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Youtube close down MarloweDK's channel!


mistahbenn
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Due to copyright UT have shut him down, but fear not he still lives and funks on @ www.playbassnow.com

""Well, maybe its a little less dramatic but still very bad, read on…
ARGGGRRRR!! MY YOUTUBE ACCOUNT IS CLOSED!! ON COPYRIGHT ISSUES (my play-alongs), most of my videos were hosted there and are not available rigth now BUT DONT DISPAIR! I still have the original videos and will move all my “Lick of the day” and other tutorial videos to other video hosts, within the next few days i hope, starting with the most recent ones

Well i must admit that im in shock right now, my main claim to fame is abruptly closed down:-(

And im not able to open a new YT account, im a “persona non grata” as far as they are concerned

BUT PLEASE! THOSE OF YOU WITH AN YOUTUBE ACCOUNT PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD THAT MARLOWEDK AND PLAYBASSNOW.COM LIVES! , THANK YOU. And to those of you that have downloaded some of my videos in the past, you are more than welcome to upload them to Youtube, it would be of great support to me and a way to get people over here.""

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[quote name='EBS_freak' post='430620' date='Mar 10 2009, 03:46 PM']Typical.[/quote]
We had a thread on the PRS a while back. They don't seem to believe in encouraging young musicians to learn (and then going out to play tunes that will generate royalties). The tab sites seem to be under attack from the American equivalent, too. I thought MarloweDK embodied the whole internet ethos of helping out your fellow traveller on this planet. Still, we have to keep Elton John in flowers, don't we?

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[quote name='stevie' post='430632' date='Mar 10 2009, 04:02 PM']Perhaps the PRS will see reason and allow videos that are educational and non-profit making. What are the chances?[/quote]

It's not PRS that have blocked any videos.

YouTube have taken down the videos whilst in negotiations with PRS over the size of the royalties - it seems to be more a shot across PRS's bows in order to weaken their bargaining position.

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[quote name='Musky' post='430648' date='Mar 10 2009, 04:11 PM']It's not PRS that have blocked any videos.

YouTube have taken down the videos whilst in negotiations with PRS over the size of the royalties - it seems to be more a shot across PRS's bows in order to weaken their bargaining position.[/quote]
Aha, thanks for the update. I withdraw my comment in that case. Bit hasty there.

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That really sucks - I'm wondering what else will be removed - like solo bass (or any instrument) versions of pop songs etc - I think Marlowe is a great guy who's fantastic at sharing his enthusiasm and the sheer joy of being able to play a great bass line - he's a damn fine player too.

I think if there's anything good that may come out of this hopefully he'll get a lot of actual financial support to create a proper music video channel (i.e. better quality than YT).

I hope he sorts something out soon

M

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I got this email from PRS today -


Dear Member

You may have read the news stories this week about Google blocking access to 'premium' video content on YouTube in the UK as a result of their not agreeing a new licence with PRS for Music. Premium content appears to refer to music videos that are traditionally uploaded by record companies.

You may also have read that Google took this decision unilaterally, without any request from us to do so. Their licence with us had expired at the end of December 2008 and we were negotiating their new one. We do not usually ask anyone to remove content as long as good faith negotiations are taking place.

Immediately we heard news of Google's decision to pull content from YouTube, and that they were talking to the press about it, we issued our own press statement. We expressed our outrage, shock and disappointment on behalf of UK consumers and on behalf of you, our members that Google should take this action.

Google's decision must be seen as an attempt to influence commercial negotiation and the focus on 'premium' content as an attempt to cause disruption within the music industry again. This content may account for about 1% of YouTube music streams.

At the heart of Google's precipitous action is the going rate for music. This is the rate set by the UK Copyright Tribunal in 2007. The Tribunal is the ultimate and independent arbiter of copyright dispute. Digital service providers pay a fraction of a penny per stream to the creator of the music.

Most of the major digital service providers are licensed by PRS for Music. And just recently we have signed deals with Amazon, Beatport, Nokia Comes With Music and Qtrax.

YouTube has signed-up to licences in very few countries around the world - we were one of the few. They have never before taken down content unless they have been forced to do so by copyright holders. Meanwhile, in the UK, consumer streams of YouTube 'premium' content have risen by almost 300% in the last year alone (up from 75m streams a quarter to nearly 300m streams a quarter). In total, Google want to pay 50% less than they paid before for that usage. Google think they paid too much last time. But their music usage, charged at the going rate, suggests they were significantly underpaying.

A further delay to our negotiation has been that Google is, at present, not giving us the data we need to calculate correct royalty payments to you. We ask them to make returns on their music use in the same way that every other major licensee does in order that we can properly analyse it, charge the right fee and then pay the copyright owners we represent. If there's a stream of a track we don't control, Google won't pay us for that stream. Google would like to see our database in order to match it against theirs so they can calculate how much they owe us.

We look forward to continuing our negotiations with Google where we will be looking for them to pay an appropriate amount for the volume of music they use and the contribution that songwriters make to the success of their service.

In the meantime, please help us to help you. There are numerous Internet blogs hosting discussions on songwriter royalties. All too often, the voice of the composer and songwriter is lost in the midst of issues relating to the freedom of the Internet. Many blog posters misunderstand how royalties work and how you get paid. We should not forget that more than 90% of PRS for Music members receive less than £5,000 per year in royalties.

Wherever possible, please contribute fully to this online debate, putting the composer and songwriter point of view. Additionally, if you feel you could give your time, where needed, to talk or write to the media in support of PRS for Music and of the composer/songwriter community, please email us.

With best wishes


Steve Porter, Chief Executive, PRS for Music

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I got this from PRS today -

Dear Member

Google/YouTube update

Over the last few days, there has been a great deal of press coverage surrounding Google's decision to block access to 'premium' video content on YouTube. The press coverage is proving helpful in raising public awareness of the importance of royalties to the songwriter/composer community. Thank you for the many supportive comments you've been sending us on the issue.

Help us to help you - give us your opinions NOW

We're running an online PRS for Music member poll that is now live on our website.

We are asking four questions that require four straight answers - yes, or no. It will take you less than a minute to complete. Simply follow the link below, log-in to the site as usual and answer our questions. We'll use the results in our future media campaigning.

Answer our online poll

And remember the other ways you can help are:

1. Contribute to the numerous internet blogs (Google, Facebook, Guardian, BBC etc) that are hosting discussions on songwriter royalties, to put the composer and songwriter point of view forward.
2. Provide us with a quote we can publish on our website or in the media.
3. Give your time, where needed, to talk to or write to the media in support of PRS for Music on behalf of the songwriter / composer community

Your words of encouragement continue to be appreciated and we will, of course, keep you updated with developments.

With best wishes

Steve Porter
Chief Executive, PRS for Music


I answered the poll as follows:

Do you earn enough from the use of your music online?
[color="#00BFFF"]yes[/color]

I would be happy not to earn royalties from online sites like YouTube, because they promote my music so that I earn more from other uses eg live performance, paid downloads/CDs. Do you agree with this statement?
[color="#00BFFF"]yes[/color]

Would you be upset if your work was not showcased on YouTube?
[color="#00BFFF"]yes[/color]

Is it fair that the creative community should subsidise online music services until they can find a way to be profitable?
[color="#00BFFF"]no[/color]

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