Jono Bolton

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fender-Precision-Jazz-Special-Bass-Limited-Edition_W0QQitemZ320248936079QQihZ011QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]Red P Bass - £750[/url]

[quote name='Maine' post='191926' date='May 4 2008, 11:28 PM']Hmm. Do either of those suggestions include places to buy them new? That's what the post was asking (and I'm interested too...) :-)[/quote] Actually he said he'd been checking out the second hand market but would be willing to buy new, so he didn't actually specify. I see no need to buy new, especially with MIM stuff. By buying it you cut the resale value down to about £200 for a stock bass anyway, and you can get some decent stuff second hand. You run a bit of a risk by buying from the likes of ebay if you can't try it first, but there's just the same chance that the shop will send out a pig of an instrument that occasionally slip through Fender's QC. My Jazz was bought new, and my P was second hand and half the price of the the Jazz. I did have to clean it and set it up but that's worth it to save £150 on a new bass. And if you really need to buy a new bass, you can get new ones on ebay.

When I was about 8/9 we used to get music lessons at primary school from the two teachers of the local high school. We'd get the lessons once a week and they'd take it in turns to teach us (one one week, then the other one the next week). Anyway, one week the better teacher brought in a Jim Deacon P bass copy and a Park combo. The bass was about as tall as me and it took two of us to lift the amp. Everyone had a go on the bass but I was the only one that carried it on, spurred on by the fact that I'd be the only one playing it and have first dibs on it. I was given a stack of tabs and shown how to play the first one, which was 'Rock Around the Clock' and just worked my way through the rest. Considering I've been playing for about 12 years now, I really should be much better.

I definitely prefer that ESP to the Gibbo.

That headstock logo is brilliant

The Basschat Marketplace? Or ebay. I got mine for £200 posted, with a flightcase too.

Old Gibson EBs had them too I think. Agree with wotnwhy about the RIM headstocks, but not a fan of Ampeg ones.

[quote name='SJA' post='191543' date='May 4 2008, 12:55 PM']dunno how it can be "better" than an OLP when it doesn't have the right pickup.[/quote] It's probably not, but when people are trying to sell something that's not the genuine article on ebay they often make a point of berating licensed sopies (OLP/Squier/Epiphone etc.) in order to make theirs sound better. I'm amazed at the amount of listings I've seen for cheapo Precision or Jazz copies that are supposedly better than Squiers or even Mexican Fenders. Still, most of the time no one's really fooled. FWIW OLPs are really nice, and an MM2 or MM3'll probably be my next purchase.

Sexy? Really? Wouldn't fancy any splinters down there!

If the Blazer is anything to go by then this'll look great, looking forward to it! Although does the new scratchplate mean you got rid of the tort?

But why the zero fret? I was under the impression they were useless and that's why no one used them anymore.

[quote name='BassManKev' post='191387' date='May 3 2008, 11:34 PM'][url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300221136766&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=020"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...A:IT&ih=020[/url] cool or not cool? sexy or not sexy? overpriced or bang on? i cant decide they sounds great from what iv heard, and it seems like a rare beast, what do we think?[/quote] Cool Not sexy (because it's made of bits of wood) And overpriced apparently. I like it though, it's certainly not something you see every day.

The two 15" cabs are gonna sound nice and bassy.

I think most people would agree that black P basses should either have a black or tortoiseshell scratchplate. The latter would look cool with chrome bridge and pickup covers too. Unusually I quite like that headstock shape, most copies generally have an ugly take on the original Fender design (which as we all know was based on an early Bigsby/Merle Travis design). I'm looking forward to this.

I don't think I'm a snob. There's nothing special in my gear list, and my next purchase is probably going to be an OLP. Hopefully an MM3, but maybe an MM2 tuned BEAD. I'm firmly of the belief that a hardwear/pickup change on a lower end bass such as an OLP/Squier/Mexican Fender can give you a bloody good instrument, and you don't necessarily have to spend loads of money either.

[quote name='Motocross_nick' post='191381' date='May 3 2008, 10:57 PM']Sam Rivers - Limp Bizkit. very tasty lines i think, especially on the chocolate starfish & the hot dog flavoured water album[/quote] +1. Rearranged is a tasty line. Actually, everyone in the original LB lineup was ridiculously talented with the exception of that knuckle-dragging twat of a frontman.

Colin Greenwood of Radiohead. A lot of his lines are pretty simple but they're usually what makes the song, it's offset nicely against all the complicated w***ery going on.

[quote name='Sean' post='191078' date='May 3 2008, 09:32 AM']The J pup gives me the slap tone I need. The P just doesn't do it alone when slapping. For fingerstyle and pick stuff the J is rolled off.[/quote] I agree with that actually, I don't think I've ever seen someone playing slap on a Precision, but then that goes against the Ps simplicity. Slapping is unnecessary, much like additional pickups and active circuitry Fingers is all you need, although I do like the sound of a P with a pick.

I voted P. You only need the neck pickup on a Jazz anyway.

Yep, Mexican Classic 57 or a Japanese 57 RI would be your best bet. But you can only get them with a maple neck IIRC, which is a plus in my books.

[RANT MODE] I think stuff like EMA is pretty flawed, really. Your loan is based on your parents income, and how much the loans company reckons your parents should contribute towards your living expenses. I think it's unfair that parents should still have to pay for their kids once they've left home. However, the loan is based on recommended parental contribution, and some households have a lower income, so I think it's fair that their kids should be given a larger bursary/more EMA/whatever. It's the fact that it usually pissed away on nothing that bothers me. In an ideal world, rather than giving students a big loan, the student's residence should be registered as a student house, and all rent/bills are paid by the loans company, with a small monthly loan/bursary given to students for other living expenses. This way, you can make sure that the majority of what would have been given to a student is spent on utilities as opposed to the contents of the student union bar. Having finished uni, I now understand why people hate students. At the time I used to think that people were just being stereotypical, but in my house at least they are just layabouts, leaving everything til the last minute and not paying bills on time because cider comes first on their priorities list. It really pisses me off that I work full time, while they do nothing at all and live pretty comfortably. For example, I get paid in a week, and after rent, council tax and other necessary expenditures, I'll have about £200 to last me a month, but it'll be me paying everything on time while they complain that they don't have enough free money. Honestly, I've been waiting for one of my flatmates to pay her share of the gas bill for almost 2 months now, because she decided that buying a new bed was more important (it wasn't). She says she'll have the money on the 7th of May, but I won't hold my breath. [/rant mode]

[quote name='thedarxide' post='190366' date='May 2 2008, 11:13 AM']There's one one ebay too: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SG-BASS-GUITAR-60S-VINTAGE-JAPAN-PROJECT-PARTS-SPARES_W0QQitemZ250243612884QQihZ015QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SG-BASS-GUITAR-60S-V...1QQcmdZViewItem[/url] Never seen one with bevelled edges before.[/quote] Beat me to it!