bartelby Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 [quote name='Bassassin' timestamp='1394745049' post='2394805'] Nice example but IMO a bit overpriced, £150-£175's probably fair enough for one o' them. J. [/quote] Yeah, I did wonder. My first ever bass was a black Deluxe CSB that cost me £75 in 1988 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 (edited) This is reasonably priced IMHO. They occasionally go for less than this, but the fretless Thunders have been selling well recently. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WESTONE-THUNDER-1-A-ACTIVE-FRETLESS-BASS-GUITAR-MATSUMOKU-/111299898832?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item19e9fdadd0"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item19e9fdadd0[/url] Edited March 14, 2014 by Annoying Twit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 So I just don't know. Is this ad the biggest collection of cynical bullsh!t ever put together in a single statement, or is the seller genuinely a pitifully deluded & ripped-off tragedeian who actually believes this spiel? [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261424997235"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261424997235[/url] The bass is a low-end Korean-made through-neck P copy from about 1980, commonly sold in the UK as a Satellite model 91. I'd like to give the seller the benefit of the doubt, but the fact you can see where a logo's been scraped off the headstock, and use of phrases such as "the Ibanez factory" tends to turn my cynicism dial up to 11. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) MIJ Aria here for £70: [url="http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/aria-pro-ii-bass-guitar/1052941623#photo-content"]http://www.gumtree.c...3#photo-content[/url] A Cardinal or something? Not clued up on these, obviously the paint job and the chopped off headstock devalue it but still cheap for parts or restoration. Edited March 17, 2014 by lemmywinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 [quote name='lemmywinks' timestamp='1395098018' post='2398799'] MIJ Aria here for £70: [url="http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/aria-pro-ii-bass-guitar/1052941623#photo-content"]http://www.gumtree.c...3#photo-content[/url] A Cardinal or something? Not clued up on these, obviously the paint job and the chopped off headstock devalue it but still cheap for parts or restoration. [/quote] I don't know what it looks like in real life, but from the picture I like the custom paint job. Pity about the headstock though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) I'm guessing that this is an early Korean made AP2. Is it? [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aria-Pro-II-bass-guitar-and-amp-/281289182830?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item417e244e6e"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item417e244e6e[/url] The more recent Arias with the slightly old-style headstock like the SB40 seem to have a thinner headstock (left to right), while this looks more like a Japanese era headstock. But, it looks too new to me to be Japanese. Edited March 19, 2014 by Annoying Twit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) I have just been looking at that and wondering if it was MIJ or Korean. The old Integras had that headstock but they also brought it back for some early 90s ones, not sure if they've used it again more recently. Some late 80s Integras had the chubby headstock (Billy Gould style) then they went for the slimmed down stubby version for the 90s Korean and modern Chinese ones. The top horn also got a bit longer and sleeker over the years too. I'd be up for bidding on an 80s MIJ Integra but I struggle keeping track of what to look for, they all seem to have different features! Aria seemingly also produced some oddballs and tiny production runs, check out the blogspot for a really rare natural through neck Korean Integra: [url="http://ariabasses.blogspot.co.uk/"]http://ariabasses.blogspot.co.uk/[/url] Edited March 19, 2014 by lemmywinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) There's a lot of older looking headstocks in there, of all different sorts. That 'Wariawick' bass looks a bit strange - but I like it Edited March 19, 2014 by Annoying Twit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I like it too, I desperately want that through-neck Integra though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaypup Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Hondo, same bridge as my Daion, strung-through body, very nice for £120! [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hondo-II-P-J-Electric-Bass-Guitar-Candy-Apple-Red-Metallic-Collectible-Nice-cond-/271411745512?pt=Guitar&hash=item3f316692e8"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hondo-II-P-J-Electric-Bass-Guitar-Candy-Apple-Red-Metallic-Collectible-Nice-cond-/271411745512?pt=Guitar&hash=item3f316692e8[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaypup Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Have I posted this Fernandes here before? Whatever, it's still GORGE! [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fernandes-Vintage-Neck-Through-Precision-Made-in-Japan-around-1980-Beautiful-/111299723539?pt=Guitar&hash=item19e9fb0113"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fernandes-Vintage-Neck-Through-Precision-Made-in-Japan-around-1980-Beautiful-/111299723539?pt=Guitar&hash=item19e9fb0113[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaypup Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Unlike this one, which is foul - [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Very-Rare-FERNANDES-RJB-CTM-SFG-Bass-guitar-Limited-MODEL-Surf-Green-/151252621759?pt=Guitar&hash=item23375bd9bf"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Very-Rare-FERNANDES-RJB-CTM-SFG-Bass-guitar-Limited-MODEL-Surf-Green-/151252621759?pt=Guitar&hash=item23375bd9bf[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Jap not-so-crap? A nice pointy headstock 80s Aria Pro [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aria-Pro-2-Active-Bass-Guitar-SLB-Series-1981-/161256645925?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item258ba52525"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aria-Pro-2-Active-Bass-Guitar-SLB-Series-1981-/161256645925?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item258ba52525[/url] Could go cheap. Any good? I imagine so, though not for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswareham Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Same body and headstock shape as my first bass, which was an Aria Pro II but would be 1990 vintage rather than 1981. Mine was passive, cost £225 new, and was awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 Not Jap, might or might not be crap - but definitely not the 1981 Matsumoku he'd like to think. Late 80s onward Korean Pointyhead. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotsy Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 http://www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/show/110364506/aria-pro-bass-guitar.html Apparently a 70's Aria pro for £65 ovno I don't know much about these but surely this is a bargain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 [quote name='Bassassin' timestamp='1395530224' post='2403512'] Not Jap, might or might not be crap - but definitely not the 1981 Matsumoku he'd like to think. Late 80s onward Korean Pointyhead. J. [/quote] Ah. It's a minefield out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodaxe Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 [quote name='wotsy' timestamp='1395539453' post='2403562'] [url="http://www.preloved.co.uk/adverts/show/110364506/aria-pro-bass-guitar.html"]http://www.preloved....ass-guitar.html[/url] Apparently a 70's Aria pro for £65 ovno I don't know much about these but surely this is a bargain? [/quote] Definitely not 70s, more 90s, but still cheap at the price. Possibly an [url=http://s227.photobucket.com/user/vintagejapanbass/media/Aria%20Pro%20Catalogs/1991%20Catalog/1991integra.jpg.html?sort=6&o=22]IGB-550[/url]. P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Everything about this screams that it isn't Matsumoku at all. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Columbus-Series-2-Sunburst-Electric-Bass-Guitar-MIJ-Matsumoko-Vintage-/161257731329?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item258bb5b501 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 [quote name='chaypup' timestamp='1395331495' post='2401254'] Have I posted this Fernandes here before? Whatever, it's still GORGE! [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fernandes-Vintage-Neck-Through-Precision-Made-in-Japan-around-1980-Beautiful-/111299723539?pt=Guitar&hash=item19e9fb0113"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item19e9fb0113[/url] [/quote] [quote name='chaypup' timestamp='1395331536' post='2401255'] Unlike this one, which is foul - [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Very-Rare-FERNANDES-RJB-CTM-SFG-Bass-guitar-Limited-MODEL-Surf-Green-/151252621759?pt=Guitar&hash=item23375bd9bf"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item23375bd9bf[/url] [/quote] I prefer the surf green one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted March 24, 2014 Author Share Posted March 24, 2014 [quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1395652799' post='2404619'] Everything about this screams that it isn't Matsumoku at all. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Columbus-Series-2-Sunburst-Electric-Bass-Guitar-MIJ-Matsumoko-Vintage-/161257731329?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item258bb5b501"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item258bb5b501[/url] [/quote] And you are quite correct. To me it screams "I'm Korean, I'm plywood and I'm from the early 80s!" Never seen an MIJ Columbus that looked remotely like a Matsumoku product. But I'm starting to think that in EbayLand "Matsumoku" has replaced "The Ibanez Factory" as the origin of anything remotely old & oriental. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) And this modern day ESP LTD bass is 'from the golden Fujigen era'. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ESP-LTD-D-6-NS-6-STRING-BASS-GUITAR-Thru-Neck-Active-EQ-Grover-Tuners-etc-/321362033320?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item4ad2ab7aa8"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item4ad2ab7aa8[/url] According to this chart: [url="http://www.music-trade.co.jp/etc.html"]http://www.music-trade.co.jp/etc.html[/url] ESP never had Fujigen make basses for them. Edit: Made in Indonesia. Edited March 26, 2014 by Annoying Twit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainRoberts Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Cool thread, I may be adding my jap jazz to the bay soon!:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoying Twit Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Maya J-bass. Looks almost new. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-1970s-Maya-Electric-Jazz-Bass-Guitar-Made-in-Japan-MIJ-/261436373612?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3cded27a6c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madshadows Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 [quote name='Annoying Twit' timestamp='1396041202' post='2409455'] Maya J-bass. Looks almost new. [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-1970s-Maya-Electric-Jazz-Bass-Guitar-Made-in-Japan-MIJ-/261436373612?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3cded27a6c"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3cded27a6c[/url] [/quote] That is lovely John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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