markstuk

For vocals? Yes, all the vocal effects are pretty damn impressive... I've not tried the harmoniser with bass yet though...

I use the Status half rounds on my S1 Fretless.. Brings the bass to life IMHO...

OK.. Had a play.... Vocal effects are top notch as you would expect.. On first pass though the guitar effects are thin and nasty (and noisy) on bass anyway.. This may be down to my idiot misconfiguration so I'll keep going.... One big whinge though... TC provide a lovely bit of firmware/patch management software that only allows you to backup/rename/delete patches but not their settings... I'm led to believe this is a TC "product management" decision as apparently editing patch settings is a high end thing...

In a moment of madness I've just pushed the button on one these.... If nothing else it looks like fun, and some of the effects may be useable.... If anyone is interested I'll post thoughts/noises ..... CHeers Mark

No probs.... I'll put the kettle on :-) [quote name='bassman2790' timestamp='1328205036' post='1523716'] Thanks, I'll PM you to make the necessary arrangements [/quote]

+111 [quote name='Thunderthumbs' timestamp='1328195765' post='1523447'] My God.....if that IS an early one, that's a steal!!! [/quote]

ohh.. That is nice......But still the thick end of 4k even with a bit of haggling... But that is nice.....

If you want to give one a go, you're welcome to try mine.. .. I'm about an hour away from you in Stratford upon Avon... MArk [quote name='bassman2790' timestamp='1328183697' post='1523124'] I think I need to speak to Alex [/quote]

Hi, your soundcloud link is borked .. :-) take the bass to a tech.. then when the truss rod snaps it's his problem :-)

I think it's knackered and you should sell it to me for a pound More seriously it's probably a combination of needing to adjust the truss rod and maybe raising the action.... If you've not done this before, get someone else who knows how to do it This is based on a surmise rather than listening to your clip which is some weird apple nonsense format...

When I had an issue with a damaged active speaker cab from Thomann, they tried the standard guff on me as well.. I then mentioned distance selling regulations the superceded any terms and conditions they might want to imply I accepted and then everything went smoothly in terms of a replacement...They also tried to argue that I should chase the post office up for compensation until I pointed out that the courier was their agent not mine... As a consumer you can't sign (or tick away) your rights - and things are very much biased in your favour in terms of buying new kit mail order via the distance selling regulations... Of course the supplier would like you to have a good experience, but it's also expensive to replace things long distance... And in any company there are people who want to sell things and other people who want to save money...

So I decided to stack my barefaced S12T on top of my EBS Proline 410, use my RH450 to drive the Barefaced cab and slave off the effects loop to drive a MB F500 into the Proline... It's loud... :-) And surprisingly quite pleasant...

Hi Leigh, Sure the usual suspects are, GB, TC. MB, Aguilar, EA and AI (if you can find one to try first in the UK, the Gallery is a bit of a trip for you) Although it you want dual inputs that will restrict your choice... I think you need to go and try some options first.. Everyone likes what they've got until they change it... Any Basschatters up your way willing to help out if the shops don't stock much? Cheers Mark [quote name='weeleigh' timestamp='1326056577' post='1491772'] Thanks Mark. I understand your point fully. I intend to look into the class D amps as well, trouble is I'm not that well up on the latest gear. I assume you mean stuff like Genz Benz, Aguilar, and the like? Cheers, Leigh. [/quote]

So what Big Yellow Storage depot are you using? And which bit exactly?

I suspect that's "total load" not what you can plug in to the extension, unless it bypasses the internal speaker... But feel free to experiment I'd personally drop an email to ashdown tech support...

Why do you think the internal speaker is 4 ohms? Have you put a meter across it? If you've not checked it's almost certainly 8 ohm and you'd want an 8 Ohm extension speaker to provide a total load of 4 ohms... What does the manual say? (check Ashdown web site)

Sure, However the point I was attempting to make was that 130W from your current combo is likely to be rather less loud than 450 W into your compact.... Unless you're desperate to lug an amp around that weighs more than your cab I would bite the entire bullet and check out the usual class D lightweight amp suspects.... But volume is just not about the amp.. 100W into a 97 db/1w/1m cab sounds as loud as 50W into a 100db/1w/1m cab... CHeers Mark [quote name='weeleigh' timestamp='1326020385' post='1491003'] Agreed. My concern is I have read the Tour 450 can be a bit underpowered. If that is the case I would prefer the 700, to give more headroom. The problem with the Peavey Combo is the weight. I'm looking for a lighter set up. I did check with Alex at Barefaced and he reckons the Tour 450 would be ok, but I was wanting to see if anyone here actually has a set up of either Tour 450 or 700 with a Barefaced Compact, to let me know what it is like. [/quote]

Is the peavey combo loud enough? If it is with 130W then I suspect 130W into a compact will be just as loud... Worth having a chat with Alex at Barefaced?

Pop up to Bass Direct near Warwick, have a chat with Mark and play with all the relevant GB/TC/MB whatever amps you can.. In actual fact I don't think any of them is going to disappoint you, but it's your call.

Sure, all of these things are subjective and my music room at home is not ideal acoustically, but I do have the luxury of having the ability to compare stuff side by side.. The bit I did not mention is that I have an EBS proline 410 as well - which efficiency wise sits in the same space as the BF S12T and is 4 ohms nominally as well. I also have a Sansamp Programmable BDDI to drive a QSC power amp.. That gives me a bunch of options to compare at my leisure as it were... The S12T sounds more articulate and open than the EBS, the EBS has a bit more warmth - although I think the EBS tweeter is a little shrill which makes it sound a little nasty unless the tweeter control is wound down... However it's always worth remembering that all amps appear to have different gain structures - The F500 is really loud at "4" but does not get much louder above that.. The RH450 is much more linear in terms of it's gain structure.. I've not done any comparisons with the TC cabs though, but it's hard to see a reason why they should be much more wonderful than any other decent cab of the same impedence and driver characteristics apart from marketing bullsh*t, although I'm always willing to be enlightened... I suppose voicing is the other alternative, but that would be pretty variable based on source and EQ... [quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1325876114' post='1489318'] When Dusty organised a mini-bash in his studio in Southend, we had the opportunity to try a TC450 through some TC cabs, and then A/B head and cabs with dave.c 's LH500 and Aguilar GS112s. I thought the results were quite surprising - the TC sounded fantastic and very loud through the TC cabs, and very puny in comparison when put through the Aggies - we had to crank it quite a bit to get back to the same volume. The LH500 sounded better through the Aggies and was slightly louder than through the TC cabs, although the difference wasn't as marked as it was with the TC450. I accept that this was a very subjective and unscientific test, so it fits right in with 95% of this thread ;-) [/quote]

My S12T is equally loud with my Markbass F500 and TC RH450.... I think this TC amps/cabs made in heaven thing is a little bit of a red herring..There is no magic involved in cab design, just driver performance, crossover design and the physics of a resonant box with/without holes in it..Of course understanding how to get the best out of a given set of factors/compromises is a skill, as well as understanding that there is no one single best design for all requirements. Given that the last figure I saw for TC212 efficiency when I was looking around was 99db/1w/1m and it's a rear ported cab suggests that it was designed for portability as it's main focus, rather than efficiency or presence.. The gain structures of the RH and F500 are quite different, but at full "still a nice noise" chat it's all much of a muchness.. And using one channel of my QSC PLX2402 (about 800W RMS) is pretty much the same, as was my HK bassbase 600... [quote name='brensabre79' timestamp='1325784377' post='1487680'] Yeah thats roughly where I was before I went for the GB. One of their product designers is on the 'American bass players who like to talk to each other' forum (can I say it?) and seems a pretty cool and knowledgeable dude. Having spoken with various people who know more than me, I decided the GB was the one for me, plus it was seriously reduced at bassdirect. I have not been disappointed. From what I discovered about the TC stuff, the TC amps work best with the TC cabs (which in turn work best with the TC amps). I think it goes along the lines of, the amps are nowhere near as powerful as their counterparts, but they are compressed and their speakers are very sensitive so the end result is a loudness equivalent to a more powerful amp driving a less sensitive speaker or something like that. Maybe a TC owner can enlighten me on that one! but I guess that means if you put a TC amp into ANOther speaker it won't be so loud and if you put ANOther amp into a TC speaker you're likely to overload it...? [/quote]

I play bass in two bands and keyboards in two more.. Currently gigging with a Roland VR700 and Yamaha ES8... And I also play flute... :-)