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I use my friends sometimes. Quite a nice cab. As long as the price is right I dont see why not. No idea if the USA made ones are better...contraversial issue!

I had the same sort of cash situation around xmas time. It could have gone on a holiday...and then that would have been it. £1400+ on two weeks, a few awesome memories. So, when I think of amp depreciation, I make sure I remember it could have all been fluttered away. At that sort of price range, upgrading to a better car would have also been a waste. My suggestion is try and test. I bought my Orange for a good price considering I knew it had literally just been put out on the shop floor. So...any early depreciation doesnt matter now because I saved a fair whack anyway. Be prepared to haggle and search for the best online prices. I had my heart set on a classic all tube amp, and if it didnt sing straight away....and I mean instantly, I moved on. I don't understand why people have to eq for a few hours to get their sound. If the amp isn't your sound, no EQ or pre-shape will help you. I tested the Ampeg VR 300W all tube and it just didnt feel right. It weighed far too much, and I knew Ampeg were starting to 'sink' so to speak, so depreciation on that would have been massive. I definitely suggest looking at Mesa, Orange, Hiwatt, Matamp, and Glock. There are a lot more out there. Maybe even a top end lightweight amp? Have fun

Have to say...awesome setup. I love P's i sburst....youve got all 'basses' covered with those necks

Im going to try and get down to Bass Direct just to at least test the Bergs soon. I need to know what all the fuss is about! Then and only then do I know what to do.

I have heard a few basses really pulling off the proper Fender J Passive tone, but still not perfectly. But that could be amps, technique, anything. I am basically looking for the best 5 string Jazz...classic bodyshape, two single coils, probably passive, that growls like a Fender Jazz but has something different about it.

[quote name='greyparrot' post='541823' date='Jul 15 2009, 11:59 PM']If you can get a good deal, go for the 08/09 US jazz. Great build quality, great sound, great case! and it will sell quite well compared to mex etc. The new Jazz and P basses are top notch, and if you can get one for like £750 is gotta be worth it. At the end of the day a Fender JAzz is just that, and no sandberg/sadowsky/lakeland will ever be a Fender Jazz. They may copy the tone, and even sound better in some cases, but they wont sound like a true jazz bass. when i had my jazz, I tryed a lakeland jo osbourne, and while good, it did not have that growl of the fender.[/quote] Hey I was looking at getting a J Osbourne 5 as well. Do they really not hold up to a Fender Jazz? The Fender Jazz tone for me is perfect! Who makes a quality Jazz 5 thats close to Fender sound as you can get?

Alternatives = Aguilar DB8x10, Orange OBC8x10. I have heard the Aguilar...it is INSANE. SO much more low end than the Ampeg 8x10.

Alternatives = Aguilar DB8x10, Orange OBC8x10. I have heard the Aguilar...it is INSANE. SO much more low end that the Ampeg 8x10.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jGkNm-vZLk&feature=channel_page"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jGkNm-vZLk...re=channel_page[/url] 8x10 will be a beast...but SO heavy. Confirmation of 1000W Bass Terror makes me very happy. Add that to the GAS list plz. I wouldnt mind hearing their SP cabs...wonder what the 4x10 is like?! They are TINY.

If you have an 8ohm 2x12...I think you can just add an 8ohm [u]1x12 [/u]with no problems....I dont see why not...anyone else know?

Personally...I opted for 2 DB212s....as a large rig instead of an Ampeg which I got rid of. These bury the Ampeg....but mainly in the thick yet articulate tone. Loving Aguilar gear.

I think the new ones are all tube. Never really tried Fender for bass amps. Their guitar amps have some of the BEST cleans ever...great for blues and indie....but never ventured into their bass gear, (despite the fact my favourite Fender 'guitar' amp is actually the bassman, originally a bass amp!)

Looks good. I can try and take it to a practice or two and a gig...lots of em coming up.

[quote name='longtimefred' post='546918' date='Jul 21 2009, 07:36 PM']Dude!!! I have just downsized from my Trace 8x10 to a David Eden 2x12. Never looked back.... The way it changed the sound of me and the whole band was amazing, it instantly made the bass warmer, more like thunder and made the guitars cut through more rather than battling against the angry mid range of the 8x10. Dont worry about not being heard, i play in an aggressive metal band and thought it would never work, thats why it stayed at home for over a year. I recorded with it and then tried it in a live situation and the difference was amazing. If you can find one, try it... they are amazing. Im trying to find a second one. [/quote] Agreed on the 2x12! Basically, its like a warm sonic punch! But its still gives you nice details if you get the right cab. Surprisingly dead loud.

The Stingray looks the coolest though, (yes, I am vain).

Thankfully all my GAS is bass related, sometimes guitar. I get no GAS for cars....thank god. Cars just annoy me...unless its a high end Audi.

If you dont mind about 70lbs plus removable casters, seriously check Aguilar DB212s. I am VERY impressed with mine. Thick, full, articulate, and throaty. They are VERY loud....even one 8 ohm one. Excellent cabs.