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[quote name='noelk27' timestamp='1358359071' post='1937803'] Can't agree. Page make-up is not done by a printer, it's done in-house by the editorial department or outsourced to a freelancer designer. Irrespective of who carries out page make-up a dummy issue will be reviewed by the editorial department or the editor before sign-off for publication. Duplication of an article is a clear indication of lax or non-existent editorial procedures. The only head on the chopping block for this sort of mistake is the magazine's. [/quote] No, but page imposition is. Not having seen it I have to go off what's been said here & it's absolutely identical in it's duplication???. (an easy test is if the page folios are duplicated too, if they are then it's more likely the printer, if they read on as they should then chances are it's the designer) Like I said, that depends on who prints it. It may be that all of the magazine's procedures were followed, but if a comp in the printers (or more than one if it's a big place) puts the same pages in twice, the magazine would be none the wiser until they get their press copy. With modern imposition software it's very easily done. Saw it more times than I should over the years.

[quote name='BassBunny' timestamp='1358350853' post='1937548']Whilst proof reading every word is a pain, (but a necessity IMHO), a quick flick through the mag would have spotted this error in seconds.[/quote] To be fair, and on reflection of my contempt earlier - and assuming it's outsourced to a printer & not done in-house. It's more a printer's error that the magazine's; the bloke who imposed the pages must have been asleep. Though "print & be damned, we'll catch it on the reprint" is still a common tactic at many large printers, who deserve to suffer the consequences. I once worked at a printer's near Edinburgh that ran 1000's of calendars for The Scotsman. One of the adverts in it for Edinburgh biggest taxi firm, read "NO contract work", which I thought strange and queried with our sales. Boss says "Run it, we'll get more money off the reprint - it'll be a rush job". I was outraged & sales found out it should have read "NO surcharges on contract work". Rather than get the reprint they lost the contract, they still did it to other customers though, leaving it wide open to take-over and closure.- which is what happened.

I use Gibson polish which a mate in the US sends to me cost they don't (last time I checked) sell it here now. Simlar to the pump spray one but without the lemon in it. I once used that, ignored the instructions, & just sprayed it straight onto the bass, it put a bloody big scorch mark in the finsh which took ages to polish out. The US one has a lot of wax content & smells just like the first tin of it I bought in 1979.

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1358264621' post='1935922']a local cafe in my old home town only have 1*[/quote] I think that means it's only slightly safer than eating off the pavement outside.

"Nuts!" [size=2]General Anthony Clement McAuliffe, December 22nd 1944.[/size]

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1358264163' post='1935901']Should we have a star rating like the hygiene people do? [/quote] Don't know about that, I top flight restaurant near me "only" got a 4 instead of the expected 5 so the owner shut it down instantly.

I think Bluejay mentioned it, can't remember if it was her idea though.

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1358263293' post='1935866'].............still discussing a shop that is aware of the original thread and is dealing with a members purchase[/quote] I still don't know which shop it was under discussion, I don't care that much. BUT......................... ........ remember it was talked about making up window stickers for music shops that are "BassChat Approved"? Will there be one for "Recognising Service Above & Beyond The Call Of Duty"?

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1358261688' post='1935804']WoT, in particular, gave the OP a bit of a cross-examination in order to get closer to the facts and separate them from the opinions. I think he was acting in our interests in doing so, but can see how others might take the OP's side and think he was going a bit far.[/quote] I think his own diagnosis on how he appeared to be was fairly spot on.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1358253794' post='1935574'] Some facts, some opinion, some argument, a small potential for being regarded as libellous... sounds like a lot of the threads on here! What I am uneasy with is the idea of the OP getting sick of a thread and asking mods to hide/remove it. Thin end of the wedge and all that. [/quote] I reckon someone's already nailed it in the partner thread to this one. I'd never seen a compensated nut up close like that, so I reckon MM20 assumed the step on the G was broken & told it wasn't. The "blemish" polished out, so there was a whole lot of egg looking for a face to occupy. Just a theory.

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1358252751' post='1935525'] Yes, but if you have a contract, how can they argue that it isn't valid? [/quote] They don't, they just stall for time before it goes to court, then have legal hitch after legal hitch causing postponements. All that time the small guy's bank is racking up the charges on the loans, overdrafts etc. until they won't wait for payments any longer or get worried they'll ever be repaid & pull the plug. Job done.

Top flight lawyers.

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1358251669' post='1935470'] Aye, C U next tuesday's is the appropriate term. It's ruthless, and i would be looking for the good order first, then letting them have the really cheap stuff after that, and a contract to supply. [/quote] Contracts won't matter to them, this guy had one. Independent supplier in court against a horde of QCs that he'd be up against. It'd be farting against thunder.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1358250128' post='1935424'] So the content of a thread remains the intellectual property of the thread starter? They get to decide when a thread should be pulled?? Not sure about that at all. [/quote] I can see the point. [s]When[/s] If it turns out that there's nothing wrong with the nut and some who made [i]liberal use of their oars[/i] in the "discussion" have more or less named the shop, which may well have an alternative and plausible version of events then BC could be on shakey ground as carrier of any alleged libel. Worse than that - the shop may even be an agent for Rickenbacker.

[quote name='oggiesnr' timestamp='1358250127' post='1935423']PS it's also often the case that the loss is not being made by the supermarket but the supermarket has twisted a supplier's arm to supply at below cost price, usually by holding out the promise of more trade (or under the threat of not renewing a contract if they don't play ball). [/quote] I know a guy who had that done to him by a high st supermarket who lost everything due to it, business, house, marriage the lot. They held off payment for so long that he went under!

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1358249703' post='1935407'] Can somebody explain to me please what a loss leader is? [/quote] Something a shop sells at a loss or break-even hoping/expecting that once the customer is in the shop they'll stick around and buy other stuff at prices that do make profit. Supermarkets are very good at it, especially if they're over-stocked on a particular item.

[quote name='urb' timestamp='1358244953' post='1935295'][i]"The three greatest threats to HMV are, online retailers, downloadable music and supermarkets discounting loss leader product". [/i][/quote] It's 100% this; I had two stints at working in the studio of the printer who did CD & DVD covers for almost all of the biggest companies. The first time I was there the runs were large (ie., high quantities compared to now) & all of the names were the big names. 2nd time around (up until early last year) the runs were much less due to downloads & general drop in sales & I saw on a weekly basis covers I had seen being made, in supermarkets that would have cost more to print than the price being charged. It didn't help that the disc manufacture was moved to Europe, from literally across the road from where the covers were made, while the covers were still being done here, marrying the two together would logistically impossible to make money on. The shop does make the biggest wedge out of the price of a disc, followed by royalties (IIRC). The supermarkets can use them as a loss-leader, HMV couldn't - especially if they had to charge competitively with what supermarkets were charging; which is why they went into extras, T-shirts, headphones etc but it didn't turn them around enough.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1358239749' post='1935184'] OK, I'm a bit slow in the mornings, but I can't seem to find the long-running thread about the missing/damaged MM Bongo today? Has it been deleted? [/quote] Usually when I can't find a thread I know I posted in recently I'll go to "My Posts" & find it that way, I don't have any posts from that thread in "My Post" so my guess is that it's not been deleted - it's been nuked! Fair do's though, it had served it's purpose, or not, but it had gone as far as it was going to.

Ouch! I worked 25 years in design for print, including magazine/book work, writing, QC, proof-reading the whole nine yards. That would definitely be a "pick a windae, you're leaving" situation.

I saw what the general consensus took to be a Warmoth Strat in a junk shop window a few weeks ago. The figuring & burr on it was simply immense, I really don't like Strats generally but that was one gorgeous machine. It didn't last a full day in the shop before it was bought. Not a hope in hell of any Squier looking as good as that did.

[quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1358021671' post='1932080']Two identical reviews of a Fender acoustic bass in this month's issue...[/quote] As in - the exact same copy duplicated, or two models of bass so similar that the reviews more or less read the same? If it's the former then that's unforgiveable, & a massive breakdown in QC. An odd para yes, but a whole article?

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1357927575' post='1930809'] Don't forget [b]we've heard it all before[/b], so we don't judge anyone. Just be yourself. [/quote] I've been known to give it "Purple Haze" with the OD full on?

The last one I tried n bought it was Merry Xmas Everybody which was appropriate for the time, last time was a long time before then wasn't in a shop but in JayDee's workshop after he rewired my bass - where I'd just discovered that in the recent past he'd had Mark King Jimmy Lea & Tony Iommi in as visitors, the thought of any comparisons being made between their abilities and mine made my fingers instantaneously change into a pack of Captain Birdeye's finest.

There was one sold on US Ebay a while ago for $51. At the current exchange rate that means that a new set of strings is %-wise a major investment in it.

[quote name='fumps' timestamp='1357825918' post='1929022']I'm seriously considering OldG's idea of the stickerbomb finish......hmmm fun ! [/quote] That's nearly as bad an idea as putting fake Gibson logo on it & telling everyone it's a vintage TV Yellow.