Jakester Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I haven't seen anything here about this - apologies if I'm just repeating old news! I found out yesterday that Eden Amps has become a brand of Gear4Music! I only found this out as I'd also only just discovered that Premier Percussion had been sold to G4M as well, and the press release also mentioned Eden. A quick gander at Wiki suggests that Marshall sold the brand to them last year. Looking at their website it appears there's a more streamlined range of products but haven't seen anything amazing so far. Doesn't immediately look like it's being driven down to a budget brand though. How long until we get Eden amps being sold as 'pre G4M' at a premium? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBod Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Very sad. The Eden Traveler was one of the best small gig amps. Gets hot, prone to crackly pots, all the volume is in the first third of the master etc etc but a great sound. Marshall hasn’t really done anything to match their original products. Hard to see what the new owner can do, I suspect it will be branded pedals and a micro head…this is what sells today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakester Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, BassBod said: Very sad. The Eden Traveler was one of the best small gig amps. Gets hot, prone to crackly pots, all the volume is in the first third of the master etc etc but a great sound. Marshall hasn’t really done anything to match their original products. Hard to see what the new owner can do, I suspect it will be branded pedals and a micro head…this is what sells today. Well, looking at what has been done to Premier, it does look very much 'business as usual' - no immediate attempt to cut products down (and indeed there's new 'premium' products having been launched, including a anniversary limited edition £1,499 snare drum), so hopefully it'll be the same with Eden. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I never understood why Marshall bought them, didn’t seem to do much with them, hopefully G4M will resurrect them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudewheresmybass Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Marshall had some superb bass ranges, yet never really managed to do well enough at it apparently. Such a shame. Never got why they bought eden either. Do they still own Natal percussion? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakester Posted October 26, 2022 Author Share Posted October 26, 2022 5 hours ago, dudewheresmybass said: Marshall had some superb bass ranges, yet never really managed to do well enough at it apparently. Such a shame. Never got why they bought eden either. Do they still own Natal percussion? Yep, they do, and doing rather well I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tut Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 I tried to get a replacement driver for my Eden 1x12 cab from G4M recently. I’ve got a feeling they’ve just bought up all the old stock and selling it off - could be wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario_buoninfante Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 just saw this few days ago too. an interesting news for sure. on bright side for now, on G4M there are few of their pedals sold for less than half their price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 It makes no sense for G4M to use Eden for its budget brand. I hope they do something good with it although I am not holding my breath. I remember some of those big Marshall bass amps of the past, when I was playing with two too many strings. They looked great. I wonder if Marsgall might be tempted to bring there own new range out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 The Marshall DBS range was great - albeit massively heavy cabs. Not sure why it never really took off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 25 minutes ago, Lozz196 said: The Marshall DBS range was great - albeit massively heavy cabs. Not sure why it never really took off. Marshall never really cracked the guitar amp maker amp tag, unlike say Mesa, In fact only Mesa that I can think of has a big foot in both camps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 17 hours ago, dudewheresmybass said: Marshall had some superb bass ranges, yet never really managed to do well enough at it apparently. But did they? Certainly Marshall never produced a bass amp any where near as good as the old Eden World Tour amps to establish them as a pukka top bass amp manufacturer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, peteb said: But did they? Certainly Marshall never produced a bass amp any where near as good as the old Eden World Tour amps to establish them as a pukka top bass amp manufacturer. Those DBS were serious amps, but Eden and others, were exotic being from the States. That is not to criticise Eden Amps in any way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chienmortbb said: Those DBS were serious amps, but Eden and others, were exotic being from the States. That is not to criticise Eden Amps in any way. The DBS amps were decent, but not great. Marshall actually got music shops to ask local gigging players to test them before they were released, so I got to use one before they went on sale. It was a perfectly good amp, but not noticeably better than the Hartke I was using at the time and certainly nowhere near as good as the Mesa mpulse I got not that long after! One of the problems that they had was that they never really caught the imagination of many pros, so you didn't see many of your typical session player / gigging pros using them on gigs, unlike the early Eden amps. Edited October 27, 2022 by peteb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 I still have never tried a proper World Tour head. I really enjoyed the Bass Pod Eden sim back in the day. At the right price used I would certainly consider one. In terms of the Marshall DBS amps, I liked them but they never appealed to me and I didn't think that they offered the flexibility of a Trace Elliot, Eden or Mesa or the 'cool factor' of Ampeg. However the VBA 400 was an absolute monster, if they had just downsized it to 200 watts it would have been a brilliant gigging amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 29 minutes ago, thodrik said: Ampeg Always look like someone built them in a garage with parts they had to hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudewheresmybass Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 The DBS series was a fantastic amp. The only drawback was the weight. They are the only amp I've used that didn't lose power when using a wah at volume. I tried Trace, Hartke and even the eden, but nothing touches the flexibility of tone and tweakability of the Marshall. The peak power alone of 4K w was unprecedented. The VBA is also another killer head, but heavy again. Used across stages in a variety of countries. I also know people that totally love the tones the jcm800 bass series created. I recall reading an interview with Geezer, who said he had a marshall rig that they took to the states, but forgot to change the voltage and fried them before he moved to ampeg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 26 minutes ago, dudewheresmybass said: The DBS series was a fantastic amp. The only drawback was the weight. They are the only amp I've used that didn't lose power when using a wah at volume. I tried Trace, Hartke and even the eden, but nothing touches the flexibility of tone and tweakability of the Marshall. The peak power alone of 4K w was unprecedented. The VBA is also another killer head, but heavy again. Used across stages in a variety of countries. I also know people that totally love the tones the jcm800 bass series created. I recall reading an interview with Geezer, who said he had a marshall rig that they took to the states, but forgot to change the voltage and fried them before he moved to ampeg You would not fry it going to the States, but might if you forgot to change the voltage back on return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudewheresmybass Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 33 minutes ago, Chienmortbb said: You would not fry it going to the States, but might if you forgot to change the voltage back on return. Good point However, it was a while back that i read it, but that was definitely the gist of his comment - they fried, so he changed supplier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Chienmortbb said: Always look like someone built them in a garage with parts they had to hand. I won’t dispute that, for me it is part of the charm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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