ialma Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) Very rare Ibanez AFFIRMA 105 in mint conditions. It's the first time I see one for sale on this forum. Extremely sought after (1000 copies only) Saman body & matching headstock with a beautiful wood grain. "This series was designed by Swiss luthier, Rolf Spuler. His design incorporates a neck that extends half-way through the body with individual bridges for each string. There is a thumb slot, a pearl/abalone AFR insignia, and a pearl block with Ibanez and the serial number inscriptions inlaid into the body, located between the single coil pickup and the bridge system. After some discussions and evaluations [s]I think 900£ could be a more correct starting price[/s], but I'm open to offers. Let's try with [s]800£[/s], 750£ or the equivalent in € Shipping NOT included. Ask for a quote (no more than 40£ to England though) Trades ? Yes, I'd love a Zon (+ cash on my side), but it's a kind of long shot I'm open to offers. Thank you [url="http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Electric+Bass/product/Ibanez/AFR-305/10/1"]http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews...ez/AFR-305/10/1[/url] Edited May 20, 2010 by ialma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotnwhy Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) I'll get the inevitable response out the way early: nah, i think it's only worth about a tenner. i'll buy it off you as for a serious response. lovely looking bass, what are the bits on the back control cavity cover? Edited February 19, 2010 by wotnwhy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matte_black Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 It's worth about £800. I had one many years ago... these basses have an awesome feel, nothing to share with the other Ibanez instruments. Spoombung was looking for an AFR but in 4 strings configuration, I fear. Anyway... very nice instrument! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-T-P Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Was this a forerunner to one of the Ergodyne basses? Seem to recall seeing a few Ibanez basses with a similar body shape but made from a composite resin type material and finished in kinda pastel colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ialma Posted February 19, 2010 Author Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) The Ergodyne series is similar but not identical because Rolf Spuler retained the rights on body shape and construction, so Ibanez went for a similar luthite body shape and a bolt on neck. Of course the AFR and the Ergodyne cannot be compared. Matte_black : I've seen recently these basses for sale for more than 1500€. I've been looking for this bass for ages before finding it. wotnwhy : the bits on the back control cavity cover control the single piezo pickups volumes. Previous owner lost the plastic cover. Edited February 19, 2010 by ialma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matte_black Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Here in Italy the 4 strings can be found for €750... anyway it's a lovely bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Its not so much what the bass is up for sale for. Generally the reason they are for sale is because people wont buy it for the price displayed. Its only worth as much as people are willing to pay for it. You want to look at Affirmas that have sold and take an average price from that. In this case i reckon £600 but thats my own guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matte_black Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 I'd like to stress that I only dare to give a price 'cause I thought the seller wanted to know how much the bass is worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ialma Posted February 19, 2010 Author Share Posted February 19, 2010 Shockwave : since it's not a very common instrument I have literally no references to state a price. I've never seen an Affirma sold either here or on Talkbass. If you have any other idea where I may look for a ballpark price, is more than welcome. Matte_black : thank you (nice basses you build, looks like we live only 250 km away) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Matte_black' post='750776' date='Feb 19 2010, 12:32 PM']It's worth about £800. I had one many years ago... these basses have an awesome feel, nothing to share with the other Ibanez instruments. Spoombung was looking for an AFR but in 4 strings configuration, I fear. Anyway... very nice instrument![/quote] [quote name='Shockwave' post='751040' date='Feb 19 2010, 03:56 PM']Its not so much what the bass is up for sale for. Generally the reason they are for sale is because people wont buy it for the price displayed. Its only worth as much as people are willing to pay for it. You want to look at Affirmas that have sold and take an average price from that. In this case i reckon £600 but thats my own guess.[/quote] Surely the OP has put a price on and I was under the impression that the rules are that PMs are appropriate if you disagree with the valuation! I've been looking for a 4 string version of one of these so it's unfortunately no good to me. Edited February 19, 2010 by warwickhunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 [quote name='warwickhunt' post='751135' date='Feb 19 2010, 05:16 PM']Surely the OP has put a price on and I was under the impression that the rules are that PMs are appropriate if you disagree with the valuation![/quote] He asked (publicly) for an opinion on his price I found it unreasonable (to me) and like others gave him a different figure. However, if someone posts a bass for sale with a solid price (Not asking for an opinion) and someone criticises the price in public then that could be a warnable offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walplayer Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 [quote name='Shockwave' post='751146' date='Feb 19 2010, 05:23 PM']He asked (publicly) for an opinion on his price I found it unreasonable (to me) and like others gave him a different figure. However, if someone posts a bass for sale with a solid price (Not asking for an opinion) and someone criticises the price in public then that could be a warnable offense.[/quote] Sold my 5 string afr 105 for £780 .They're a quality handmade instrument and light as a feather on a strap. The bit's on the control cavity are individual piezo gain controls. Good luck with the sale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ialma Posted February 19, 2010 Author Share Posted February 19, 2010 (edited) Thank you, no need to start a riot here I was sincerely asking for a price evaluation here and so every kind of comment has been more than welcome. Of course stating that the bass may be worth only 600£ when I asked for an evaluation is not disagreeing with my price tag. It could be nice to have comments from people who actually owned and/or sold a similar instrument, so thanks everyone for their suggestions, really. I think the tag price now is fairly more correct, and I'm always ready to discuss it. Walplayer : thank you. how long ago did you sell the AFR ? Edited February 19, 2010 by ialma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walplayer Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Walplayer : thank you. how long ago did you sell the AFR ? [/quote] Think about a year ago. The saman wood on mine was boring compared to yours though!! I also had a 304 that was excellent too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matte_black Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 Maybe the price for such a clean example is good. Anyway I owned one and loved how it looked and felt. Soundwise - it's a matter of taste. Good luck with the sale, these axes are IMHO the best stuff Ibanez ever made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 About 5 years ago I was watching one of these on Ebay - very badly listed, it was. It sold for about £120. And I missed it. [b]I MISSED IT.[/b] Jon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwickhunt Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 [quote name='Shockwave' post='751146' date='Feb 19 2010, 05:23 PM']He asked (publicly) for an opinion on his price I found it unreasonable (to me) and like others gave him a different figure. However, if someone posts a bass for sale with a solid price (Not asking for an opinion) and someone criticises the price in public then that could be a warnable offense.[/quote] Sorry but when I viewed the first post it HAS a fixed price on; I assume this was edited after comments were posted. Either way there is now a fixed price so we'll wish ialma good luck with his sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ialma Posted February 19, 2010 Author Share Posted February 19, 2010 If this can help you somehow, a four string was for sale in USA (not on TB) for 250$ not later than six months ago. Obviously the fool had no idea what he was selling. I wanted to buy it (beautiful grain also) but "nah man I don't ship, only local sale!" [quote name='Bassassin' post='751319' date='Feb 19 2010, 08:59 PM']About 5 years ago I was watching one of these on Ebay - very badly listed, it was. It sold for about £120. And I missed it. [b]I MISSED IT.[/b] Jon.[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoombung Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 [size=5]Wow, what a beauty[/size]! The AFR model is a design masterpiece and one of the most rare, collectable basses in bassdom... and I've never seen one for sale here before. Unfortunately, 5 strings means I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ialma Posted February 21, 2010 Author Share Posted February 21, 2010 Thanks! I love the wood grain (much better than the catalogue one!) which you can see here [url="http://www.oliver-pfaender.de/guitar/ibanezcatalogs/Ibanez_1991_AFR/"]http://www.oliver-pfaender.de/guitar/ibane...banez_1991_AFR/[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogame Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 If it's helpful for people over there, I had seen one like this (but fretless) available at NYC's Sam Ash shop a year ago, and it was something like $725 if I don't remember it wrong. Beautiful nice bass, top of the line made in Japan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ialma Posted February 22, 2010 Author Share Posted February 22, 2010 On the respected vintage guitars site Hendrixguitars [url="http://www.hendrixguitars.com/Hxbass.htm"]http://www.hendrixguitars.com/Hxbass.htm[/url] requested price for a mint conditions 5 strings is actually 1750€ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ialma Posted February 26, 2010 Author Share Posted February 26, 2010 The lack of interest for this bass is absolutely stunning... I really thought it would have gone in a breeze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjb Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 (edited) [quote name='ialma' post='758424' date='Feb 26 2010, 05:31 PM']The lack of interest for this bass is absolutely stunning... I really thought it would have gone in a breeze[/quote] I think modern shapes are having bit of a hard time at the moment, the current fashion in the UK is for the vintage look. On top of that the UK economy isn't the best right now so basses seem to be taking longer to shift. Looks like a great bass - I'm sure a buyer will turn up! Edited February 28, 2010 by rjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherairsoft Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Saw one go on eBay around the £500 marker a year or so ago... If this was that price I'd have it now! I think the valuation is about right for Its 'worth', but getting what an instrument is worth at the mo seems impossible... Bump for what looks to be a perfect example of a fantastic bass Shep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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