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Another update - some pics of the neck glued up. Its REAL! I was expecting there to be slightly more wenge but there's nothing wrong with a lot of stiff maple. [attachment=4618:Neck_1.jpg][attachment=4619:Neck_2.jpg]

or they could make it out of garlic bread?

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' post='113543' date='Jan 4 2008, 02:21 PM']That would have to be a peak reading. There are no twelve inch drivers capable of that level broadband averaged. Twelves do exist that have 100dB sensitivity (making a pair 103dB), even a bit more, but they only achieve that sensitivity above 200 Hz or so. Below 100Hz, where it counts, 98dB is the practical limit in a direct radiator cabinet.[/quote] In terms of my experience of listening to the two, I would agree that the Neo212 has a distinctive response. Its certainly less even sounding than one Acme (which was quite happy being powered by 400w and sounded very good). There's definitely a mid hump with the Neo 212 (somewhere around 400-600Hz) and a touch of boominess, but that was at 'home' levels of volume. I couldn't say whether that character was due to the neo magnets, the cabinet design, the speaker sensitivity through the frequency range or ambient acoustics though. Probably a combination of them all I expect. I'll see how the neo 212 shapes up at rehearsal this weekend, 3dB here or there probably means very little on stage.

[quote name='alexclaber' post='113403' date='Jan 4 2008, 10:24 AM']A pair of Low-B2s are ~96dB. A typical 2x12" is ~98dB. However, based on the EBS cabs I've heard I'd expect a sensitivity peak in the high midrange plus a very high sensitivity tweeter which would make it sound more than 2dB louder. Lowpass the two rigs at 500Hz and you'd hear little difference in output. Lowpass the two rigs at 200Hz and the Acmes would probably be louder. Lowpass the rigs at 100Hz and the Acmes would be significantly louder. Alex[/quote] I haven't measured the B2's myself but the blurb on the Acme site says a B2 is about 93dB. EBS rate their 212 at 103dB. I was content to go with those figures for the sake of a purchasing decision. When I ran the Acme's with the amp, the lows were considerably more distorted to my ears but I don't have the inclination to lowpass the cabs, thats not how I use them. Still liked the sound the Acme's made a lot and in other circumstances I would have kept them but didn't want to tailor my setup around the speakers. I wanted speakers to match the amp.

It was me who made the original comment and I was going by my experiences of comparing my Acme B2's to my EBS 212 with a sensitivity difference of about 10dB. There was definitely a difference in volume and a marked improvement in performance at band rehearsal volumes. When I used the B2's with my 140w Burman heads the amp sounded like it was putting out about a quarter of the power. I have learned that sensitive cabs are more versatile in allowing me to satisfactorily use them with amps with a wider range of power ratings.

[quote name='Hit&Run' post='113344' date='Jan 4 2008, 07:42 AM']It was off ebay so hopefully I've got some form of 'buyer protection' (I used paypal).[/quote] Protection don't mean squat if the seller operates without a credit card and has shifted the money out of their paypal account before you lodge your claim and 'does a runner'. I'm still waiting for £70 still owed by a PC seller who couldn't tell the difference between an AMD CPU model number and its actual rated speed. Don't think I'll be seeing that money again. There are some horror stories about pretty much every courier from what I've seen of people's experiences. I think it boils down to the bloke who is on your round basically. When I get things express shipped by Fedex on my account, often items come through having been passed by HM Customs and Extortion without duty or VAT charged. The express shipping is extra but it has saved me a tidy sum on the big ticket items like my Smith fretless. I can also ask the seller to ship Fedex on my account number and that way I can avoid any 'extras'.

I think their Ebay guy needs a Ebay management course? and then perhaps a second one about flogging a dead horse. Ebay must think he's Christmas with the fee's he's been coughing up on this auction.

I bet its going to require a mortgage to own too Mark Bass do a tube head - nice blend of old and modern technology as well but it costs well over £2k.

hey mike you seem to be a child of the 70's if your influences are any indication?

I did 6, not helped by the MD of my former band walking out in March, and the band reforming into a new one and not getting a keyboardist until July. However we've fallen on our feet since September and have set up 25 slots for 2008 with 19 already filled. We're all comfortable with that plus we get an extra £100 or more a gig above and beyond our base rate for slots #25-30.

[quote name='dlloyd' post='57507' date='Sep 8 2007, 07:12 PM']When I was your age, I'd just bought a Westone Spectrum II.[/quote] SNAP! I had a Westone Spectrum II when I was 18 and didn't get my Jaydee Supernatural MK until I was 20. Sweet jesus, some of you guys are seriously lucky, [b]even [/b]if you work to afford the gear. I couldn't get a decent paying job where I lived to fund some of that sort of stuff even if bust my balls. Good on ya

[list] [*]Learned the importance of sensitivity in cabs and how much quieter a 93dB cab sounds in comparison to a 103dB cab. [*]Learned the importance of understanding what the presence of punters will to to your onstage sound in tiny venues [*]Became a recent convert to neo cabs AND p-basses (will wonders never cease?) [*]Learned that it's possible for a neck thru and bolt on necked bass to sound very similar but the means by which this is achieved can often be radically different. [*]Learned the im anticipation portance of [/list] Reflected on the fact that there are many luthiers/CEO's of manufacturers out there whose interpersonal skills leave a lot to be desired. Yet strangely they're still in business...

welcome Sweet set up you have!

[quote name='Cantdosleepy' post='112167' date='Jan 2 2008, 11:08 AM']To be honest I probably will never attempt to learn the big names that are thrown around on this forum. I wouldn't attempt to learn any artist that slaps or pops, any speed freaks, any jazz masters. Not the sort of music I like to listen to or play. I know there's the argument 'you might learn something anyway'. I think that line of reasoning is true. Had I but world enough, and time, I'd probably try and learn that stuff. But as it is there's more than a lifetime's music out there that I already adore and skills that I covet more drastically. Why learn to slap on the chance I'll develop a taste for it when I still can't play my favourite bands' songs / skateboard / cook as awesomely as I'd like?[/quote] Its about what motivates you at the end of the day, innit?

[quote name='jammie17' post='111702' date='Jan 1 2008, 01:50 AM']Have to disagree with you here. No flames please, but I have been playing for over 35 years (on and off)...saw the intro to "slap" by the granddaddy himself, Larry Graham.[/quote] Larry who? [quote name='jammie17' post='111702' date='Jan 1 2008, 01:50 AM']And the "mids" have become so overrated as of the last 15-20 years. I can't, don't want to remember the concerts or bars I have been to that all you hear from the bassist is the "mids".[/quote] Dear boy, we're talking about [b]on stage monitoring[/b] so you need to listen to the BASS AMP, not the PA Any decent sound man will tell you mids (250-800Hz) are critical to hearing the pitch and note dynamics. Although to give Larry credit, 35 years ago mids hadn't been invented for bass and they were still trying to figure out how to play a bass guitar like a bass guitar [quote name='jammie17' post='111702' date='Jan 1 2008, 01:50 AM']I am a BASSIST. I play the LOW part of the music spectrum. I can FEEL it, HEAR it, sometimes, TOUCH it. Mids, to me, on many recordings as well as live performances sound hollow and woody. Guys, play the BASS! Feel the BASS. Live the BASS. Mids are for kids!![/quote] So what did anyone say that made you think lows were being cut out? Sounds like you got yourself a bit excited for no reason. Did you read the thread properly? Typing "I like Larry Graham's slap sound" would have probably made your point also.

[quote name='The Burpster' post='111624' date='Dec 31 2007, 08:47 PM']I know theres a couple of Valvophiles on here and I'll never be one of them, but a warm glowing valve is a wonderful thing to behold......[/quote] Nothing beats the smell of a warm tube amp, its nearly like the smell of a warm cat...

[quote name='Machines' post='111598' date='Dec 31 2007, 07:15 PM']Nicely done - looks lovely. That neck is gorgeous.. Looks like a pre 96 ?[/quote] The bridge isn't offset and still has mute pad springs so I'd put money on it being probably late 80's or early 90's. Not sure when the 3 band eq was introduced though. Whats the serial, if you don't mind me asking Legion?

[quote name='Machines' post='111590' date='Dec 31 2007, 06:53 PM']Just went for a bash on my ABM - the valve circuit has ceased to function ! The further up I turn the knob, the quieter the signal becomes (since it's a hybrid circuit). I did the best I could muster by taking it out, looking at it sternly and putting it back in, but alas it was the same. Does that just sound a like a replacement valve is needed ?[/quote] If the valve does anything other than gently glow orange when the amp is switched on, then its likely that it has gone in some manner. Can you check it in a darkened room? 12AX7's aren't too expensive thankfully.

Sounds to me like the bass had been kept in a damp place and the moisture had softened the paint and corroded the frets/strings - bit of a risky buy! Glad its turned out OK though. All sorts of warpage could have been encountered.

[quote name='bleedproof' post='111461' date='Dec 31 2007, 01:19 PM']The EA iamp 800 will put 800 into 4ohms and 1000 into 2... so it depends on what the cabs are! Stu[/quote] Well the Acme B2's need ideally 4-500w into each cab at 4ohms as a minimum and you can probably put up to twice that into them if you need to. Huge sounding, relatively even response (can be used as PA cabs) and nicely defined low end for 2x10's, they probably won't sound quite as loud as your Epi though if you normally run the rig at full tit. Given the price I've put them up at in the Gallery, you could easily purchase them as a back up and sell them on for what you've paid if it doesn't work out. The only reason I'm selling is that my Trace couldn't power both sufficiently and I already have a GK rig so a third rig was unnecessary if the cabs could sell. I tend to run my basses flat for slap, it saves on faff when switching from slap to fingerstyle and back.