cool, thats way cheaper than a pair of new mackies and better kit by a mile, now essex you say, im in essex too, near southend so any good for a meet and a look, the only issue I have is Ive got to sell 2 carlsbro gamma 1x12s and a phonic power mixer, but thats my problem and if my band will stump up the dosh then we could have a deal...but these are all my problems not yours, thanks for the reply, please feel free to pm me to go a little further. regards, Nigel.