Stan_da_man Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Definitely one of my fave albums from last year, I think only Ex Lives by ETID could top it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 It's odd I have only just got this album. I wonder why I wasn't aware of its release until now? I heard Leathers a while ago but I thought that was the single. Must pay attention in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 [quote name='Elvis Valentine' timestamp='1362701495' post='2003762'] 'Grunge' what the hell was that? other than a time period. lol [/quote] Grunge was really [i]quite[/i] important... I'm guessing you were too young to be there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricksflynn Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 [quote name='uncle psychosis' timestamp='1362732216' post='2003859'] around the fur. One of the all time best metal albums. [/quote] +1 for Around The Fur! An album that really got me into playing. Chi's playing is brilliant on this album as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Ricksflynn' timestamp='1362739441' post='2003981'] +1 for Around The Fur! An album that really got me into playing. Chi's playing is brilliant on this album as well! [/quote] Yep, the album that I heard first, and it's a beauty. I'm not too keen on Adrenaline though. Edited March 8, 2013 by xilddx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricksflynn Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 [quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1362740195' post='2003997'] Yep, the album that I heard first, and it's a beauty. I'm not too keen on Adrenaline though. [/quote] The singles from Adrenaline are good but I agree it's a tad hit and miss. A sound of a band still finding their feet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 It sounds as though they are moving further and further away from Carpenter's massive riffing style of olden days, or am I just missing the great tracks? The last Deftones track that had me thinking 'wow' was [i]Hexagram[/i]! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Valentine Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 [quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1362737046' post='2003941'] Grunge was really [i]quite[/i] important... I'm guessing you were too young to be there? [/quote] Not getting what i mean obviously. Its just a word that refers to a time period and maybe vaguely local (although not really). Not really helpful when trying to describe the sound of the bands in that given genre. Soundgarden = grunge, Stone Temple Pilots = grunge, Afghan Whigs = grunge, Mudhoney = grunge, and of course Nirvana = grunge. You get me? All very different stylistically, really. But all considered 'grunge'. And i certainly made no claims about it being unimportant. But Back to the Deftones. Abe is a freakin amazing drummer and I love that they generally wear their love of 80s synth pop on their sleeves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 [quote name='Ricksflynn' timestamp='1362741772' post='2004033'] The singles from Adrenaline are good but I agree it's a tad hit and miss. A sound of a band still finding their feet? [/quote] Yes, still good enough for Madonna to sign em up though Adrenaline - Demonstration Around the Fur - Revelation White Pony - Deification Deftones - Defecation Saturday Night Wrist - Ressurection Diamond Eyes - Continuation Koi No Yokan - Elation That's the way I look at them anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 [sup]BOught it last night, stuck it on in the car this morning, loving what I've heard so far! Cheers for the heads up [/sup] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1362745564' post='2004106'] It sounds as though they are moving further and further away from Carpenter's massive riffing style of olden days, or am I just missing the great tracks? The last Deftones track that had me thinking 'wow' was [i]Hexagram[/i]! [/quote] There are plenty of massive riffs on this album mate. Goon Squad is one of my favourites. Edited March 8, 2013 by xilddx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 [quote name='Merton' timestamp='1362745924' post='2004114'] [sup]BOught it last night, stuck it on in the car this morning, loving what I've heard so far! Cheers for the heads up [/sup] [/quote] Excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Diamond eyes from Diamond Eyes has to be the heaviest riff they've ever done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 [quote name='Elvis Valentine' timestamp='1362745693' post='2004109'] Not getting what i mean obviously. Its just a word that refers to a time period and maybe vaguely local (although not really). Not really helpful when trying to describe the sound of the bands in that given genre. Soundgarden = grunge, Stone Temple Pilots = grunge, Afghan Whigs = grunge, Mudhoney = grunge, and of course Nirvana = grunge. You get me? All very different stylistically, really. But all considered 'grunge'.[/quote] Yep, and largely bought and listened to by people who identified with that particular scene, wore the appropriate clothes and haircuts, smoked the appropriate cigarettes, had the correct political views and read Melody Maker to find out whether they were doing it right. And probably thought they were being terribly individualistic doing it. All very naive and sweet. I think "genres" genuinely were looser in definition back in the 1980s/90s than they are now, but that they commanded a sense of loyalty that is less prevalent now. Probably because music and information about it was less immediately available and you had to rely on word of mouth and magazines to tell you who you might like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 [quote name='uncle psychosis' timestamp='1362732216' post='2003859'] around the fur. One of the all time best metal albums. [/quote] Agreed. I'm not a huge Deftones fan - Didn't like the debut at all and lost interest when that 'Back in School' vid was on TV all the time - but Around the Fur is absolutely monstrous. Perhaps I should give the new stuff a spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan_da_man Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 I wouldn't say the new album is as heavy as Diamond Eyes, I would say it was a tad more melodic though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peted Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Have liked all Deftones albums to date. New one is very good from the off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Its weird, some of my favourite Deftones songs are on their worst album; Hexagram, Minerva and Battleaxe are huge! Truckstop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Valentine Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 [quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1362748493' post='2004172'] Yep, and largely bought and listened to by people who identified with that particular scene, wore the appropriate clothes and haircuts, smoked the appropriate cigarettes, had the correct political views and read Melody Maker to find out whether they were doing it right. And probably thought they were being terribly individualistic doing it. All very naive and sweet. I think "genres" genuinely were looser in definition back in the 1980s/90s than they are now, but that they commanded a sense of loyalty that is less prevalent now. Probably because music and information about it was less immediately available and you had to rely on word of mouth and magazines to tell you who you might like. [/quote] Very definitely, i get that people want to be part of something. But i mentioned Nu Metal in that same way. Deftones were very definitely grouped in with that 'scene' despite it not really being musically very easy to describe, Coal Chamber = nu metal, Deftones = nu metal, Korn = nu metal, Limp Bizkit = nu metal etc they all had guitars and wore baggy pants but musically not really the same :-) All i really meant i suppose is that Deftones easily transcend that limited genre Just as all good bands do i guess. imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Valentine Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 [quote name='Stan_da_man' timestamp='1362749036' post='2004190'] I wouldn't say the new album is as heavy as Diamond Eyes, I would say it was a tad more melodic though. [/quote] I agree . Its still pretty heavy though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 I personally like how they are effortlessly huge in their sound, with a brilliant rhythm usually underlying each song. Much to be said for the simplicity of the guitars. I prefer a guitarist who thinks 'melody' rather than 'technical'. There is an underlying 80s influence...probably stemming from Tears for Fears and their melancholic approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1362754551' post='2004318'] I personally like how they are effortlessly huge in their sound, with a brilliant rhythm usually underlying each song. Much to be said for the simplicity of the guitars. I prefer a guitarist who thinks 'melody' rather than 'technical'. [b]There is an underlying 80s influence...[/b]probably stemming from Tears for Fears and their melancholic approach. [/quote] The Cure figures heavily in Deftones DNA. Chino's a big fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Yeah, did anyone buy 'B-Sides and Rarities'? Loads of 80's covers in there. Having a Deftones day now; cheers Nigel! Truckstop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 [quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1362757734' post='2004386'] Yeah, did anyone buy 'B-Sides and Rarities'? Loads of 80's covers in there. Having a Deftones day now; cheers Nigel! Truckstop [/quote] Oh sh*t! I must get that, will iTunes it when I get home. I am having a Deftones day, sitting here at work doing some serious admin drudgery and mashing my ears with Koi No Yokan It makes the work almost enjoyable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbass4k Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 [quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1362752321' post='2004262'] Its weird, some of my favourite Deftones songs are on their worst album; Hexagram, Minerva and Battleaxe are huge! Truckstop [/quote] That's because the self titled album is one of their best, Deathblow is spectacular. I love the new album, their melody and huge soaring choruses are always why I've loved them. I've never seen the appeal of Adrenaline and Around The Fur personally, I certainly can't understand why people say ATF is their best album when they are the band who made White Pony. White Pony, Deftones, Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan are all spectacular. Saturday Night Wrist has some of their best songs (Hole In The Earth, Riviere, Rats!) but it's just too disjointed to be a great album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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