LukeFRC

Utterly OT but my grandad gave me his oil stone the other week so turn of C19th in its old wooden box - only used it to sharpen a chisel but might rethink my technique following Christine’s OP

I think the key here is that when the keys and electric overplayed on their own it sounded great and improved a bit of a bland song - when they all did it it was awful. In church bands there is a problem of musicians wanting to show off and not having learned the ability to listen and leave space for others

this is really good - thanks @bubinga5

Could you not have used that template mouldthing you’ve got? Put it in there and the only gap between the body and the template would be the routing channel - or would that not put enough pressure on it?

RE: no spraybooth ive done several projects with rattle cans, but for my stingrayish building followed @Andyjr1515 s advice and used chestnut’s sanding sealer and melamine lacquer- I stained the body using water colour concentrated pigment and wiped on the finishes and achieved a reasonably good gloss- if I had used less I could have got a decent non gloss finish. Andy in his next build used some Osmo product that I ended up investigating and using their top oil for my kitchen work tops... that also is very very good stuff

The plane thing would be good - own one but it’s so merging I haven’t worked out yet. I say that s as someone who can turn my hand and pick up most everything to a mediocre level ... but this plane evades me!

thanks Christine. This should be pinned

.... and the FOH is coming from the DI box the tech uses...

Headphones for practice?

I think it’s true for all amps of all classes. It’s more a point that if you are comparing a 100w valve amp pushed to gentle distortion and with some nice musical compression it might very well sound louder than a 400w Markbass LM11 which will have comparative little distortion until it hits its limiter. I think I’m with Muzz - in an ideal world valve amps sound nice so we might all have them - then you want something solid state and you can get lighter and debatedly cheaper to run amps, and you know what people design in different electronic designs to get different sounds... some of them might have a valve in the preamp but that alone doesn’t mean much... some valve preamps are super clean, others designed to add some pleasing valve distortion... but I don’t think having a valve or not is the point - do you like the sound of your Mesa walkabout or do you like the sound of your thunderfunk? I don’t think hybrid or not is the determining factor. Actually - if I wanted a more portable version of a valve amp a Line6 Helix into a FRFR speaker would be another viable option.

I think that the phycoacoustic effects are the crux of the issue. All amplifiers are amplifying a signal - if all worked perfectly then there would be no difference between them - so the bits we are hearing that form a preference are the deficiencies from perfection. I think comparing like for like distortion levels is one of the key things- someone earlier compared a 300w valve ashdown with a solid state of the same preamp and said there wasn’t much difference between them as they weren’t pushing the valve power stage enough... if I took a solid state amp and added some pleasing distortion and some gentle compression like you would get in an all valve amp would you tell the difference? (Which I guess is part of the point of hybrid amps) silmiarly class D get a bad press as when turned up beyond the clean limits a class AB adds distortion (which make it seem louder) where as a class D just runs out of power. Hence “class D has no heft” is as much about the phycoacoustic effects as the amplification system.

In this test Are you measuring it to achieve the same level of distortion?

I like to think each bass has its own amp 😃

Thing is it’s not really killing rock and roll is it? It’s the logical next step on the question of lightweight high volume speakers and amps with more and more digital technology in it. Like when it came out a TC electronics RH450 or 750 footswutch and a set of speaker cabs wasn’t a million miles from what BigRedX spent on his rig .... and essentially they are doing the same thing... just one is a hell of a lot more limited than the other

Sheesh - so much so you didn’t even need to get your bass out it’s case

Like we kinda knew this anyway, but there’s a real art to acoustic instruments- I look on solid body builds and think “yeah I can do that” i look at this and go “wow” i guess also the difference between mass produced and hand crafted/tuned acoustic instruments must be way higher than that of solid body instruments.

Ha - I think some Warwick fanbois pricing ideas are similar to HP Wilfers!

What on earth happened to the pre 1990 wenge necked streamers being what you were after? 😛

That, and the video was really interested and explains the question I was going to ask about brace shape compared to the triangles in my acoustic. Im quite lucky, I sold a takamini acoustic I had and then missed it - found a eBay advert for an unbranded guitar local to me, and based on one photo of the binding and the quality of Ebony used in the fretboard bought it... when I went to pick it up it’s a beautiful hand built early Martin om clone made by someone semi famous - and sound absolutely beautiful - it’s resonant and alive - and that videos just told me why!