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This may or may not help you as im 6ft 3" but I prefer to play nothing but heavy basses and my back ain't too much a fan of this either during a 3hr set or band practise. However I cope alot better when doing a 3hr set than a practise as Im always altering my posture and playing position and this seems to help alot. I always suffer at band practise more as Im constantly stood up straight. As I said this probably wont help you much as we're two different people but if it helps me out it may be something to consider?

For example I alternate alot from playing with the body of the bass against my belly and the neck to the left of me, to body of bass at my side against my hip with the neck infront of me. Also a nice strap with a wide shoulder support does wonders :D

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[quote name='ead' timestamp='1330002118' post='1551122']
My story is very similar: Rugby, gym, (and rowing) slipped disc in neck.
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I always thought, if I was going to do it, it would be doing something pretty awful - like a bad tackle. I just didn't realise how precious the back can be, and how little it takes to upset it.

I'll have to look into the Overwater strap. If it's working for a fellow-sufferer, it should work for me.

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[quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1330029669' post='1551825']
So, is my dream of a Fender Precision still alive? Can one be had for under 9lbs at a reasonable price?
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yes. See my previous post! Super light pre-painted bodies for $55. You just need a donor bass for bits.

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[quote name='SebCarr' timestamp='1330030088' post='1551838']
yes. See my previous post! Super light pre-painted bodies for $55. You just need a donor bass for bits.
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I did look at those and I'm very interested. But would they sound like a fender? And what about neck dive - would that not be an issue on a body that light?

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[quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1329985635' post='1550686']
For not being able to cope with basses much over 8.5lbs?

Has this been a problem for anyone else, or should I just "man up"?
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I'd like to say that being huge and manly means I can cope with 11 ish lbs of 1978 Fender P,but as you've met me I probably wouldn't get away with that....

Are you after an actual Fender? My 2008 Squier is a featherweight compared to my Fender.Perfectly good instrument when fitted with better pickups.

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[quote name='Spike Vincent' timestamp='1330030527' post='1551852']
I'd like to say that being huge and manly means I can cope with 11 ish lbs of 1978 Fender P,but as you've met me I probably wouldn't get away with that....

Are you after an actual Fender? My 2008 Squier is a featherweight compared to my Fender.Perfectly good instrument when fitted with better pickups.
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:D

I am hoping for an actual Fender, however I'm considering the Matt Freeman signature. But, if I got one of those I'd have to replace the neck for two reasons - firstly because I can't stand the gloss finish, and secondly because I couldn't have either the signature on the front of the headstock or the Squier logo (before anyone says it, I'm not a snob! I'd be happy to gig a Squier and have in the past, but I hated the way other people have judged me for it.)

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As I said in my previous post, try a Precision Lyte there's always some on ebay such as..........

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Precision-Bass-Lyte-Lightweight-Plays-Beautifully-Fantastic-Condition-/270916509394?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3f13e1ded2
or this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Precision-Lyte-Bass-Japanese-1993-1994-Red-Burst-Flame-/260962293969?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3cc29098d1

I know these sound good cuz I watched a guy playing one locally a while back playing a tobacco sunburst one and he got a great sound from his.....Tony.

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[quote name='clarkpegasus4001' timestamp='1330035432' post='1551952']
As I said in my previous post, try a Precision Lyte there's always some on ebay such as..........

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Precision-Bass-Lyte-Lightweight-Plays-Beautifully-Fantastic-Condition-/270916509394?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3f13e1ded2
or this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Precision-Lyte-Bass-Japanese-1993-1994-Red-Burst-Flame-/260962293969?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item3cc29098d1

I know these sound good cuz I watched a guy playing one locally a while back playing a tobacco sunburst one and he got a great sound from his.....Tony.
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They're cool and all, but they don't have the classic precision look ;)

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[quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1330062989' post='1552107']
They're cool and all, but they don't have the classic precision look ;)
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What's there not to like..? The first of those (the black'un...) is a snip at that price, hard case, new battery an' all. Light weight, 'real' Fender, Jap made... If looks are really of that much importance to you (and why not..?), then put up with the weight and that's that. If you want a superb lightweight instrument, look no further.
Just my opinion, of course; good luck with your search...

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[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1330081746' post='1552354']
What's there not to like..? The first of those (the black'un...) is a snip at that price, hard case, new battery an' all. Light weight, 'real' Fender, Jap made... If looks are really of that much importance to you (and why not..?), then put up with the weight and that's that. If you want a superb lightweight instrument, look no further.
Just my opinion, of course; good luck with your search...
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Useful, thanks!

/sarcasm

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[quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1330030282' post='1551846']
I did look at those and I'm very interested. But would they sound like a fender? And what about neck dive - would that not be an issue on a body that light?
[/quote]huh? isn't neck dive a problem with fenders anyway? it isn't the body weight which affects neck dive but the position of the strap buttons and the sheer enormity of a 4 in line headstock.

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[quote name='lettsguitars' timestamp='1330085020' post='1552418']
huh? isn't neck dive a problem with fenders anyway? it isn't the body weight which affects neck dive but the position of the strap buttons and the sheer enormity of a 4 in line headstock.
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?? My P is perfectly balanced .. That said I generally play with the neck fairly level. I know from my profile pic, obviously I used to play with the neck shooting up .. but that was a couple of years ago now, .. I'd say that body weight would be a far greater factor than a slightly larger headstock.

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[quote name='Dave Tipping' timestamp='1330091730' post='1552584']
?? My P is perfectly balanced .. That said I generally play with the neck fairly level. I know from my profile pic, obviously I used to play with the neck shooting up .. but that was a couple of years ago now, .. I'd say that body weight would be a far greater factor than a slightly larger headstock.
[/quote]Sorry but no. The centre of gravity has everything to do with balance, not weight.

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[quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1330029669' post='1551825']
So, is my dream of a Fender Precision still alive? Can one be had for under 9lbs at a reasonable price?
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I had a secondhand 2003 USA P bass. One with the S1 switch. Excellent playing bass, and it weighed 8.5lbs. Less than my Sterlng bass, which after mod's now weighs 8.6lbs.

Any issues like neck dive were non existant as I use a quality strap. [url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Comfort_Strapps.html"]http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Comfort_Strapps.html[/url]

I find it's not so much the width of a strap (although that spreads weight out a bit) the material helps prevent neck dive. I used to use those clip lock things that were made off seat belts, a nice strap but no support and everything would dive due to it's slippy texture.

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