Drax

Interesting. Which model was that?

David you should at least get your money's worth, especially compared the cost/benefit of face-to-face lessons. Echoing Grangur, it's the structured approach that helps. Don't be put off by the more simplistic areas. I forced myself to sit through the lessons in order and found something in most of them. The theory approach is the most logical I've seen, and there's technical stuff in there that will stretch you for years (if that route is your thing..). There's also the motivation that 'I've paid for it - I'm going to damn well make sure I get my moneys worth' (just like you said when you joined the gym:) )

Echoing all the earlier comments - yes to Vertigo, fantastic cases. The rubber heel is brilliant, esp if you're on / off public transport a lot. Bass is very secure in there, it's really midway between a gig bag and a hard case, you can throw it around. (BTW, its the earlier model, the M80 they make as a dual case)

Ha, yeah heard some of that too. We've just thrown a band together for a friend's party - Theme from Minder is a lot of fun to play (as is Theme from Bergerac!)

The finish looks impeccable in the flesh / wood so to speak. Agree the look is an acquired taste. Part of the appeal is their uniqueness, never seen an Avenger live (which is a shame really). I think for me part of the pull is flying the flag for a great UK (and local to me at least) luthier - he deserves to succeed with these. Billy Apple here's the link > http://www.enfieldguitars.com/

GAS leak again. After some excellent luthier work from the very lovely Sims in Ashford, I'm interested in thier Enfield basses (the Avenger specificially), where they've created from scratch the 'all things to all men' pick up config, with accompanying traffic lights.. Anyone out there have any experience with Enfield ?

OP how can you own all those classic old Jazzes and not already be on first name terms with your local luthier

http://basschat.co.uk/topic/26654-recommended-luthiers/

Yeah great point. It's a bit like cooking - if the raw ingredients are high enough quality - ie those thick, lush live strings - you can get away with a much simpler recipe. I've found since I've started writing with a partner, whose production knowledge is way above mine, I've been able to get away with fewer 'ingredients' in the mix, as each one works better / harder. On a related note, there's a fantastic book on Arranging by Richard Niles which I'm currently devouring [url="http://richardniles.com/the-invisible-artist/"]http://richardniles....visible-artist/[/url]

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1416492805' post='2610807'] I agree, that's GAS for you... Though in my experience the joy of a new purchase is relatively short-lived. [/quote] I used to do alot of work with Porsche. The buying cycle for your 'next' Porsche, starts 6-8 weeks after taking delivery of your new one. How many times have I felt 'this is all the bass I'll ever need'.. !

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1416491802' post='2610785'] It would be interesting indeed. Given that most basses are essentially built to the same basic design and largely sound quite similar to each other within a relatively limited range of parameters. How much of it is about status, reputation, branding, loyalty and... good old snake oil?? [/quote] Moving from £1k instrument to £10k one, won't make you a better bassist, and won't really sound better, it's all about GAS. Nothing wrong with spending this much if it makes you happy of course. Given the music that has come out of bassists over the past 50yrs , most of which have not have had an instrument costing this much, it all feels a bit unnecessary.

Whatever you decide, make sure you play the actual bass you're going to buy. Big variance in build quality and general 'feel' , esp at the cheaper end of the range.

[quote name='toneknob' timestamp='1415967436' post='2605655'] He's great. You know about [url="http://gongband.info/event/londonhighbur-uk/"]http://gongband.info...ndonhighbur-uk/[/url] right? [/quote] Thank you thank you - didn't know about that !

The Hurting is a great album. Easy to slate them for being overproduced but underneath it all is great songwriting and hooks

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1415317556' post='2599271'] It varied a bit, 50p or £1 per track (some tracks are over 7 minutes long, one over 10 minutes, only one is less than 4 minutes), for the album the lowest was £3, the highest £10, most paid £5. [/quote] Really interesting thread. I had no idea of the sort of numbers and conversions from Bandcamp. That 80% are prepared to pay, and pay decent amounts. Obviously a reflection of your great music but when you can access most of the last 50 yrs for £5 a month, its great that people are digging deep to support new music.

http://basschat.co.uk/topic/206038-fender-jazz-bass-american-vs-mim-vs-mij-video/page__p__2062036__hl__fender%20mim%20vs%20mia__fromsearch__1#entry2062036

[quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1415193149' post='2597653'] Sorry Dan, I came across as an arrogant tosspot. Which I am I'm just using any tactic to avoid finishing my year end accounts, to stave off the tears a little longer [/quote] Not at all mate! Yep I'm 'working from home' today. Got some good practice in at least

Cool - ok thanks, understood Didn't fully appreciate the difference in cost. I knew there was some logic behind it, given the support from bassists who seem passionate about nice instruments.

Ok. So when you buy a '72 Jazz or whatever, you're buying it for the build / the sound / the heritage etc - the chipped paint and oxidised tuners, is just a by-product. Isn't this like putting a Jaguar e-type bodykit on a Ford Escort, or a fake Rolex? Yes it looks the part, but it just isn't?

I'm new to Limelight. Am I right in saying they're new basses, made to look old? I really really don't get this. Possibly I've quite understood what they are..

Poorly made IMO. Just had a custom shop tweed right angle cable fail, something internal disconnected. Monster Cables are generally great and bullet proof.

Excellent. Was asking about just this the other day and drew a blank, and couldn't find any online resource. Thanks for posting

[quote name='Zenitram' timestamp='1415034712' post='2595915'] Yeah, audio is far more elastic than it used to be, and in many ways is [i]more[/i] malleable than midi. Stretch it, compact it, chop it, tune it, you can do all sorts these days. I'm sure Pro Tools is packed with fun things to do with audio; in fact, isn't audio its strong point? Or is it more about "tracking" and "producing" than composing. [/quote] That's it. ProTools is a great bedrock for the full blown studio, but other DAWs are leagues ahead on intuitive / creative audio manipulation.

I've had similar as a seller, and yes it does often go in the buyers favour. From my experience it was less about scammers, and more just that there are some real pain in the a*se people out there..

Most of the basslines I listened to as a kid were played on a Fairlight, they were £25k then and I only had a paperround. I'd still love one now.