Cuzzie Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Agreed The bass should have a DI too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Yeah, the comp was pretty special and I don't recall the expensive versions coming out until the Standard was well received. They are diving in at a very high price for an overdrive pedal with zero pedigree. Makes Darkglass look cheap as chips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 They had both the TX and non TX versions from day one plus you could pick which TX to go for, their own or Lundhal. I think the high price is because of the rep they hav ebuilt up with the Cali range. Origin Effects are the pedigree as much as the product. A bold move indeed I agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Just now, krispn said: They had both the TX and non TX versions from day one plus you could pick which TX to go for, their own or Lundhal. I think the high price is because of the rep they hav ebuilt up with the Cali range. Origin Effects are the pedigree as much as the product. A bold move indeed I agree! I stand corrected. As an owner of a TX, you'd thought I'd know but there you go! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, knicknack said: @Kev Because we're in a world where people buy things 'cause the internet tells them to. A look through their facebook comments suggest at least 200 people who would've ordered this before even knowing what it was! Crazy... Thats why i have a Cali 76 that i dont use lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) @krispn was passing by a store in Denmark St (Laaandern) who perchance had the gubbins at the top of the picture (unlike the Yammy store, who still don't). Spotted this pedal and thought of you...didn't have time to try out. Maybe next time, although at £549 it's not something I'll be getting any time soon! 😄 Edited June 25, 2018 by Al Krow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 So it's the answer to the question: 'Can I get a Darkglass pedal, but not as pretty?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbass4k Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 They lose a lot of credibility for talking about the "valve rectifier" side and the "solid state rectifier" side. If there ain't a valve in it (which there isn't), then it has 2 solid state sides. Which is fine, but be honest about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Does that also mean that the Darkglass Microtubes stuff gets less Kudos because there are not mini tubes? Pretty sure it’s to differentiate between old American type amps and British ones and is thus a descriptive term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 @bobbass4k In addition it actually states its valve styled in its description , and I am sure for brevity says valve rectifier on one side and silicone on the other instead of valve styled and solid state.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbass4k Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 23 minutes ago, Cuzzie said: @bobbass4k In addition it actually states its valve styled in its description , and I am sure for brevity says valve rectifier on one side and silicone on the other instead of valve styled and solid state.... If are inclined toward pedantry, "Valve Rectifier" is 3 more letters than "Valve Styled" and the same length as "Valve Emulation", so brevity is perhaps not the principal agenda. Its just something that annoys me is all, so much of the boutique industry is built around an almost ubiquitous snake oil thesaurus that essentially exploits ignorance. But, 'twas ever thus, just annoys me. The microtubes name too yes ("Red Llama with some fancy EQing" probably didn't fit on the box). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 @bobbass4k completely get you on what you were saying and I was a little brief myself snatching messages at work so I meant they didn’t write ‘valve styled rectifier’ which would be longer. Anywho, I don’t like Mis-selling either, but they do very clearly state in their description of the pedal on the website that it is an all transistor based circuit with no valves at all, and quash any potential misnunderstandings. With regard to your point I suppose the same thing happens in rugby teams I find slightly annoying in I am sure there are Not many actual Sharks in Manchester nor have they found a lost species of Bear in Bristol unless they are counting me with a sore head after cider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbass4k Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Cuzzie said: @bobbass4k Anywho, I don’t like Mis-selling either, but they do very clearly state in their description of the pedal on the website that it is an all transistor based circuit with no valves at all, and quash any potential misnunderstandings. It's just an odd way to make the distinction that (I think) exploits misconceptions about electronics (Silicon = modern and harsh, Valves = warm and vintage). If you have one side labelled "Silicon Rectifier" and another side labelled something else when it also (almost certainly) also uses Silicon rectifiers, I find that deliberate. No harm though, they clearly know their market and I'm sure it'll sell great. 3 hours ago, Cuzzie said: With regard to your point I suppose the same thing happens in rugby teams I find slightly annoying in I am sure there are Not many actual Sharks in Manchester nor have they found a lost species of Bear in Bristol unless they are counting me with a sore head after cider Yes I'm sure the Microtubes name is just for vivid imagery and Mr. Darkglass would be livid if anybody bought the pedal because the name made them think it would make them sound like a tube amp... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 2 hours ago, bobbass4k said: It's just an odd way to make the distinction that (I think) exploits misconceptions about electronics (Silicon = modern and harsh, Valves = warm and vintage). If you have one side labelled "Silicon Rectifier" and another side labelled something else when it also (almost certainly) also uses Silicon rectifiers, I find that deliberate. No harm though, they clearly know their market and I'm sure it'll sell great. Yes I'm sure the Microtubes name is just for vivid imagery and Mr. Darkglass would be livid if anybody bought the pedal because the name made them think it would make them sound like a tube amp... It's an interesting discussion (well to me anyway!) you boys are touching on. You would hope that anyone looking to fork out £549 on a dirt pedal would be savvy enough not to be taken in by Origin's very loose terminology and if they weren't then they probably had more money than sense? I originally thought Origin were going for a cleaner Fender sound (Silicon) and warmer Marshall sound (Valve) with this pedal but would have been very aware they couldn't use those terms without getting their asses kicked in court! Must admit the fact that my DGM900 has got a 'Microtubes' dirt engine never once made me think that it might be producing a delicious warm valve amp sound. The very much stronger association of Darkglass, for me, was with their reputation for 'metallic / mid scooped / top end fizz'. (Aside: that has held true for my bright jazzy Nord pups particularly where my cabs have a tweeter; although still definitely better than no dirt when dirt has been required and I've been without a pedal board! However I've been pleasantly surprised when using Yamaha P pups, which are more mid heavy, and seem to work really well with DG dirt). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 @Al Krow you have hit the nail on the head. I have read somewhere someone asking if there were tiny tubes in the DG stuff..... Coming to associating sounds with a product, typically an opinion (not incorrectly) will be made in the evidence out there on whatever social media internet format. Sometimes a read between the lines or a leap of faith is required to decide what it actually can bring to the party differently dialled in and played in your own style. The classic example is Patrick Hunter seems to make every pedal sound exactly the same, so I never bother watching his floppy string demo’s, it’s pointless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Will be interesting to see what they name the bass version and how it will sound tho. Price will still be a killer I can predict! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krispn Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 My understanding is that a bass pedal will be a whole new platform rather than a tweak to the Revival Drive.... but it's not at the design stages so likely a long way off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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