fretmeister Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 37 minutes ago, Lozz196 said: Well Thomann just lost out on a sale. They have a few Lionels in stock so I enquired on the weight of two of them - approximately 5kg for each was the response. I very much doubt that, clearly a figure plucked out of the air, but if they can`t be bothered to sort out the actual weight for a £1600+ transaction then they can go and brew theirselves a cupoffukoff. They used to be happy to get something out of a box and weigh stuff, but now they don't. I suspect their new massive automated warehouse system would get in the way of wandering over to get one off a shelf. It's a shame but I kind of get it for them - they are probably warehousing hundreds of incoming basses a day. It would need a dedicated team to weight stuff on the way in and stick it on a site like smaller places can do. But it is also why I won't buy a bass from them anymore. 3 Quote
Aidan63 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 5kg would be the packed weight with gig bag, ie what is on their system for shipping weight, which probably explains the reply 4 Quote
chris_b Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, fretmeister said: . . . . I suspect their new massive automated warehouse system would get in the way of wandering over to get one off a shelf. Probably this, but with Thomann's buying power, in the music industry, they should be able to require the weight of the bass be included on the final check list. 1 Quote
dmccombe7 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Is each bass in a model range not all the same weight or do they have variations. Is it not listed on the Sandberg website. ? Have to admit i generally go to the company website first rather than ask a shop. Don't think i trust shops to give me a definitive answer. Dave Quote
Lozz196 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I’ve seen them range from 7.2lbs to 8lbs, and for me 7.5lbs would be my limit. The impetuous side of me is tempted to order one but then the faff of returning if too heavy brings me back to reality. 1 Quote
dmccombe7 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Lozz196 said: I’ve seen them range from 7.2lbs to 8lbs, and for me 7.5lbs would be my limit. The impetuous side of me is tempted to order one but then the faff of returning if too heavy brings me back to reality. I see where you're coming from now. That's left you with quite a narrow band to choose from. Is 2nd hand market a better option where the seller will weigh it before you buy sort of thing. 7.5ibs is quite a lightweight bass. Is it hollow bodied ? Hope you can find what you're looking for @Lozz196 Dave Quote
Lozz196 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Sadly the Lionel’s don’t pop up 2nd hand that often Dave. I think they’re alder, but as reduced body size that keeps the weight down a tad, rather than hollow bodied. 1 Quote
dmccombe7 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 16 minutes ago, Lozz196 said: Sadly the Lionel’s don’t pop up 2nd hand that often Dave. I think they’re alder, but as reduced body size that keeps the weight down a tad, rather than hollow bodied. Is a custom order direct to Sandberg out the question with a limit on the weight being an essential part of the order. ? Dave Quote
Lozz196 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, dmccombe7 said: Is a custom order direct to Sandberg out the question with a limit on the weight being an essential part of the order. ? Dave I’m way ahead of you on that point Dave, order already in (via Mark at Classic And Cool Guitars) for a Superlight Lionel but lead time is 2 years. So if I can get hold of one in the meantime would be great as even my JMJ Mustangs at just under 8lbs are getting a bit heavy, who knows where the back will be in 2 years. Quote
warwickhunt Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 45 minutes ago, dmccombe7 said: I see where you're coming from now. That's left you with quite a narrow band to choose from. Is 2nd hand market a better option where the seller will weigh it before you buy sort of thing. 7.5ibs is quite a lightweight bass. Is it hollow bodied ? Hope you can find what you're looking for @Lozz196 Dave I have 4 Sandbergs and just sold a Lionel... 7.5lb isn't that remarkable, I have a fretless Lionel that is just over 7lb. Quote
dmccombe7 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, warwickhunt said: I have 4 Sandbergs and just sold a Lionel... 7.5lb isn't that remarkable, I have a fretless Lionel that is just over 7lb. Think all but one of my basses (Yamaha BX-1) are over 8.5lbsup to high 9's. My Overwater Custom 6er fretless will probably be heavier but i'm usually sitting down when i play it. Dave Quote
dmccombe7 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 29 minutes ago, Lozz196 said: I’m way ahead of you on that point Dave, order already in (via Mark at Classic And Cool Guitars) for a Superlight Lionel but lead time is 2 years. So if I can get hold of one in the meantime would be great as even my JMJ Mustangs at just under 8lbs are getting a bit heavy, who knows where the back will be in 2 years. thats where i bought my VM4 from and he gave me a great deal on it when i just phoned to ask about it. He offered to drop the price for me without me even asking. I like them. Its one of my fav shops. Love browsing it even just to see what they've already sold. Dave 1 Quote
Ian McFly Posted 12 minutes ago Posted 12 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Lozz196 said: I’m way ahead of you on that point Dave, order already in (via Mark at Classic And Cool Guitars) for a Superlight Lionel but lead time is 2 years. So if I can get hold of one in the meantime would be great as even my JMJ Mustangs at just under 8lbs are getting a bit heavy, who knows where the back will be in 2 years. TWO. YEARS. When I ordered my last Sandberg like 12 years ago, the wait time was 6 months. Even back then, I thought it was ridiculous, I get they're popular, but I don't know, hire more people? Expand? But it is now TWO YEARS? Who in their right mind has the patience to wait that long? My interest for it would fizzle out after 6 months of waiting... Like, I've got a Warmoth body on order that should be here in 3 months and I've already lost patience haha... Quote
Lozz196 Posted 10 minutes ago Posted 10 minutes ago Yeah it’s a fair old time, just got to be patient - which is something I’m really not very good at. Quote
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