Dave Vader Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1339361121' post='1687529'] Punk was a short-lived fashion thing ... it lasted slightly longer than hot pants. And now, flame away. [/quote] Hot Pants will never die.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low End Bee Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1339355664' post='1687366'] For me, punk can be split into 2 parts: Part 1 - Pistols, Clash, Buzzcocks, Damned, etc. Bands that all looked remarkably different from one another, and in fact, the band members themselves looked different from each other. All the bands looked odd maybe, but easy to tell apart. Part 2 - GBH, Exploited, Anti Nowhere League, Discharge etc. Bands that looked very similar, with, to an outside view, a set "look". Both parts had their great bands, and some not so good ones. For me, I prefer the earlier stuff, though have selections of both in my music collection. [/quote] I'm Part 1 all the way. Fresh, exciting and inventive. The Part 2 mob in the mmost part do nothing for me. 'Anarchists' with unwritten rules........ The true glory of punk was making kids realise you don't have to be a virtuoso before you start a band and promoting a DIY ethos to getting things done outside of the established record companies. Fanzines and home made singles are the blogs and soundclouds of today. You're probably more punk than you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low End Bee Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 As for basses. Whatever you could beg, borrow or steal. Lots of hideous copies. My Avon EB0 was par for horribleness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 The abundance of Rics made for lovely viewing! The John Cooper Clarke clip looked (albeit briefly) - and sounded - Ric to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Vader Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 [quote name='12stringbassist' timestamp='1339336053' post='1686968'] Hooky's signed Hondo II Ric copy was in a glass case in PMT in Salford not long ago, with a scary price tag. Foxton's Ric copy was an Ibanez. Wonder if he's still got it? [/quote] I thought Hooky's Hondo got nicked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderider Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 wasnt sid vicious taught by lemmy? the white p bass was given to him by lemmy?,rumour was lemmy got that off dee dee ramone?at the end of the day....its all just rock n roll!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 [quote name='thunderider' timestamp='1339449796' post='1688793'] ....its all just rock n roll!! [/quote] Isn't that what Billy Joel said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 [quote name='Dave Vader' timestamp='1339445720' post='1688710'] I thought Hooky's Hondo got nicked? [/quote] I read in one of the Factory books that he smashed it up on a low ceiling, circa Autumn '79? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTaff Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 [quote name='thunderider' timestamp='1339449796' post='1688793'] wasnt sid vicious taught by lemmy? the white p bass was given to him by lemmy?,rumour was lemmy got that off dee dee ramone?at the end of the day....its all just rock n roll!! [/quote] Lemmy TRIED to leach him, http://louderthanwar.com/an-epic-interview-with-lemmy-by-john-robb/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Vincent Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 [quote name='Low End Bee' timestamp='1339425046' post='1688226'] ........ The true glory of punk was making kids realise you don't have to be a virtuoso before you start a band and promoting a DIY ethos to getting things done outside of the established record companies. Fanzines and home made singles are the blogs and soundclouds of today. You're probably more punk than you know [/quote] Damn right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Vincent Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 [quote name='Dave Vader' timestamp='1339445720' post='1688710'] I thought Hooky's Hondo got nicked? [/quote] I read a magazine interview with Hooky a few years ago where he said he donated it to a charity.I'll dig it out and confirm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apa Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 [quote name='Spike Vincent' timestamp='1339506573' post='1689439'] I read a magazine interview with Hooky a few years ago where he said he donated it to a charity.I'll dig it out and confirm. [/quote] Sue Ryder? A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pst62 Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 [quote name='thunderider' timestamp='1339449796' post='1688793'] wasnt sid vicious taught by lemmy? the white p bass was given to him by lemmy?,rumour was lemmy got that off dee dee ramone?at the end of the day....its all just rock n roll!! [/quote] I remember reading an interview with Phil Lynott where he said he also tried (in vain) to teach Sid to play. On the P bass rumour ....I can't see how Sid's Oly White/Rosewood Precision (via Lemmy) ever belonged to Dee Dee Ramone. Dee Dee's only ever owned one Oly White/Rosewood P bass. It was a 60's job with a Torty shell scratch plate. That bass was stolen with the rest of The Ramones gear in the US in 1977, it was replaced by three Oly White/Maple P's with black scratch plates. There was also rumours going round up north back in the day that Matlock's black Ricky and one of Jonesy's guitars were acquired via the back of one of 10cc's tour trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacqueslemac Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 To go off on (another) tangent, these documentaries always start with the premise that before punk it was all Glam Rock, Prog Rock etc and that punk exploded out of nowhere. John Blaney's excellent book "A Howlin' Wind" kicks that into touch completely. Punk rock evolved from pub rock (Chilli Willi and the Red Hot Peppers, Dr Feelgood, Ian Drury etc). I never went to a glam rock, prog rock gig but saw plenty of pub rockers and then punk gigs and, with a few exceptions, they did seem to flow from one to the other. My recollection was that by 1979 it all felt "safe" again. All the edginess that came with punk had faded away (most had signed up to major labels so no longer felt like outsiders). I could comb my hair into a DA without fear of being attacked. Instead we began to worry about power cuts, strikes, union protests, nuclear war and whatnot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Jacqueslemac' timestamp='1342685116' post='1739099'] To go off on (another) tangent, these documentaries always start with the premise that before punk it was all Glam Rock, Prog Rock etc and that punk exploded out of nowhere. John Blaney's excellent book "A Howlin' Wind" kicks that into touch completely. Punk rock evolved from pub rock (Chilli Willi and the Red Hot Peppers, Dr Feelgood, Ian Drury etc). I never went to a glam rock, prog rock gig but saw plenty of pub rockers and then punk gigs and, with a few exceptions, they did seem to flow from one to the other. My recollection was that by 1979 it all felt "safe" again. All the edginess that came with punk had faded away (most had signed up to major labels so no longer felt like outsiders). I could comb my hair into a DA without fear of being attacked. Instead we began to worry about power cuts, strikes, union protests, nuclear war and whatnot. [/quote] Did you not watch the series? The whole first part was about the Pub Rock era and bands. And a lot of the post-punk bands like Joy Division, Gang of Four etc. were far more edgy than any of the punk bands. Edited July 19, 2012 by BigRedX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacqueslemac Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 That explains it! No, I missed the first one. All is forgiven! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) Sid was not a bass player glenn matlock is a bass player p bass Edited July 20, 2012 by Stealth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Vincent Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 [quote name='Stealth' timestamp='1342816895' post='1741577'] Sid was not a bass player glenn matlock is a bass player p bass [/quote] Also Rickenbacker.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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