Big_Stu

[quote name='bagsieblue' timestamp='1358890108' post='1946766'] Certainly a grower. Overused term but Bowie is a legend. Slim to no chance I know but would love him to tour. [/quote] Depends what you call a tour I suppose; look at Clapton's - 3 venues and 10 dates IIRC. If he could manage that without charging Rolling Stones prices it'd be a winner.

Moral of the story - guitarists shouldn't get the job of forming bands.

Told him he should have bought my Hiwatt! This is the third time he's brought Crop over, I'm hoping to see them twice this tour at least - amps being well!

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1358863569' post='1946195'] And why are people getting so worked up about it? Maybe in the past when there was a very definite route you had to take as a band in order to "make it" and gigs like this were going to be a necessary evil, done in order to put you in front of the "right" people and get your name about. Nowadays they are totally irrelevant. The music industry has changed, but these "promoters" think that this kind of gig is still important. Pretty soon they are going to find out that they are wrong. [b]Only crap and stupid bands will take them[/b], and it keeps them neatly out of the way. [/quote] Agree with all of this - but would add to that list that (IME) it's almost always very young & in-experienced bands which believe it's their fast-track to fame & stardom. They believe the use of the word "promoter" and being young are still in touch with school-mates or are students who can blag their mates to turn up for them.

[quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1358863812' post='1946201'] Brilliant - how long have you been saving that one up for the perfect moment. Dave[/quote] I used it as a wind up a while ago on a Slade site; Dave Hill being known to most as "H". IIRC it was originally about H from "Steps"??

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1358859890' post='1946093'] Fixed it for you. [/quote] Cheers mate; it was an anagram - nearly.

Maybe it's some actual intellectual artistic irony? In the same vein a Matisse's except they're saying "This is not Pay To Play"............ edit: re fast changeovers; my guess is - as is often the case with such occasions that they expect (read; demand) that there's a fair bit of amp & drumkit loaning going on.

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1358687256' post='1943273'] More importantly, where's the 'H'?[/quote] It died

I wouldn't say it's libel to state a personal opinion. "Commercial" by definition is anything that makes money, or is done with the intent of making money, so I would describe JLS more as exploitative (for reasons already stated) rather than commercial. There's a world of difference between JLS being allegedly "harder-working" than any of the bands/people mentioned by previous posters. I'm fairly sure it would only be gullible kids who would agree with that moniker, even the ones that wrote it would almost certainly be unable to actually say it due to their tongue being very firmly stuck in their cheek.

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1358616668' post='1942308']perhaps forces the monthly mags like BGM to address such types who 'Railway Modeller' once quaintly identified as 'The Average Enthusiast'.[/quote] While searching out a copy of BGM this aft. in Preston WHS - not easy, it was 4 rows back on a shelf, almost full hidden & it was impossible to see from eye level. However.......... in doing so I clocked a copy of "The Airfix Modeller", which IF I'd picked it up for a peruse would have guaranteed numerous "I had one of them"s - but I didn't have the nerve to be seen picking it up.

[quote name='JakeBrownBass' timestamp='1358614792' post='1942265'] Erm, yes they do....[/quote] I'm guessing, from your defending them 3 times now, that you have either already had, or hope to, have work with "the guys" backing band?

[quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1358612821' post='1942213'] Like it. Guitarist used to do a 'my guitar is..' column written by readers as did Guitar & Bass Magazine. They ran for a good many years, in fact they might still do.[/quote] At the risk of being boring and repetitive.......... They also did one on "My amp is...." about my Hiwatt.

Just as a fr'instance; all of these marks written among a proof of text would mean something different to a proof-reader than they would to an average reader... ^ = [ ] There's also things like a triple underline of a word meaning one thing (change it to capitals) & a single underline another (if it's normal roman text make it italic - or vice-versa) ..... whether or not the guys doing the typing at BGM would know those marks without needing an essay in the margin to explain is another question altogether. And yes, much of the shorthand is redundant due to computerisation but there are many places that use it - and some still insist on it. Many newspapers for eg. It'd be interesting to know what rates they have for one-off articles. I'd have, as an example, no qualms for taking my bass to a nearby-ish shop (Dawson's in Manchester since they post on here - or did, as an example) for them to write a review of it. Not for readers to think about buying one but as a Reader's [s]Wives[/s] Bass section. Any other willing BCers would keep such a column going for quite a while.

[quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1358590370' post='1941715']EDIT: BTW I'm pretty sure some BCers would do the proof reading for a free subscription.[/quote] With the best will in the world, how many who would do it for that "rate" of pay that would have the command of English required? If they haven't, they might catch duplicated articles but we may still have howlers like using the word "of" instead of "have" which is very common on this forum. As in "I would of thought that was obvious". If the idea is just to make the mag better than it sometimes is now then that's no basis at all. You'd also have to decide how much of the mag was to be checked, how much is printed as-is on the responsibility of the writer etc etc. Break that amount of reading down into an hourly rate & it'd make minimum wage seem generous. If it's being done as a favour to the magazine as a matter of bassist's pride then IME favours have a habit of falling by the way-side. If Joel has access to all the people needed to produce a magazine at all, then he has access to people who can do it properly - with the right levels of concentration consistently applied. [quote name='Len_derby' timestamp='1358590877' post='1941729']I know you'll be buried under advice/tips but have you spotted the threads about the Charity Bass Relay? Started and led by Jim Ryan of this parish. It could make a great magazine feature, and help raise even more money for a worthy cause.[/quote] Brilliant idea! With a gig review of each band using it to follow it's progress - and give publicity to the band.

Personally I see them - andf their ilk - as nothing more than a watered down version of the vocal groups that have been formed since before Motown. The style of song is flavour of the month just now due to Pop Idol, X factor, BGT (same sh*t, different title), so none of it will be remembered as any form of classic in the realms of Ronettes, Drifters, Four Tops, etc. in the future so all-in-all I don't give it any thought. This is a musicians forum, JLS aren't musicians, they have very little relevance and working musicians on any level, whether they're playing the Frog & Sickbag on Friday or O2 arena they'd give zero credence to this "award".

[quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1358465453' post='1939949'] My most watched DVDs are music ones to be fair... But there are some films that actually get better the more you watch them, things you don't notice the first time around.[/quote] Some are so good at that, that you end using the phrases youself.............erm ...... allegedly........ [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM-G0bkl8MQ[/media]

[quote name='KingBollock' timestamp='1358376887' post='1938341']I know what I need to do to it, I just need to get around to it.[/quote] Don't let that stop you - use mine.............

[quote name='iconic' timestamp='1358460983' post='1939836']I struggle to see where the big money is made in music nowadays?[/quote] Taking advantage of gullible fools mostly

[quote name='spinynorman' timestamp='1358442243' post='1939293']However, I've also read that the big labels don't like the idea of HMV failing and leaving them with iTunes and Amazon. They might prop HMV up, in which case it could limp on for another couple of years.[/quote] The big labels fully expect DVDs to be in the same position in 4 years time as CDs are now, with CDs by then all but gone.

[quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1358439902' post='1939211'] I think the £6.99 might refer to the digital edition..the print one is £425...... [/quote] Maybe that's their way forward? - with a free bass selotaped to the cover instead of a free [s]coaster[/s] CD.

[quote name='silddx' timestamp='1358437343' post='1939145'] You can buy a lot of food for the price of this shoddy magazine. It's not being picky, it's about getting the magazine you deserve for the money you shell out. You'll notice there is never a mistake with the cover price and subscription pages, except they often forget to send people their 'free' goodies according to other threads. [/quote] And if it is indeed £7 a pop then it should be flawless! edit: typo!!

[quote name='Jimryan' timestamp='1358422965' post='1938774'] You could've warned me how difficult to find it is. For one I didn't realise supermarkets had been told to stop selling lighter fluid (just as well I don't smoke/use my zippo anymore). So, after reading online that naphtha can also be bought from painting and decorating stores, I thought I'd try that route. Homebase no good. One builders merchant, nothing. Second builders merchant, had heard of it, was quite helpful, but didn't stock it. Brewers painting and decorating place, never heard of it, doesn't exist. So much for doing that today. I'll try again at the weekend. [/quote] There's one newsagent near me that sells it- or did - I bought the last of his stock of 6 tins of Swan fuel after having the same problems as you. Try your nearest Timpson's shoe repairs, many of them stock Zippo's and the fuel to go with them, but you pay a lot more for the Zippo logo.

[quote name='BassBunny' timestamp='1358371210' post='1938165']So if the printers put the same pages in twice they would have the same page numbers?[/quote] Correct - in the vast majority of cases IME. [quote name='BassBunny' timestamp='1358371210' post='1938165']They haven't. Exactly the same review with different page numbers.[/quote] Then it's as I said originally then, a fairly major (for a magazine) & very basic blunder. I reinstate my "ouch " of an earlier page.

[quote name='Leen2112' timestamp='1358353679' post='1937639'] ......................some o the gadges try to baffle Ye wi the queens English! Cheers Leen [/quote] Away n' raffle!

[quote name='silddx' timestamp='1358358804' post='1937794'] Not that sort of flanger mate. [/quote] Not that sort of Big Muff either mate. Too obvious??