud amps from Genz and KJung has had two, all with "Passed QC" tags on them. Is that the rep you mean ;-) Only joking (sort of). EDITED to correct my mistake.