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[quote name='clauster' post='1097644' date='Jan 21 2011, 03:19 PM']There's the problem: The two at the top of my list, I can't just go to a shop and audition. I could go on the travelling super twelve list (if there is a super twelve doing the rounds) but don't want to do that until I've got the head I want. Realistically I'm not going to get the Matamp as it will just give me GAS for a matching GT200.[/quote] Matamp and BF are VERY different. If you want the whole Matamp/tube vibe, go for it with Matamp....im sure they will do you a deal on the amp and cabinet.

[quote name='alexclaber' post='1097501' date='Jan 21 2011, 01:45 PM']Yes indeed. Have you tried a Super Twelve? [/quote] No, not as yet, but the same reasons as Sk8. I would be willing to try one out if I was guaranteed I could sell it on and the BF brand was still going strong in 4-6 years (not saying it wont be!) and that it has the aesthetics and 'finishing' that's on my others cabs. I am a very vain person. Hahah. This is going way off topic!

[quote name='EBS_freak' post='1097481' date='Jan 21 2011, 01:34 PM']Here we go. Case in point. Do less hearing about. Do more test driving and hear the things for yourself![/quote] +1...this is the only way to see if you like it!

Nice to see a selection of colours. Good idea overall to release a cheaper version

Oh heck this topic is best 2x12 which is subjective! Lets not turn this into yet another basschat BF vs everything else thread. The BF 2x12 might be right for the OP, but it might not, suggestions are great, but lets not say 'THIS IS THE GREATEST' as it might not be for their tonal goals. Not everyone cries about weight! If the BF cabs are your favourite, and you are posting about them, why dont you own one?! Play nice...

As mentioned, price is a massive factor. Do you mind spending £800 or more? Also, look into resale value. Personally, I'd go for Aguilar again, GS112x2 or GS212, or DB112 x 2 or DB212. Both are tried, tested, and respected worldwide which means resale value is great.

Hmm, at that price, two RS210s by TC and you'll have good resale value.

I could hear differences through the YouTube videos on my iMac.

I forgot to mention the TC 212! Superb tone, size, weight, aesthetics, and actually very well priced!

Markbass now make a NY122..£700 ish. The Genz is a good one to try. If you aren't bothered about neo, try the Aguilar DB212!

[quote name='guybrush threepwood' post='1095541' date='Jan 19 2011, 07:38 PM']Enough mids?! *Hearty laugh* It's chunky mate! But the voicing definitely favours lower mids; my p bass sounds punchy as heck, whilst the stingray simply growls. Love it.[/quote] +1 I need a new photo of mine.

[quote name='lollington' post='1095578' date='Jan 19 2011, 08:07 PM'][url="http://www.andertons.co.uk/bass-guitar-amps/pid19561/cid561/tc-electronic-bc212-2x12-bass-cabinet.asp"]How about two of these?[/url] I'm guessing they're 8ohm?[/quote] Bass Merchant usually have a full selection to try, which is what I did. The two RS212s will be MORE volume than most of us need. Fairly light, easy to move, punchy tone, and a nice smooth tweeter.

Oh heck everyone, I can sense a internet argument brewing somewhere. No need to get too involved you know, if you dont like it, state why, then thats cool, we can all accept that. I think the term 'fanboi' is a little difficult to digest. I think what I'd describe myself as is a player of EBMM instruments. This hasnt come around from the internet or forums, it has come from trying them out, and finding they work for me. I got my first real Stingray over 12 years ago, and Id wanted it for a few years before that! Why? The aesthetics, the different scratchplate, and more importantly, the tone. MASSIVE tone. That, and the fact my teacher at the time who stated that they make instruments that are very high quality without the 'custom' price tag. So yes, Ive followed them since then, way before I got involved with forums. Am I a fan of their instruments? Yes. Why? Well, I am, thats it. I say enjoy what you like, and dont get too bogged down.

I havent heard any but the idea seems excellent, but I think the majority like the separate amp/cab idea, and its probably been hard work trying to show people how different the IP system is. I imagine we will see a neo version, or none at all.

Love the Markbass stack/gear

We can all pick and point at it, but until its played....lets not worry about it. If we talk about new innovative designs that some are sceptical of, we could go on for a long time about a few eg: fanned frets, neo speakers, etc. I like to reserve judgement until Ive played one.

[quote name='derrenleepoole' post='1092280' date='Jan 17 2011, 11:24 AM']Well, after reading up a bit last night on the rig I used, I was very surprised to read that the head is only rated at 200 watts. Given that I was running it into a single 8 ohm cab, that means I was only pushing less than half of the available power for the whole gig, and I was way loud enough. This revelation has floored me. Obviously a single 4x10 is going to move some air, but how can such a relatively low watt rating be so loud when compared to a solid state counterpart amp? Incredible. Overall, I was very impressed with the build quality of the Orange gear, and I'm very intrigued to explore it further. I mentioned earlier on about the Tiny Terror head. I now understand that this is a tube pre and solid state hybrid. If I am concerned about weight issues, would the TT offer the same kind of sound I experienced at the gig with the all tube head? Or is there some compromise at play here with such hybrid system? Also, the isobaric cabs seem very interesting. Someone mentioned efficiency issues with these. Why should I be concerned about this if they're designed to go with the TT head? So many questions hey? [/quote] I still dont know the full reasoning why a tube amp sounds 'louder' and seems to have more volume on tap, but Ive seen huge bands play very very large stages with the AD200b Mk3 and two cabinets. It seemed a lot of the bands I listen to are ex-Ampeg users and have switched to Orange due to the recent 'problems' with Ampeg. I think Ampeg are pulling themselves out of it, but in the UK, its a no brainer, as the Orange gear (well the high end of the catalogue) is hand made in the UK and comes with a 3 year warranty. I agree anyway, the 200 watts (or whatever the true rating) is incredibly loud. One thing to note, tube amps are their FULL wattage no matter what cabinet/ohmage. So at 8 ohms its 200W and at 4 ohms its 200W. When you start pushing that gain, it gets quite dirty, but in a very pleasing way...and it seems to get incredibly loud to the point where I have lots of volume left on tap. The amp you are thinking of is the Bass Terror, which is a hybrid 500 watt light weight amp. Very good price, very light, and can capture the vibe of the bigger AD200b quite well, but obviously it will never have that full girth or tube push. Its close though. Personally, if you dont want the bigger AD200b Mk3, try the Bass Terror 500 with a few cabinets. The Smart Power SP212 is one punchy little fella! Or, try it with the traditional Orange OBC115 or 410, or try another brand as well. Hope this helps. I had the same reaction when I played mine for the first time. Like 'woah.....this is it!'.

Nothing sounds like my Orange rig...nothing. I couldn't give two hoots about weight because I have the light option as well...which is lucky. Glad you enjoyed it.

This has won the Best At Show New Product at NAMM 2011. I really want to try it.

3 EQ and 2 EQ is nice....dont worry about the subtle differences. 2EQ = Seems fatter and warmer to me. 3EQ = Same tone, control over the mids, little more modern and aggressive.

White body with rosewood board

Sterling - Ceramic pups, more aggressive modern middy sound but basically a MM tone, jazz type neck, very comfy neck heel and body shape. Stingray - Classic alnico pups, more fat smooth tone, P ish neck but very easy to play, larger body. Both VERY nice. Ray is classic, Sterling is for those who fancy something a little bit different.