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[quote name='mrtcat' post='1110721' date='Feb 1 2011, 10:17 AM']At the risk of dragging this off topic I feel I must state that I have never heard a credible argument against earplugs. If you're not wearing them cos you're worried what others think then your not only totally stupid you're also going to suffer badly for your pig headed vanity. My father played in a band in the 70's for just 7months and in that time they played just 11 gigs. Ever since then (for the last 35yrs!!!!) he has suffered with the most mind bendingly bad tinitus. He can't bear to be in a quiet room as the high pitch whine drives him mad, he can't sleep properly and he has had to wear a hearing aid since the age of 27. He's seen umpteen specialists who unanimously attribute his problems to noise damage caused by playing live. He is now totally unable to play his guitars as he's so distraught that playing them has done so much damage to his life. He'd tell anyone who won't wear them through vanity or peer pressure that you need to grow up and accept that not taking proper care of your ears will end in misery. Sorry to rant and sorry to have hi-jacked the thread a bit but I wouldn't wish for anyone to go through the same as my dad. :)[/quote]

I feel that this is a bit of a dig at me, which is a bit unfair, as you don't know me from Adam. I don't wear earplugs at gigs, its not because I am "totally stupid" nor do I suffer from "pig headed vanity" Its because if it's in a decent size room I don't often suffer any high pitch whistling afterwards. I always wear earplugs at rehearsals as the room is much smaller and would always advise others to do the same, especially if your band is as loud as mine.

I do admit to not knowing very much about the effects of loud music on the human ear, I don't think I suffer from tinitus, but I suppose I am as likely to as the next guy and am happy to take advice.

I was not trying to present a "credible argument against earplugs" I suspect that there isn't one.

I'm sorry to read about your dads problems but if either of you knew me, then you would know that I am not one to bow to peer pressure and certainly don't need to grow up!

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Decibel levels and ear damage standards vary from country to country,and from individual to individual.As a general rule,if you're exposing yourself (ooer) to 90db for more than an hour at a time regularly,don't expect to be listening to the music you recorded in your 20's when you're in the old folks home.Simple answer? get a db meter and find out.When my band were clocked at 125db in the rehersal room I started wearing earplugs.I can now have conversations with the drummer that he has trouble hearing.Cymbals are louder than Marshalls.

[url="http://www.hse.gov.uk/noise/regulations.htm"]http://www.hse.gov.uk/noise/regulations.htm[/url]

[url="http://www.hse.gov.uk/noise/mythaug07.pdf"]http://www.hse.gov.uk/noise/mythaug07.pdf[/url]

[url="http://www.soundadvice.info/"]http://www.soundadvice.info/[/url]

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[quote name='4-string-thing' post='1111555' date='Feb 1 2011, 08:21 PM']:) I thought I was the one with soldering iron skills....[/quote]

No doubting that! :)
On a training course I get to teach from time to time, I describe that rather gory injury and then say "so I grabbed a soldering iron..."
There's usually a few uncomfortable squirms and pale faces when they make the obvious wrong assumption...

I hate teaching so it's my compensation :lol:

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[quote name='Spike Vincent' post='1108027' date='Jan 30 2011, 12:16 PM']Another bass ( or at least a set of strings)
A hard case (trust not those flimsy soft cases)
A stand
Spare leads
Batteries as appropriate
Nail clippers and a nail file ( ever broke a nail before a gig?)
An extension lead.
A towel.[/quote]

All I'd add antiperspirant / deodorant to that, but otherwise perfect.

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[quote name='icastle' post='1111901' date='Feb 2 2011, 01:13 AM']No doubting that! :)
On a training course I get to teach from time to time, I describe that rather gory injury and then say "so I grabbed a soldering iron..."
There's usually a few uncomfortable squirms and pale faces when they make the obvious wrong assumption...

I hate teaching so it's my compensation :)[/quote]

Never been tempted then, eh? :lol:

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[quote name='MuckedUpFunkies' post='1111650' date='Feb 1 2011, 09:26 PM']I don't think he was trying to "have a dig" merely make you see sense. A musician without hearing is like JK with out a stupid hat... Just doesn't work :)[/quote]

Thanks, but I don't consider myself good enough to be described as a "musician" :)

As for the earplug issue, its all a bit irrelevant now as I quit my band during last nights rehearsal.... So I won't be needing any for a while!

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[quote name='paul_5' post='1108453' date='Jan 30 2011, 06:43 PM']:) I know roadies and sound engineers who carry less than this! How much of this is [i]essential[/i]?[/quote]

How much? Depends how serious you are. I always feel as if I should be better prepared than I am. Back in the day, that list would include booze, fags and other stuff :)

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[quote name='Johnston' post='1121115' date='Feb 9 2011, 11:03 AM']OKAY I finally done it I found the one piece of kit we all need.

[url="http://www.turdtwister.com/"]http://www.turdtwister.com/[/url][/quote]

Someone please tell me this wasn't the inspiration behind Bernard Matthews Turkey Twizzlers... :)

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[quote name='icastle' post='1121163' date='Feb 9 2011, 11:34 AM']Someone please tell me this <turdtwister> wasn't the inspiration behind Bernard Matthews Turkey Twizzlers... :)[/quote]
Well, the one is about as tasty and nutritious as the other... :)

EDIT: Probably.

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