LukeFRC Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 That’s hardly an unusual connector, if it’s a dealbreaker I’m sure you could get you money back selling it on on here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 It is legal requirement for electrical goods being sold in the UK to come with a UK plug or adaptor. Get in touch with the seller and remind them of their obligations. Also for something that expensive I would expect it to come with the appropriate USB lead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I wouldn't expect it to come with a USB lead. I think a device has to come with all necessary leads, so a printer for instance has to come with a USB lead, unless it is wireless. The SY300 doesn't need a USB lead to operate, and I assume most people who have one will never use the USB lead, so its an option. But you are right about the adapter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirgefornovember Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I guess I'm just used to the Darkglass pedals (and the Source Audio C4) coming with all the necessary guff so I can use their editors on desktop straight away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I think it is different with things like the C4 and other synths (and other effects like the dwarf) in that you can't edit everything on the unit. There is nothing you can do in the sy300 editor that you can't do on the SY300 itself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 I contacted G4M about the euro plug, they said it was because it was sent from Germany, and the uk power supply will be with me in a day or so, not sure if they mean power supply or adaptor, but either a good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) I never ever bought a pedal with an USB socket that came with a cable, heck I don't even remember my midi keyboard with weighted keys coming with one. I would be surprised if I bought a pedal and it came with an USB cable. As much as I would be surprised by a new pair of shoes coming with shoe polish and a pair of socks included in the box. Edited December 11, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 The Line6 Helix comes with a USB cable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 59 minutes ago, BigRedX said: The Line6 Helix comes with a USB cable. Maybe wrong, but I'm not sure any of the Helix in the comparable price range to the SY-300 does though? Yours was a £1k+ product. I agree with @Woodinblack the more important thing is the right power supply - can't use it without one. For me, a USB cable costs a few quid and is not worth stressing about, particularly when you've just bagged a bargain? And the even more important thing is if the SY-300 is actually any good / going to be usable live? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 59 minutes ago, Al Krow said: Maybe wrong, but I'm not sure any of the Helix in the comparable price range to the SY-300 does though? Yours was a £1k+ product. Full price for an SY300 is £650 and for that I would expect a USB cable as well as the correct PSU for the country where it being sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, BigRedX said: Full price for an SY300 is £650 and for that I would expect a USB cable as well as the correct PSU for the country where it being sold. Yeah fair enough. Full price of a Helix Stomp XL is around £600. If that also comes with a USB cable, I'll concede the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Al Krow said: And the even more important thing is if the SY-300 is actually any good / going to be usable live? Well, yes and no, For me it is a bit of an issue due to the size. Soundwise, the sound is pretty much the same as the SY200, in that any patch you can do with the SY200 you can do with the SY300 as you would expect. The SY300 has a few more sounds you probably can't get on the SY200, but nothing completely out there. The real difference is in the level of control you have over it. The 300 you can control everything, and program anything. If there is a sound you want you can probably work it out and program it in the 300 without too much trouble, it is quite deep. however, if you aren't quite so fussy, the 200 you can go around until you find something you want and modify it to get close. The 300 is more versatile certainly but with that comes a layer of complication of more options to pick. Ultimately if I had paid £650 8 years ago I would have been blown away in that you can get a lot of what the GR55 gives you without the pickup, but since the SY1 and SY200, its not that much of a leap up, and at £650 now I think I would stick to the 200. However, below half the price of that it is an absolute bargain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Al Krow said: Yeah fair enough. Full price of a Helix Stomp XL is around £600. If that also comes with a USB cable, I'll concede the point. Also the only USB-A to USB-B cable I have is the one that came with the Helix. I have a load of other USB cables but no others with that particular combination of connectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Well, at £400 off the SY300 those people who somehow don't have about 50 of them already like me, can go down to poundland and get one In other news, neither my current mac or current PC laptop have a USB-A socket! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bam Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I've a lightly used one of these if anyone who wanted one lost out and didn't get one? Just make me an offer. For info they are light years ahead of sy1 and other pedals I've used. They also have a tuner, and loads of modelling pedals for drive, distortion, chorus, delay, fuzz etc etc on top of the synth sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bam Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 I've just put mine up (not from the recent sale) in the effects for sale section £250. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Just as a follow up, I complained to G4M that it didn't have a UK power supply or adapter, and they sent me a new genuine boss PSA power supply for it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pods Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 G4M did that to me with a Boss GP10 from Sweden i just used a travel plug adapter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 9 minutes ago, 2pods said: G4M did that to me with a Boss GP10 from Sweden i just used a travel plug adapter G4M and other retailers who do this are contravening UK consumer law regarding the sale of electrical equipment. If enough people complained maybe they would sort themselves out and start supplying equipment with the correct mains connectors as standard. IMO external PSUs with their tiny non-locking connectors and flimsy cables are bad enough for reliability without adding yet another poorly fitting adaptor to the equation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandro Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 On 06/01/2024 at 14:04, Woodinblack said: Just as a follow up, I complained to G4M that it didn't have a UK power supply or adapter, and they sent me a new genuine boss PSA power supply for it I have to give props to G4M though. Granted it would have been great if there were no issues in the first place, however its when things go a bit wonky you see how a retailer responds. I don't think I ever bought anything from G4M before, and off the bat there was a slight issue with my order. I replied to an email explaining, and the response was swift, as was the remediation. Then there was the issue with the power supply on the same order. Contacted them, got a response soon after and it was already being rectified. IIRC the power supply arrived the day after! I can't fault their responses, I would have no problem transacting with them again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2pods Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Quote IMO external PSUs with their tiny non-locking connectors and flimsy cables are bad enough for reliability without adding yet another poorly fitting adaptor to the equation. I agree, but as it was only to be used at home I didn't bother. If I had intended to gig with it, I would have chased them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 So literally half (23 so far and I'm as guilty as anyone, haha!) posts on this thread about the non UK PSU. And just two on whether it's actually a decent bit of kit and potentially usable live? 😂 Thanks to @Woodinblackat least for a decent review. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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