Gunsfreddy2003

+ 1000 for the Musitronics Mutron III, I have come to the conclusion that no other filter sounds as good as this one and it is so good that the only other one on my board that is getting any use is the Agent 00 Funk Mark II which I use into the Brown Dog for synthy type sounds. The Mutron is so good though that when rehearsing a tune the other day and needing a 70's/80's type funk synth bass sound I just switched the drive from up to down and wow there is the sound in spades! Yes they are expensive but I assure you it is the only filter that you will ever need. [quote name='Higgie' timestamp='1318778187' post='1406071'] +1 for the Boomstick Bottom Feeder. I have one of the early versions when it was the ToneFactor 442 Red. I would also recommend the original Musitronics Mutron III, the Subdecay Proteus and Prometheus, and the Maxon AF-9. The AF-9 is really Mutronish and will get you in the ballpark for a lot less money. Another cheap and cheerful one to try out would be the DOD FX25. Really cool pedal. Out of the list I've given, the only one I don't currently own is the AF-9, and the only reason for that is that I have the Original Mutron. Although if one came up cheap I'd probably nab it anyway! In case you can't tell....I LOVE Envelope Filters [/quote]

Half of that is all that I would pay! It's nice but not that special!! [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1318758402' post='1405759'] Its one of those things I would like after seeing the one in the pre EB thread Mark but I cant really decide what I would pay for one? Not £85 Im certain but what? [/quote]

That is what I have always done but never used on yet! [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1318689202' post='1405255'] In my case, use them to replace new strings Serioulsy though, keep a set as spares in your gig-bag, just in case of breakage. [/quote]

Bloody hell for that price I would want it to play the set and pack my gear away too each time I used it!! [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1318757258' post='1405749'] [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MUSICMAN-VINTAGE-BASS-STRAP-1978-1979-/120793038765?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&hash=item1c1fd37fad"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1c1fd37fad[/url] I have been after one of these for a while but seriously £85? [/quote]

Many thanks for taking the time to write all that out - it sounds like it could answer a lot of the problems that I have with my board! The biggest one being that when I go from one sound with 1 pedal and then changing to the next sound with 3 I can avoid all of the tap dancing routine that I do at the moment! Will see if I can find a 2nd hand one on the bay or on the forum. [quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1318359889' post='1401176'] It's not complicated: I can use it! It can have complicated uses, but the way I use it is very simple. The LS-2 has two loops. You can put pedals 1, 2 and 3 on loop A. You can also put pedals 4 and 5 on loop B. Each loop has individual level controls. You can preadjust each to match your tone when the pedal is off (and all 5 pedals are out of que equation). You can then choose teh pedal to act as a simple A/B switch, switching between loop A or B. Or to follow the sequence A - B - off - A - B - off - ... etc as you press the pedal. Or to just switch A/off, becoming a switch for the A loop only. Or the same with the B loop... Or blend both A and B adjusting the blend with the individual A and B level controls. I started using one for a very simple reason: I wanted to use my microQ-Tron pedal, but it does not have a level control and it's too loud when you engage it. Simple: I put the microQ-Tron alone on loopA, and turn down the volume a bit with the LS-2. I select the pedal to A/off mode and the microQ-Tron permanently on. Then when I want to switch on the microQ-Tron, I step on the LS-2, and when I step on it again it turns it off. It works brilliantly. The next step was... "ah, so I can use this to blend dry signal?" Yes. I can use the B loop, with nothing on it, to have dry signal that I can blend with my QTron. You control the balance with the level controls again. That was pretty cool, as I could use a very trebly setting on the microQ-Tron, and add some dry bass to it.. and it sounded a lot more round. This works really well with distortion/overdrive pedals if they do not have their own dry blend control. Right now I have 3 pedals on the A loop, and use B to blend dry signal. I don't use all three at the same time. Sometimes it's only one, sometimes one pair or another pair. I preadjust the level as before, and during the song I just step on the pedals I am going to need, with the LS-2 off... and simply stomp on the LS-2 to activate that particular combination of pedals. I hope you get the idea. I have actually bought another LS-2 so I can use two separate sets of pedals and preserve the ability to blend dry bass. One LS-2 controls envelope filters and octave, the other will have a couple of overdrive pedals. I hope this gives you a better idea of the practical use of the LS-2. It's a really versatile tool, even if you only use it for one particular thing in the end. [/quote]

Great idea - will try that to see if there is a big difference in volume or if it just perceived. [quote name='Wally' timestamp='1318283878' post='1400178'] One of our guitar players has a decibel meter as an app on his i-phone. We've used it to measure and then smooth out the volumes switching in and out of effects with good results. [/quote]

I have looked at the LS2 spec on the web and it seems quite a complicated peice of kit! Can anyone explain in simple terms what it can do? I have never used effects loops before you see! [quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1318284954' post='1400194'] I use a Boss LS2 for that purpose. [/quote]

Yes probably - if I could just get both Stingrays to have the action like the jazz and Rumour then I would be happy!! The Pre-EB desperately needs some new strings so did not get taken to rehearsal last week - can't stand it when the strings sound dead. [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1318277036' post='1400066'] Another job for Bernie?, I'm thinking of sending him my 5 for a little fret work and setup if I buy something as a backup to use while it's away, it's good but I feel it could be even better with some Bernie magic [/quote]

Actual depth - compared to the jazz and the Rumour it feels really wide. I am not sure that it is a bad thing just different if you know what I mean. The classic 5 does not feel quite as bad but the action is really a bit too low so will have to get that looked at. [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1318271605' post='1399976'] In what way do you find it fat mate, nut width or the actual depth? Mine is really slim depth wise and flat like an Ibanez guitar, I Love it! I also dropped on light one, its the lightest of all 3 of mine, I can only imagine how good it sounds for the extra weight though [/quote]

Hi all, Beginning to have a few problems with my sounds when I rehearse or play live and wonder if any one has any sensible solutions or suggestions? When using any of my active basses I find that when I switch to a thumbed passage in a song the bottom end is dropping out so I have started to tread on the compressor to use as a slight gain boost to compensate for the apparent drop in volume in bottom end. Trouble is that in a couple of tunes I am also using the Mu-Tron and Octaver to get a nice synthy sound and when you then switch from that monstrous sound to my regular bass sound (i.e. no effects) it sounds like everything is gone both in terms of volume and bottom end. Anyone any ideas how I can regulate the effects to more similar volume levels? I use a Tone Hammer or Sadowsky pre with me vintage jazz to fatten the overall tone and wonder if I would be better to use this with the active basses when I am slapping and reserve the compressor with gain for the vintage jazz when slapping to help keep the volume up. Any advise greatly received.

The pre is fantastic and fast becoming my favourite bass! It just sits so well in the mix and sounds so good when you dig in a bit during some funky music - that growl cannot be matched by any other bass IMO. I only draw backs with the bass that I have found are the neck (it feels very fat compared to my jazz and Rumour) and the weight it is bloody heavy compared to my other basses and particularly the Classic 5 which is a lot, lot lighter. [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1317588066' post='1392191']Great photo! Massive Ray5 classic gas, I think next year will be the year of the classic. How are you getting on with the pre now Mark? The neck looks great.[/quote]

Recently purchased a Classic Stingray 5 to pair up with my 4 string pre EB Stingray. Thought I would share some pics of it with you all today. [url="http://photobucket.com/Stingray5pics"]http://photobucket.com/Stingray5pics[/url]

Finally managed to get some pics up of my '77 Stingray. Forgive the bad pics but they were the best that I could manage on my camera phone. I will get some better ones up once my wife finds some time and her camera!! Last pic shown the pre EB bass alongside the new Classic Stingray 5 that I have just bought. Having huge problems uploading images so used Photobucket and link is below. [url="http://photobucket.com/stingraypics"]http://photobucket.com/stingraypics[/url]

What year is the other one? [quote name='gareth' timestamp='1317512441' post='1391504'] 1977/78[/quote]

Nice board. How do you find the Octamizer? I wonder if it would do a better job than the EBS one that I use? I run my Sadowsky at the start of the signal chain, how come you run yours at the end? Is the Loopmaster Patcher purely for tidiness purposes? [quote name='Higgie' timestamp='1317468737' post='1390984'] Haven't updated this for a while! This is the board I've been using lately. Signal chain is: Bass > Aguilar TLC > Aguilar Octamizer > MojoHand Cream Pie > X-Blender (Swollen Pickle Clone > Subdecay Proteus in the loop) > Sadowsky Pre (Korg DT-10 from Tuner Out) > Aguilar DB750 The whole board is in a LoopMaster Patcher to make things neater, with my In and Out from the board in one place. It's a PedalTrain Jnr with a Diago Power Station powering the whole board. Also, the little grey unit with the pick holder on is a 1 in, 2 out passive splitter I used to use when I had a bigger board. I velcro'd my pick holder to it for a convenient place to store my picks - I had no use for it's actual function on this board but there was space for it, so I put it on there anyway Some excellent boards posted here! Shep your boards are awesome! The only thing about them I don't envy is the weight! [/quote]

OMG double vision - what a lovely pair!! Nice radio dial knobs on the bottom one. Did you buy them both at the same time or one first then the other? Interested to know why you went for two the same colour? [quote name='gareth' timestamp='1317486666' post='1391230']Pre-EB epoxy preamped rays enjoying the autumn sunshine [/quote]

Very, very nice example. [quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1317373412' post='1389933'] That's what I'm talking about. [/quote]

No I really only wanted a natural coloured one and I was also quite particular about how much figuring there is on the back of the neck. I also wanted to buy a bass that was made in 2011 to celebrate my son's birth so decided a Stingray 5 Classic might be a good investment seeing as my YOB jazz cost quite a lot to buy 34 years later!! Anyway my son was born on 23rd Feb this year and this Stingray was built on 22nd Feb 2011 so just had to have it!! Everyone talks about the B string on these basses - are they really any better than on a normal Stingray 5? [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1317397774' post='1390393'] +1 it's why I don't mind using my tidy one, if it ends up like CK's all the better I thought maybe you had taken the one from BassDirect Gunsfreddy, if things were more settled with the wifes job I'd of already bought that one by now. All in good time....[/quote]

Don't know yet - picking it up when I get home tomorrow. Will give you some feedback once I have had a noodle with it. Have a rehearsal on Tuesday too so should be able to give it more of a bash then. Shamefully I opted for one in natural again!! [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1317365026' post='1389835']I'm fairly certain my next one wil be a Classic5 after a couple of deals to secure a very early 5 both fell through. What's it like? [/quote]

Promise to get some pics of mine up when I get back home - have been meaning to do this for months! Using the Stingray a lot now and love it so much that I just bought a 5 string to go with it!! [quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1317241355' post='1388647']Ace! And welcome [/quote]

That would be Neil Corcoran then I guess? [quote name='Jazzneck' post='1371103' date='Sep 12 2011, 09:18 PM']Get thee behind me Satan! I do not need anotherI do not need anotherI do not need anotherI do not need anotherI do not need anotherI do not need another................................. Thanks, Pete - she is a fine bass and I would like to know more of her history. From what I've heard she used to belong to the Aussie bass player witha band called "Mother Earth" in the 1980/90s. The neck is dated 1982 and the rest is 1980, so whether it is a later replacement or not, I do not know. If anyone knows anymore I would be really chuffed to hear about it. M.[/quote]

Don't worry - I didn't put it in my OP!!! Did want a Shure system but they were too expensive. [quote name='J.R.Bass' post='1366954' date='Sep 8 2011, 08:46 PM']Ahh sorry Must learn to read the original post fully![/quote]

I have already bought an Audio Technica system! [quote name='J.R.Bass' post='1366929' date='Sep 8 2011, 08:32 PM']Sure E2's with the foam tips are my choice. They came with my IEM setup. I bought the new SCL-5's at the same time (the new E5's) and ended up sending them back and saving my self £400. I've had them 3 years and one ear has started to go faulty but i'll get myself another pair in an instant for the price i can get them at. Also, if your looking at wireless systems, i can recommend the Shure PSM series.[/quote]

Did you buy these from the States or do they have a UK retailer? [quote name='Gareth Hughes' post='1366764' date='Sep 8 2011, 06:20 PM']Having the molds makes a huge difference, IMO. I've just moved from using Sennheiser IE8's to JH Audio JH7 Pro's and it's a world of difference. Aside from the multiple drivers, I really feel the molds play a huge part in getting a good, tight bass response. Pricey but worth checking out: [url="http://www.jhaudio.com/collection-promusic.php#7"]http://www.jhaudio.com/collection-promusic.php#7[/url][/quote]

So if going for the single driver option and replacing the filters in my ER-15's that means either Puretone or ACS. Anyone got any ideas which one is better or worse? [quote name='algmusic' post='1366199' date='Sep 8 2011, 11:36 AM']top marks for ACS.. I got my moulds (plugs) from them. Friendly and efficient, but do check around for prices, I've seen variations of £50 or more for the same gear[/quote]