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Possibly - but mounting a power amp brings with it other issues. But that a side, there is something about the Eich design which fundamentally lets it down... but that's all I'm going to say on that front

You are kind of there in the first paragraph... but there's something else missing... The problem being is - IEM is all about portability of not carrying around a rig or monitors. If you then carry around something the size and weight of a bass board, you are keeping the stage quiet... but not minimising the gear that you are carrying. And bass boards... and associated amps... are heavy and not particularly portable. And again, when a setup comes in closer to a grand...

They are great. They put the feeling of big (even stadium sized) bass back into the room on a silent/large stage. Expensive, fairly big and heavy to carry around and can be quite complex to fit into the rig. Both P&D and Eich are compromised on their amp front though. Maybe myself and @intime-nick will have something to offer up in due course.

It's more bearable than the bass show... unless you happen to be stood next to some cymbals. I find the underlying subby drone at the bass shows the most fatiguing... and the staple guns the most annoying.

Just caught the last of it!

Yeah - out of all the shows I've done, I would say the most popular are the UE6s, particularly with bass players and drummers (which is not big surprise given that's who the piece was targetted at - and when you hear the UE5 next to the UE6, you'll hear the bigger bass, that drummers and bass players tend (but not always) go for). JH11s (historically the cheapest quad BA) are always of interest and I presume the slightly cheaper A4t will now come into play a bit more now that the price of the JH11 and A4t are more similar now. The A2e and A3, although great pieces don't tend to come into play as much as the show prices (again historically - don't know what's going on this year at this stage) makes the UE6 a bit of a no brainer when you hear the bass response in comparison to the aforementioned piece. Remember, there's no wrong piece - it's what you like the sound of best... but as a bassplayer who uses IEMs strictly for monitoring, I tend to steer people towards headroom in the bass... as that is going to be the thing that you crave the most... yet is the most demanding for IEMs to produce. It's like comparing a 1x10 cab to an 8x10 cab. They can both produce bass... but to get the same volume, one is going to be running quite hard, the other will be more controlled and barely on tickover. As for your query about your setup... the answer - I'm sorry to say it - is it depends. If you can't hear distortion and the meters aren't in the red, the chances are, is that you are OK. What you have to remember is this. If you are running everything at unity, and everything is touching 0db, wave theory tells you that you are doing to have some additions of frequency bands that will take you over 0db and into distortion. For example, if you have the peak of a wave at 50Hz (which is hitting unity), on one channel combining with another wave of 50Hz (which is hitting unity) - they are going to add together to sum to greater than unity... which will push you into the realms of distortion. The good news is, with the meters on a (presumably) digital mixer, you should be able to see the output on the aux not being greater than unity. Likewise, you have to change the sensitivity on the IEM transmitter so the AF input is not peaking. I always aim for 3dB under so you have a good signal to noise ratio... but not going into clipping (and distortion/limiting) if the band happens to dig in or whatever and peak over unity. Without seeing the equipment in front of me, it's hard to say what is happening on your setup... but if you meters are all clear of clipping, you are good. I tend to tell my band, if you need more of something in your mix, turn up your pack and turn the rest of the instruments down on the mix going to your aux.... otherwise the danger is that people keep pushing the sliders up and up and wonder why it's distorting... whilst their wireless pack is on tickover... (idiots).

I'll have my ear plugs. And at least it won't be like standing in a staple gun factory like the bass show will!

There's a number of things at play - the actual sound of the IEM - not all IEMs have the same sound signature - but the reason I push the UE6 over the UE5, is the extra headroom that the UE6 will offer over the UE5. The UE5 will sound slightly tighter due to the use of balanced armatures over dynamic drivers... but the UE6 gives you the headroom comparable to a quad balanced armature (UE11 - quad balanced armature), at approximately 350 quid less. It depends what sort of budget you want to spend... and as I always say, don't put anything in your ears that you don't want to pay the money for... as it can be agonising to drop down to budget having heard up the range! edit - headroom, particularly in the bass, means less chance of distortion (even if not audible - it’s less tiring for your ears)

Hence why I said it depends upon the setup. In the world of DSP, the latency that the smooth hound introduces is a life time and certainly not negligible.

Oh boy. latency is far from negligible.

Surely if you’ve used it for yourself, you’re in a good position to draw conclusions? A lot of it (whether it works well for you or not) depends upon how you are going to use it and what else is happening wireless wise in your band. I have my own views but I think the world doesn’t need yet another latency discussion when the search function works perfectly well!

Just a heads up. I'm going to be helping Paul out at the Drum Show in Manchester on the Custom IEM stand on 21/22 September (I know it's the same weekend as the bass and guitar show in London... somebody didn't really think that one through did they? Some vendors/manufacturers can't be in more than one place at once... but hey). Anybody want to check out the offerings from JH, 1964 and UE, come along and I can hook you up and talk all things IEM with you.

I was going to write this in the other thread but will include it here. I'm going to be helping Paul of the Custom IEM company out at the Manchester Drum show (21/22 September - yes, I know it's on the same weekend of the Guitar and Bass show in London... which numpty thought that was a good idea?) - so if you want to try a load of really nice custom IEMs (there are universal versions of each model available to try) - do pop down and have a look. Then you'll realise that all not IEMs are equal (far from it)... and those apple iphone earbuds you thought were actually quite good... well... yeah. Nah.

This sounds like an excellent setup in which to run IEMs assuming you have the auxes available. Running vocals through IEMs (particularly if you can run them in stereo) is brilliant - easy to pitch, easy to make little adjustments... and gives you loads more confidence. If everything is miced up already, just think of it as ditching the monitors and replacing those monitors with IEMs. You'll have less problems with bleed into open mics. It'll all be glorious.

Change your transmitter to low power too. If you are just on a standard sized stage (eg anything but Wembley), chances are that the high power is doing nothing but churning away at your battery capacity. Best advice is get a set of Eneloops (Just the standard white AAs) and a decent charger. You’ll be sorted. Best practice as above, is to charge them after every gig. Eneloops don’t lose any significant charge whilst not being used... so they’ll be ready to go, even if a gig comes in at late notice.

I use a Mac for all my programming - sorry I can’t be more help - but do let us know how you get on!

No difference really - although the higher voltage may give you more headroom and better reproduction of transients. Anyway, the Trustfire appears to be good... although a tiny bit oversized. It will fit in the Gotoh battery boxes on my basses - but is defo a firm fit where other batteries will quite easily slip in and out. Not a real big issue really though!

There’s more to wireless than just buying a wireless pack and there you go. If wireless is not coordinated properly, likelihood is you’ll have drop outs and interference. The gear you buy greatly influences how many channels of wireless you can run. Id go P2 wired with some ZS10s (without mic version). Will get you a great feed and give you an idea of how IEMs are.

I’d disagree. The Rumour and Spitfire are very similar beasts... especially if you get a neck through Spitfire. The main difference is visual and construction I would say - there’s a lot more laminates involved in a typical Rumour than Spitfire. As Bernie said to me, “you could put my preamp and pickups on a table, string it up and it’ll sound GB - bit of a **** to play mind”

Yeah - it's a pain in the backside. Facebook limits reach quite substantially. I've also noticed that on Instagram... I used to be able to get 100 likes on my posts without any hassle 6 months ago. I still haven't figured FB with all my different pages... and how you expand reach. It's all about interaction - but thats difficult if nobody knows when to interact. Go figure eh? Wide is key - I'm on a load of DSLRs... but the wide angle lenses are all always the ones that get the most use for video. Unfortunately fast and wide glass doesn't come that cheap! All my glass is now 1.4 to 2.8 (or T3.1 for my cine lenses) - thats some significant investment

@mrtcat - saw the fb advert for the next live stream. Nice masking shot for the entry of the *Mandowkr" I'm currently building more electronics to bring more cameras into play for recordings. Want to do more live streams - just need to work out how to make them more engaging. The experiment I did in the top post didn't seem to provide much on the engagement front as it would seem that FB didn't actually annouce that we'd gone live. I think we had more viewing post the event looking at the stats. I'm not up for carrying around and setting up all the equipment without getting the engagement up... so I need to do some thinking. Also, I seem to be spending a lot of time looking on line at lenses!

I have the same with DR Bs as I use a singl 125 with a 40-100 set. Mark at Bass Direct gets me them... but I have to wait and order when he does he bulk ordering.

They kinda work... and they may or may not be your thing. Personally, I think the feedback is in the wrong place. I prefer the Woojer strap placed on the hips. The best solution is a board, like from P&D or Eich - but appreciate they can be a bit cumbersome to carry around.

I wasn’t expecting to get any traction with it - was just trying to get a smirk out of you so that you knew at least one of us was watching. 😉 I like your sound - I think I commented. Reminds me very much of Sister Hazel - which in my book, is not a bad thing at all.