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The feedback does look good like. Go for it and if it goes breasts up PayPal cover you for items up to £500. You should look into the duty on imported goods like this though. I got severely burned on a bass from the States that the seller declared a value of £1000 on.

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1140937' date='Feb 25 2011, 10:47 AM']Already been bid on [/quote] Bummer. Email him?

Most people seem to spell it wrong anyway but yeah I'd be tempted to end it it before anyone bids.

I think my passive SUB sat better in a rock situation than my 'ray does. I lost count of the times folk would come up to (or onto) the stage to praise it. The guys in the band used to joke about how that bass got more action than they did.

[quote name='Silent Fly' post='1140193' date='Feb 24 2011, 05:50 PM']I probably should but I am not registered and I don't want to register for just one post. If you are registered please fell free to post the diagram.....[/quote] Haha it was just a joke mate. They'd rip you to shreds for suggesting such heresy.

Interesting mod. You should post it over on the EB forums.

I don't know if the W logo uses special ink (silver etc.) but all you'd have to do is scan one in, clean it up in photoshop (maybe vector it) print it onto white decal paper, trim it neatly, whack it on and lacquer it over. You could make it reversible by not sanding off the old logo but just paint over it in black or whatever. If you don't trust your trimming skills you might be able to get one of those vinyl logo companies to make you one. I think they use lasers.

Hmm it looks like it might be salvageable with a bit of work (if you have the skills to attempt it or the funds to get it repaired) but it might be more cost effective at the end of the day to just go for a new neck.

T'ain't much of a bargain. MusicMans start to depreciate quite badly the more non-original they get. It could be returned to original but considering there's a lump out of the body, this one takes the biscuit.

[quote name='MB1' post='1138815' date='Feb 23 2011, 04:54 PM']MB1. Next time he passes our house on his pushbike i'll let him know! [/quote]

[quote name='buff' post='1138857' date='Feb 23 2011, 05:16 PM']You got to feel sorry for Hooky though, because if he had any real talent. He would obviously be on here all the time [/quote]

[quote name='Jerry_B' post='1138835' date='Feb 23 2011, 05:05 PM']I wouldn't say that's reasonable at all. And what do you mean by 'basic'? Are you implying that the only good bass lines are fiddly ones? If so, then Hooky and quite a few other influential bass players (i.e. J J Burnel) have no value?[/quote] Nope I'm not saying that. I am categorically saying (not implying) that he isn't very good. I'm not saying that what he comes up with sometimes isn't bad though - I have even gone as far as paying him for his bother on occasions. He plays as good as he needs to. I've never seen any him evolve beyond that which he needs for his style of playing. Most of us have had to struggle to get better and better so we can deliver our best effort when we get our big break. Hooky achieved fame and fortune (???) early into his foray into music and stuck - perhaps by design, perhaps by reaching the zenith of his talent. Please take 10 seconds to understand what I'm saying rather than opposing it because you think I'm flaming the man.

I'm glad to oblige but can you be a bit more specific mate? Length ways incl. the neck heel cutout etc.?

[quote name='Skol303' post='1138666' date='Feb 23 2011, 03:06 PM']^ Spot on. I mean, if you're a lover of jazz or soft rock, then Peter Hook probably won't mean much to you. If, like me, you were weaned on acid house and the early 'Manchester Sound' then the likes of Hooky and Joy Division / New Order will be up there in your own personal Hall of Fame. I'm just wondering whether those of us who are questioning Joy Division's influence really know much about the band or the genres of music they clearly DID influence? No disrespect meant by that... I, for example, don't know the first thing about jazz so I wouldn't feel comfortable waxing lyrical about whether a particular jazz bassist was influential or not. If you can't hum the bassline to Blue Monday off the top of your head, for instance, then I'd argue you're probably not qualified to comment on the influence of New Order/JD! Again, no offence intended ;-)[/quote] LoL I hope that's not aimed at me too. I was weaned on John Peel and got my 1st JD album about 1980. I loosely followed NO although I never bought any of their stuff because it was too main-steam (hence their commercial success which some on here seem to find relevant to this conversation). My tastes in music are best described as varied but non-commercial and in most cases the heavier the better. For me, to say Hooky influenced modern bass guitar music is as digressive as saying Tony Heart influenced the YBAs. Yep they enjoyed him on the telly and never missed a show (hell, maybe Damien Hirst even sent a macaroni collage in ) but they went on to learn the trade and find themselves. It would be reasonable to assume that anyone who picked up a bass after listening to Hooky and stuck with it beyond his level (basic) actually had a talent for it and would have found other more profoundly influential influences on their voyage to finding themselves. [quote name='MB1' post='1138713' date='Feb 23 2011, 03:31 PM']MB1. He is LOCAL![/quote] Can you go knock on his door and tell him to come and sort this lot out then Martin.

[quote name='warwickhunt' post='1138721' date='Feb 23 2011, 03:39 PM']I've stuck stuff on eBay with no reserve starting at 99p... unfortunately that precludes me from putting it up in the sale section![/quote] Now all you need is a mate (from no particular bass guitar conversation type forum in particular ) to spontaneously and completely at random post a link for your auctions in the ebay discussion section. I suggest a title of "Wow [i]'xyz bass gear'[/i] for 99p!!!!" may reap dividends.

[quote name='Bassassin' post='1138445' date='Feb 23 2011, 12:28 PM']And in a flash of wild speculation - he appears! It's an oldie - early 80s Korean, I think. Probably Cort, who made the Hohner Pros a few years later. The round-end J pups & bogseat saddle bridges appear on a good few 80s Koreans (including the aforementioned Hondos & Encores), copied from Japanese designs common in the 70s. Nice abalone inlays by the looks of it - you see these on Hohner Ps from the same era. Jon.[/quote] Tadaah! Any thoughts on the control plate Jon? I quite like it.

I've seen those pups, bridge and knobs on Hondos (think I've seen an Encore with that bridge too). I'm sure I'd remember if I'd seen that control plate before but I don't. Looks like a job for Capt. Japcrap.

[quote name='icastle' post='1138020' date='Feb 23 2011, 01:14 AM']Tip 1 - Never test cables by licking them... [/quote] I'll try and remember that next time.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1137768' date='Feb 22 2011, 09:34 PM']Im a sparky .......[/quote] I never knew. Expect some annoying PM's about tips for wiring up my workshop/shed.

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='1137772' date='Feb 22 2011, 09:35 PM']Well they are made by little old ladies working for nothing arent they? [/quote] Are you sure you're not thinking about.....

[quote name='risingson' post='1137724' date='Feb 22 2011, 09:03 PM']....Not heard Peter Hook's solo stuff. If it's anything like Adam Clayton's solo album though then I'm surely in for a treat![/quote] I'm glad you got that.

[quote name='nick' post='1137722' date='Feb 22 2011, 09:02 PM']Think we probably would. New Order acheived most of their commercial success off their own backs, regardless of Curtis' suicide.[/quote] Yeah and Kelly Osbourne achieved most of her commercial success off her own back too.

[quote name='Clarky' post='1137699' date='Feb 22 2011, 08:47 PM']At the risk of turning this into some pseud-y argument over what is art, surely a good musician is someone who creates music that has the power to move you or stir some form of emotion. Joy Division did that (and still do) and Hooky was instrumental in that sound and the emotions they conveyed. Even the naysayers would (in many cases at least) have to agree that Hooky created some memorable bass lines - just listen to the clip of 24 hours I posted and tell me that is not a wonderful and original bass line that is central to a deeply moving song.[/quote] I wouldn't say he was a good musician... but what he has done in the past sometimes turned out ok despite it. If it wasn't for Ian Curtis would we even be having this conversation?

[quote name='risingson' post='1137666' date='Feb 22 2011, 08:34 PM']Poor choice of words on my behalf perhaps. I should have said 'two of the most recognisable bass parts of the last 30 years'. [/quote]Even then though... But I know what you mean. [quote name='risingson' post='1137666' date='Feb 22 2011, 08:34 PM'][b]The format of the bass line shouldn't really detract from the context of the argument which is that you know pretty much instantly what tune you're listening to.[/b] Musicianship for some bass players extends beyond the realms of their own instrument... some have even been known to embrace other means of analog instrumentation like the Moog in that tune. [b]Some of them even write their own songs[/b]!![/quote]As has been demonstraited that bassline isn't even his. Do you have any of Hooky's solo work btw? [quote name='risingson' post='1137666' date='Feb 22 2011, 08:34 PM']I couldn't describe him as a genius, but I'm not too sure what constitutes 'genius' anyway, the word gets bandied around too much nowadays. [b]What he is is an important figure in a period of music that has influenced a massive amount of bands, more so than a lot of people realise.[/b] Also, I should add that the last time I listened to Joy Division or New Order was a long time ago and I wouldn't claim to be their biggest fan, but I do appreciate their music and what they brought to the forefront. But it's all too easy to pawn someone like Peter Hook off as crap without actually standing back and seeing the bigger picture. Also, life is about being in the right place at the right time, that's how things end up happening. [/quote]Certainly more than I realise.