Gottastopbuyinggear Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Following a recent (still current, in fact) run in with a bad back I'm looking around at lightweight cabs again. I quite fancy the Markbass Traveler 102P, which is still advertised everywhere as 15Kg, but I remember there was a thread on here mid last year saying the 102P had increased to 18Kg when production moved to Indonesia and the cab material changed. That info was posted by Marco himself, although some of his later posts in the thread could have been taken to suggest he was going to review that info, or even maybe review the cab material change. Has anyone on here actually bought a new one recently, and weighed it or compared it with something around the same weight? I'm currently using an Ampeg PF115, which is only just over 20Kg itself. I think 5Kg lighter, along with having the two side mounted handles, will make a fair bit of difference, but if it's only 2Kg less then it's not going to be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinehead Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I used to have a pair of traveller 102P. I can't answer your question regarding weight but I will say that the shape/size and handle position made them very easy to carry if that helps. They sound good too. I've been considering a pair of NY 121 as a handy modular and affordable rig, now that the prices have dropped. Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverinebass Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I have an Italian one and it's 15kg. Unless they've changed the spec for the new ones it only has one handle on the right hand side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goingdownslow Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 [quote name='machinehead' timestamp='1426081143' post='2714137'] I used to have a pair of traveller 102P. I can't answer your question regarding weight but I will say that the shape/size and handle position made them very easy to carry if that helps. [b]They sound good too.[/b] Frank. [/quote] Now that is a feature that may be worth having. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottastopbuyinggear Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) [quote name='machinehead' timestamp='1426081143' post='2714137'] I used to have a pair of traveller 102P. I can't answer your question regarding weight but I will say that the shape/size and handle position made them very easy to carry if that helps. They sound good too. I've been considering a pair of NY 121 as a handy modular and affordable rig, now that the prices have dropped. Frank. [/quote] Yeah, the NY 121 is definitely another option I've been thinking about. Even easier to transport than the 2x10 I'd guess. [quote name='Wolverinebass' timestamp='1426102242' post='2714463'] I have an Italian one and it's 15kg. Unless they've changed the spec for the new ones it only has one handle on the right hand side. [/quote] Aha - I did a quick search on google images and the first one I found showing the left hand side showed a handle. I've taken another look, though, and it seems to be a badly labelled photo as the dimensions look all wrong. I suspect it's actually a 2x12 cab... [attachment=186102:timthumb.jpeg] Edited March 11, 2015 by Gottastopbuyinggear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverinebass Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 That's the 212. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 We've got a new one in the store. I think our scales go up to 20kg so we can weigh one for you tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottastopbuyinggear Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 [quote name='molan' timestamp='1426109975' post='2714630'] We've got a new one in the store. I think our scales go up to 20kg so we can weigh one for you tomorrow [/quote] That's a very kind offer - thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex B Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I bought a new one from Thomann a couple of weeks ago. It does seem very light, but seeing this thread inspired me to get the luggage scales out - according to them it's not even 15kg, was showing just under 14kg. Maybe mine's made of cardboard or something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottastopbuyinggear Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 [quote name='Alex B' timestamp='1426144411' post='2714816'] I bought a new one from Thomann a couple of weeks ago. It does seem very light, but seeing this thread inspired me to get the luggage scales out - according to them it's not even 15kg, was showing just under 14kg. Maybe mine's made of cardboard or something... [/quote] Thanks for doing that. Are you happy with the cab? I know some people complain about the tweeters being hissy in these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 [quote name='Gottastopbuyinggear' timestamp='1426164133' post='2715077'] Thanks for doing that. Are you happy with the cab? I know some people complain about the tweeters being hissy in these. [/quote] On my old one there was an attenuator for the Tweeter so you could turn it if not totally off, certainly down. I just left it a 12 oclock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex B Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 [quote name='Gottastopbuyinggear' timestamp='1426164133' post='2715077'] Thanks for doing that. Are you happy with the cab? I know some people complain about the tweeters being hissy in these. [/quote] I haven't gigged it yet, only rehearsed with it so far. Gigging tomorrow night though, so we will see.... The tweeter is quite hissy, yes. But as yorks5 says, there is an attenuator, so I imagine I'll be giving it a tweak tomorrow night if the hiss is really noticeable. All in all so far though, I'm really liking the sound of the cab, from the limited rehearsal and home playing time it's had so far. And of course the weight and size of it is a bonus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestar Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 [quote name='Gottastopbuyinggear' timestamp='1426079516' post='2714115'] Following a recent (still current, in fact) run in with a bad back I'm looking around at lightweight cabs again. I quite fancy the Markbass Traveler 102P, which is still advertised everywhere as 15Kg, but I remember there was a thread on here mid last year saying the 102P had increased to 18Kg when production moved to Indonesia and the cab material changed. That info was posted by Marco himself, although some of his later posts in the thread could have been taken to suggest he was going to review that info, or even maybe review the cab material change. Has anyone on here actually bought a new one recently, and weighed it or compared it with something around the same weight? I'm currently using an Ampeg PF115, which is only just over 20Kg itself. I think 5Kg lighter, along with having the two side mounted handles, will make a fair bit of difference, but if it's only 2Kg less then it's not going to be worth it. [/quote] I just had a look athe instruction manual for my cmd102p bought in 2006 and it says 20kg. So have they got lighter and then heavier again ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonepete Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) [quote name='lonestar' timestamp='1426252233' post='2716164'] I just had a look athe instruction manual for my cmd102p bought in 2006 and it says 20kg. So have they got lighter and then heavier again ? [/quote] The traveller 102P is a cab only, whereas the CMD102P is a combo, not sure if you're confusing the two. Apologies if that's not what you meant. My own CMD102P ( Made in Italy 2012/3) weighs more than 20KG, but that's not really a big concern for me,especially as it's just been relegated to back up status. Cheers Pete Edited March 13, 2015 by tbonepete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonestar Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Sorry that's me confusing cabs v combos. Another senior moment. I was only thinking last night while rehearsing with a loud drummer how nicely a 102 cab would work under my combo. What were you thinking of sticking on top of your 102p if you go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 [quote name='Gottastopbuyinggear' timestamp='1426141225' post='2714802'] That's a very kind offer - thanks! [/quote] We sold ours before I could weigh it! Have ordered another though I've spoken to Some people about this and have heard that an early batch of the Indonesian ones may have been heavier but they are all now back to the previous weight (which seems to be borne out in comments above) We should have the next order in early next week so will try to weigh that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottastopbuyinggear Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 [quote name='lonestar' timestamp='1426271103' post='2716484'] Sorry that's me confusing cabs v combos. Another senior moment. I was only thinking last night while rehearsing with a loud drummer how nicely a 102 cab would work under my combo. What were you thinking of sticking on top of your 102p if you go for it. [/quote] I'm using an Ampeg PF500 at the moment, through a PF115HE cab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockwave Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I got an Indonesian one, brand new recently and it's 15KG or lighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottastopbuyinggear Posted March 21, 2015 Author Share Posted March 21, 2015 Thanks for everyone's responses. I can now answer my own question as well, as I've taken the plunge and bought one. First impressions are great, although I've only played it on my own in the house so far. It sounds, to me, a lot better than my PF115 - I know it's going to be different from a tone point of view, but It feels more solidly put together, and there's not the slight resonance I feel from the Ampeg cab on certain lower notes. As to the original question, I was a little worried at first that 5Kg wouldn't make that much difference, but it really is hugely easier to carry. According to my bathroom scales it's 13Kg, but that does sound a bit optimistic - they're probably not that accurate at lower weights, and on top of that I've been training them to tell me I'm only twelve and a half stone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottastopbuyinggear Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share Posted April 10, 2015 On the off chance that anyone is interested, my shiny new luggage scales do confirm 13kg for the cab. No wonder it seems a lot lighter than the Ampeg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) Sounds better played so the speakers are above/below each other so I heated the badge from the back with a hair-dryer and re-stuck it at 90 degrees. Sad .... Edited April 10, 2015 by yorks5stringer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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