taurus1 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I'm thinking of selling my cabs to buy either a GK or Aguilar 412.I just thought I'd ask if anyone has experience of getting either of the above in a Ford Focus?.I'd feel a bit of a dolt committing to buying one and being unable to get it home.I've never seen either cab in the flesh,as it were and not sure it would fit.Any opinions gratefully received.Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Why a 4x12? Why not get a good 2x12 & if you need to play large outdoor gigs with no PA support then get a 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taurus1 Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 Good point,but I need quite a hefty set up to be heard as I'm the only thing that doesn't go through the band's PA,and they ain't quiet!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Neither is a good 2x12. My Markbass 2x10 wasn't quiet either. I never went through the band's PA & had no trouble being heard. What's your current rig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taurus1 Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 Cabs are early Markbass,2x10 w/tweeter and 1x15 w/tweeter.Amp is an old Ampeg SVT 200t.They sound good together but I like to push the mids and the 2x10 doesn't always like it which is why I'm thinking of 12's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Another vote for a good 2x12. Bergantino would be my choice, but there are great choices these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Are they STD or Traveller cabs? The STD has the same frequency range regardless of 2x10 or 1x15. It might be your amp that's the factor? Try borrowing an amp from a fellow bassist (or even a local music shop). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taurus1 Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 Here's the current set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I had an Aguilar 4x10 briefly, it weighed an absolute ton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassman Steve Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 [color=#000000]width at narrowest point is 1050mm and length with seats folded is 1565mm and without the seats folded is 920mm - courtesy of Google.[/color] [b]Dimensions:[/b][color=#000000][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=3] 45"H x 23.25"W x 17"D - courtesy of Aguilar (x 25 for mm)[/size][/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=3]Should be an easy fit if that's the GS412 you're thinking of - with seats folded though.[/size][/font][/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Ahh, that is old MB cabs. Are they B&C drivers in those? First thing to try is putting the 2x10 on it's side (you can turn the badge if it bugs you). This will do 2 things... 1, bring the drivers higher to ear level & 2, increase the dispersion from the mids so that you & the band hear things better when not stood straight in front of the cab. Personally, I'd sell the 15 & get another 2x10 (or vice versa). But if you try another amp & the cab's still ain't doing it for you, then get yourself either to a good music shop or a bassbash & try out some gear. I'd never suggest buying without trying (even though I did! But I did like what I got). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taurus1 Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 Not sure what the drivers are tbh,they sound great though,but I'm thinking of a move to a 412 so I can get a bit more mid and perhaps a fuller and tighter sound.A 4 ohm 412 appeals as I'm used to having something that kicks me in the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Well if a 412 is a must you can do worse than a Marshall VBC412. Amazing cabs, weigh a ton though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taurus1 Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 We had a Marshall 412 provided for some gigs abroad some time ago and it had punch for days.I need to have the twinkly top end of a tweeter however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Driver diameter on a decent cab has no bearing on how much bass or mid it produces. It's down to the amp & cab design. If you can, try a Bearfaced cab. Apparently very loud & very light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I'd join another band before buying a 4x12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taurus1 Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 I've always used a 'big' setup,I still have my 2 SWR Goliath II's and they still sound fantastic.I'm not worried about the physicality of moving bigger cabs,but they have to fit in my car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 If you have a PA why bother with a cab at all? DI your head and use a monitor wedge (providing it's not a valve head of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 [quote name='taurus1' timestamp='1410293057' post='2547978'] I'm thinking of selling my cabs to buy either a GK or Aguilar 412.I just thought I'd ask if anyone has experience of getting either of the above in a Ford Focus?.I'd feel a bit of a dolt committing to buying one and being unable to get it home.I've never seen either cab in the flesh,as it were and not sure it would fit.Any opinions gratefully received.Thanks. [/quote] I've had a Hiwatt 4 x 12 on it's front in the back of mine with the back seats down. What you won't like it the chiropractors bills for when you're putting it back in after a gig on a regular basis. Factor in your bass, amp in the space left and it drives like a slug - but that's the Focus for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taurus1 Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 [quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1410362463' post='2548579'] I've had a Hiwatt 4 x 12 on it's front in the back of mine with the back seats down. What you won't like it the chiropractors bills for when you're putting it back in after a gig on a regular basis. Factor in your bass, amp in the space left and it drives like a slug - but that's the Focus for you. [/quote] Every car I've ever owned has been turned into a slug by carrying my bass gear,I just accept it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taurus1 Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 [quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1410359742' post='2548536'] If you have a PA why bother with a cab at all? DI your head and use a monitor wedge (providing it's not a valve head of course). [/quote] Sadly the PA isn't very mighty,although I have tried your suggestion in the past.None of us were particularly happy with the result.If we can someday afford a better PA then it might be the way forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 [quote name='taurus1' timestamp='1410451854' post='2549596'] Sadly the PA isn't very mighty,although I have tried your suggestion in the past.None of us were particularly happy with the result.If we can someday afford a better PA then it might be the way forward. [/quote] That's a shame, although maybe spend the cash on a PA cab that can take bass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taurus1 Posted September 11, 2014 Author Share Posted September 11, 2014 Thanks for your insights guys,It's given me some things to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolo Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Love 412s! Mesa Boogie, Glockenklang, ebs, vanderkley, tecamp and others all make great 412s. Get a neodymium if you can afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiehoffmann Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I've been using an Aguilar DB 212 with a DB 210 on top of it for a few months now. Super loud, articulated with plenty of punch and a nice round controlled bottom. With this rig I played arenas and amphitheatres in a rock band with two guitar players + loud drummer and a keyboard player with an actual Leslie speaker on stage and my Tone Hammer 500's master volume never had to be pushed beyond 11 o'clock with the gain around 10 / 11 o'clock. I think two DB 212's (or a 412) might be a little boomy on certain stages. The 212 and 210 are such a great match sound wise and also offer you a modular rig that's not so difficult to transport. I couldn't recommend it more. I imagine with an SVT Classic it would be even more amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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