Dave Tipping

I've used one a few times and it works fine .. mainly because I had been playing the songs for years in an open key and couldn't be arsed learning them in a different position (for one off stand in gigs). If it was a permanent song on a set list I'd put the work in.

Why not just use one cab, turn your amp down and give them what they want? Are you really considering buying a new amp for one acoustic night?

I'm really liking Kc roberts and the live revolution at the mo .. mainly as I've recently joined a similar band doing similar material. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eC0is3_--M"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eC0is3_--M[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyUM24qVJxw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyUM24qVJxw[/url]

[quote name='MarshallBTB' timestamp='1343169381' post='1746632'] It does sound hollow, I really noticed the hollow feeling the moment I picked it up to be honest. Although sound wise, I get what I want from it so I can't really complain too much! [/quote] I was perfectly happy with the sound from my Laney cab .. I was shocked when i opened it up to see NO dampening or bracing ... it's def. improved the clarity of the cab. I've not been looking at other cabs since, which isn't like me! [quote name='Faithless' timestamp='1343169636' post='1746636'] And what is that you mean by bracing the cab? Do you mean putting some acoustic material as a pad in the cab? [/quote] [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/179802-i-finally-got-around-to-dampening-bracing-my-laney-cab/page__p__1714331__hl__bracing__fromsearch__1#entry1714331"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/179802-i-finally-got-around-to-dampening-bracing-my-laney-cab/page__p__1714331__hl__bracing__fromsearch__1#entry1714331[/url] - That is what I mean by bracing / lining the cab. it looks a bit mental .. but it only took an hour or so and cost around £30.

[quote name='Chrismanbass' timestamp='1343131719' post='1745712'] and one more [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa-CTc_LZ2A&feature=share[/media] [/quote] If you are still in this band .. you really need to lose that bloke singer. He has a very punchable face, I mean I probably do as well .. but I play bass, stand at the back and usually wear a hat to hide half of it. His dad dancing is woeful .. it actually distracted me from perving on the two girls.

[quote name='MarshallBTB' timestamp='1343161811' post='1746488'] Mine will be pulled apart after practise tonight, will put some photos up later! [/quote] Cool ... I was honestly really surprised at the difference this made to the sound. Have you given the cab a good knock? This was something I noticed before bracing my laney cab when I hit it with the bottom of my fist (not the knuckles) .. it sounded very hollow and quite a deep thud sound. Now braced and lined my cab sounds silent when you do the same.

Yes .. but I practice a lot with my bass unplugged, not as daft an idea as it sounds .. it really teaches you to hit the strings properly and cleanly. I can get a lot of different sounds out of my bass 'naturally' by adjusting my playing technique. Many amps I have owned in the past have frustrated me as the difference in technique doesn't come through. I find with the terror bass I am getting out exactly what I am putting in. Obviously the tone controls on the instrument and amp can colour it to an extent, however I find the range of tones I can get out of my bass through the amp with altering technique ..and sometimes playing with compression and tone settings is practically infinite. Those who complain that the amp has "one sound" clearly have one playing style and rely on tone controls / effects to alter their sound ... both of which are perfectly acceptable, just not my style.

If it's anything like my cheap Laney cab it'll have no bracing or dampening .. an afternoons worth of glueing in dowels and covering internally with wadding transformed my laney cab. Has anybody had a peak inside one of these cabs yet?

[quote name='RandomBass' timestamp='1343118326' post='1745336']How do you know what your bass sounds like? [/quote] By not plugging it into anything and listening. Usually best done late at night once most people have gone to bed .. which happens to be when I practice the most.

[quote name='mushers' timestamp='1341696215' post='1723021']i was then reminiscing about my teenage years with the Kays cataloge when !!!!!! [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Topshop-Moto-Khaki-canvas-look-jumpsuit-playsuit-short-size-12-/110882704742?pt=UK_Women_s_Jumpsuits_Playsuits&hash=item19d11fcd66"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item19d11fcd66[/url] is that a shadow or did she have a little accident [/quote] classic!

[quote name='RandomBass' timestamp='1342784281' post='1740853']my ABM is better in every respect except weight, in my opinion. This current issue im having hasnt helped either. [/quote] IME you missed out size, design, VOLUME and tone from that list! I have used umpteen ABM 500's and never managed to get a good sound .. or a very loud signal out of one with a variety of cabs at a variety of venues / stages. My first amp was an old Ampeg V4-b so perhaps I was spoiled early on .. the Orange amp makes my bass sound like My bass .. If I change the way I play my bass it completely changes the sound coming out of the amp .. you don't really get more versatile than that IMO.

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RIVER-ISLAND-SIZE-8-PRETTY-BANDEAU-PARTY-DRESS-METALIC-YELLOW-SWEET-/110893540084?pt=UK_Women_s_Dresses&hash=item19d1c522f4#ht_2997wt_808"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RIVER-ISLAND-SIZE-8-PRETTY-BANDEAU-PARTY-DRESS-METALIC-YELLOW-SWEET-/110893540084?pt=UK_Women_s_Dresses&hash=item19d1c522f4#ht_2997wt_808[/url] yep .. pretty tiny (and a little flat). I'm with Chris Horton on this one though! I'd def. take a punt on this for a laugh ... might even be able to put a smile on her face.

why would anybody measure action off the board? (unless it was a fretless)

Just checked my P and the E is a bit less than 2mm .. maybe 1.8? If you gie it laldy you get a bit of buzz, however it sounds SO much better if you don't! With heavy guage strings and heavy pick playing i've had it at around 3mm without any issues.

[quote name='LawrenceH' timestamp='1340626858' post='1707170'] Looks great by the way! Can I ask what you've used for piping? [/quote] It was basically this stuff [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WHITE-VINYL-PVC-PIPING-WELT-WELTING-1-8-3mm-/360391341980?_trksid=m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D172284875129366402&_qi=RTM1084479#ht_500wt_717"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WHITE-VINYL-PVC-PIPING-WELT-WELTING-1-8-3mm-/360391341980?_trksid=m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D172284875129366402&_qi=RTM1084479#ht_500wt_717[/url] I got it from a boating place in the uk .. can't find them on ebay now?

One final thing I would add is .. next time I buy a cab (as well as trying it out) I'm going to give the sides of it a good knock! It's pretty obviously really .. but before if you knocked on the cab it sounded pretty hollow (if that makes sence?) .. and produced quite a low sounding knock. Now it sounds solid with a high pitched knock.

[url="http://www.dunelm-mill.com/shop/270g-wadding-material-51553"]http://www.dunelm-mill.com/shop/270g-wadding-material-51553[/url] ... here is the exact stuff I bought. I was going to get 2 meters but there was a really badly cut end and the guy in the store was really sound and gave me more or less 2 meters for the price of 1 .. turns out 1 meter would have probably been enough!

Bill, Thank you so much for the image you posted in my previous post regarding using 25mm dowel for the bracing .. I'd never have thought of that and probably used something far heavier and less effective. You were absolutely spot on. [quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1340523804' post='1705480'] May I ask what exactly the wadding you bought is ? What is it actually made for ? Is it the sort of thing that is generally available in B & Q ? [/quote] I bought it from Dunelm mill .. which amongst other things is an fabric shop. The material is called "wadding" in the UK .. and what I bought was 270g wadding .. it's roughly 40-50 mm thick (depending on how bunched up it is!). You can get it on ebay? .. not sure if you would get it in b+q? I avoid that place like the plague!

Cheers for the compliments lads, had a good play with it today and it's pretty incredible the improvement. It was a great cab for the punk / rock covers band I was in .. now I'm playing more funk / jazz and I was concerned it would be too flabby .. not anymore. couldn't be happier with my sound .. just need to work on my playing now!

Following some very helpful advice from Bill FM and others on a previous post of mine I finally got around to adding a little bracing and dampening to my laney cab. Popped to dunelm mill and picked up a big slab of 270g (I think) wadding for about £4 .. then popped to wickes and bought 2x 2.4m lenghts of 25mm dowel, some spray on carpet adhesive and some wood glue .. all in around £26. As you can see the stock cab is completely un-braced and has no dampening. Started off cutting up the dowels and glueing them in place .. this really was easy and took far less time than I had expected. Next I roughly cut out pieces of the wadding the right size .. cut a few slits in them to allow them to be fitted around the dowels .. I then sprayed the wood with the adhesive and stuck the pieces in. These image just shows the last job I did to the cab which was to remove the stupidly heavy metal grille and replace it with a light weight timber frame and some fender(ish) grille cloth And here is a previous photo of my little rig altogether.. I think this may have been the best £30 I have ever spent on improving my sound! It has seriously improved the clarity of the cab considerably. The additional weight is hardly anything (far less than the heavy laney grille I replaced but the cab actually feels a lot more solid. It could be partly psychological (as I know it is more solid) but there is no doubt the cab sounds a lot better than before. Considering the cab wasn't bad to start with .. I'm a pretty happy bunny

[quote name='Ben Jamin' timestamp='1336748839' post='1650447'] .. he even pointed me in the direction of the Orange Terror Bass 500! [/quote] Pretty glad I didn't wait for this now! It's a shame though, hopefully they will get round to making some they'd sell by the bucket load.

[quote name='grunge666' timestamp='1340398797' post='1704159'] Looks like Orange may have sorted the valve issue out. I got mine yesterday, had a sneaky peek and it's got JJ's in it! [/quote] ha ha .. that's great news. The stock ones on mine were fine, but the amount of mixed reviews was making me think there could be quite a variation. How you finding it so far? Must be HUGE through your super twelve!

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1332342288' post='1586960'] 42 [/quote] .. I just noticed this! Classic. about time I did this work to my cab eh!