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You could be right dude, just quoting from the Anderton's video, they could well be wrong.

That's technically a leg up on the Fodera's then, as they're all technically 'team built'...

Yup, I think they've aimed a little too high there. They've apparently got a GE150 coming too with the same engine and less buttons like the Ampero, wonder where that will sit price wise? Eude

I guess it's affordable by comparison, the full on custom Foderas where near $12,000 as far as I remember. I can accept they're cheaper, but still out of reach for most folks, and seriously niche too. I certainly wouldn't put my money down for one, but fair play to Janek for at least trying to make these things more accessible, whether he's achieved that I guess will pan out over time. Eude

Does anyone have any idea of the price point on these "affordable" versions? To get a bass like Henrik Linder, you'd need to cough up nearly $10,000! They do seem to be talking about two levels of these signature basses now, but I've never seen any commitment to pricing anywhere... Eude

https://metersmusic.com/blogs/news/see-us-at-namm-booth-5620

I think the B-Social may have merged into the Meters brand possibly? They have a few B-Social-esque bluetooth speakers on the go, so perhaps that's the daddy, or grandaddy? Eude

Ha ha, who knows. Lee's ill, and I guess there's SO much to cover they're just doing what they can. NAMMthrax claims many a victim every year, but not usually till the flight home, sadly though at the end of the day, the people this will reflect badly on the most is the manufacturers in these vids. Eude

To be fair, that guy standing in for Lee at Andertons definitely isn't the guy for the job. There's a video of him speaking to MarkBass about the new Bona basses and asks if the whole bass is made of Swamp Ash and goes on about how Swamp Ash can be heavy, if you're not a detail guy or an interview guy, you shouldn't be doing the interviews...

Just for info, the Mooer GE300 is going to be roughly £699 according to the Andertons guys >> That only make's it £50 shy of a proper Helix LT, right? Coming in April 2019. If I worked in sales at Line6, I'd be dropping the price of the Helix LT by £75 just before this came out... Eude

I do have less money, which is bringing me back to the Ampero, again...

There's a review of the Prog model up on BassTheWorld.com's YouTube channel >> If I'm honest, the bass sounds a little muddy tone wise to me expect when it's all DarkGlassie on the first section and during the tapping example, I guess I expected a much brighter sound from such a modern looking bass? It might be the BigRig pickups, I have heard a few folks find them a little muffled but they are meant to be a hum cancelling homage to the 51P... Eude

Oh, dear. I'll be using it at home almost exclusively, maybe for a bit of recording too. I also do have a couple of guitars, so having something guitar friendly would probably be useful. I'm swinging back to the Ampero again, I was hoping Zoom would've come along with something a little like that at NAMM but they only revised their lower end offerings... Confused... Eude

Not a bad price for a custom bass in the long run. I'd thoroughly recommend going for a shorter scale too, I play 31.5" now and I LOVE it!

That's the kind of issue I was worried about, what with the Ampero being design for guitar first, and the B3n being all about that bass, if you'll pardon the pun. Sound quality wise, do you find that the B3n is good enough?

Yup. I'm basically looking for a some decent effects for occasional use. A few reasonable amp and cab sims Distortion - good drive through to all out dirt Octaver Chorus Reverb AutoWah, although the ability to have regular Wah with an expression pedal is very desirable A Whammy type effect with an expression pedal would rock Aux in - Headphone out A DI would be nice but not a deal breaker I'm not massive concerned about insanely crystal clear reproductions of exisiting pedals, it just needs to work well with active bass and not be too fiddly. My main concerns with the Ampero is the price compared to the B3n, I could pick up a new B3n and an expression for less than 50% of the cost, and the fact that the Ampero is designed with Guitarists in mind first, with a smattering of bass specific content, is this similar to the Helix? I'm only really going to be using this for home use for a while, but I know from previous experience, Zoom stuff is extremely hard to kill even when gigged a lot... Eude

Still very much on the fence here, splash £350 on this, or just go for the Zoom B3n?...

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It does a bit, and they've really gone all out with great product design too. That Downtown thing needs a headphone jack and an aux in though 😉 Eude

I'll second that! I've been playing ACG's for a very long time now, 4s, 5s and 6s and I've never had them any longer than 33", and now all my ACGs are 31.5" scale, including 3 6s. I've played many 34", 35" basses and even a 36" bass that all had crappy B strings. The scale length is only a part of the equation, and if you over compensate for the other bits you can achieve a great low B at a shorter scale. Don't let anyone tell you that you have to have a 35" scale bass to have a good B, play the bass first, then make up your mind 😎 Eude

Fingers crossed!

Well Si very kindly went and had a look. He says the patch setup is pretty easy, the touch screen isn't as sensitive as hoped (perhaps its and old school capacitive one) but works well enough. His only concern is that you can't run parallel signals across the whole thing, so you're relying on the patches to have wet/dry control, which not all of them do. The only that would really be an issue is when using drive modes I expect, however there are two bass specific drives, both with wet/dry. There's loads of other guitar ones though, which have the ability to EQ, but it's not quite the same. Fear not though, I expect there will be more options with this stuff if you're plugged into a computer, and there's bound to be updates, patches, new effects etcs. Si also confirmed that you can order the effects as you wish, as you just assign them to "FX Bays". If you check the manual out >> http://www.hotoneaudio.com/downloads/manual/Ampero/MP-100(Ampero)_Online Manual_EN_V01_190119.pdf You can see the extent of the patches and sims, and what they're based on, it looks pretty good, better for guitarists obviously, but we don't have equality yet Looks to me that, much like everyone else doing similar things, you can set up sound patches, with everything you want and then recall them as you need them, or just use it more like a set of stomp boxes. I'm extremely close to pulling the trigger on one. They're up for preorder all over now, but I expect they will sell out fast... Eude

Shame, I don't really do breakfast. Would it do brunch?