Conan

To a very limited extent - Phil Lynott Yes, I know that the majority of his work was great, [i][b]but[/b][/i].... [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvKb13Z9gg0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvKb13Z9gg0[/url] and [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhAmA_ILgl4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhAmA_ILgl4[/url]

If you do your research it is much harder to be "conned". On the other hand, there will always be gullible people with more money than sense who buy expensive stuff just because it is expensive. I makes a statement about them.

[quote name='gareth' timestamp='1442864489' post='2870135']I don't see many Just, Sandberg, Lakland, Sadowsky or Wals. But I do see an awful lot of Fenders. [/quote] Which becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. Lots of Fenders about, so lots of aspiring bassists see them and think they are the instruments to own. Imitation is, after all, the sincerest form of flattery. Don't get me wrong - I like Fenders, and have owned a few (down to just two now, if you include Squier!) but sometimes I would like to see a bit more variety and recognition that there can be (and are) different solutions to the same problems...

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1442396157' post='2866571'] What we really need is for a chain of Charity Shops to launch their own brand of P-bass ... [/quote] Naaah... surely that kind of cheap publicity stunt would be seen through be the educated Basschat members?

[quote name='ead' timestamp='1442838700' post='2869849'] I recently acquired a Jazz bass... a lot of the music I grew up with was played on them. [/quote] I suspect that is a big part of the appeal. We are used to hearing (and seeing) Fenders. Just watch any of the BBC's reruns of music from the sixties onwards, and virtually every bassist will be using a P or a J (usually in 3TSB, but's that's another story!)

[quote name='bassjim' timestamp='1442835285' post='2869797']are they overpriced? i can only go by the american deluxe range as i think these are up against the higher priced basses. even here they are a bargain. ie: 2 grand plus vrs approx £1500.00 they have exactly the right machinery so they consistently get it right. sure there will be some duff ones but these will be less so. [/quote] I'm confused. Are you saying that they are consistent, or not? Of course, every piece of wood is unique (even from the same tree), but getting things like string alignment and how well the neck fits into its pocket wrong is very poor on instruments at this price point (even MIM basses). And comparing USA Deluxe fenders with bespoke, handmade "boutique" basses is like comparing apples with oranges. Different market altogether (IME). The Fenders (even Custom Shop to a certain extent) are mass-produced by machines. As such they are (IMO) overpriced - even allowing for shipping, import duties and so on.

[quote name='vaesto' timestamp='1442823037' post='2869625'] The pickup itself has a label "ABP-1". And some people say it is Tonerider OEM. In any case stock PU is very decent vintage sounding pickup. [/quote] Sorry for my ignorance, but - OEM??

Quite a few people have talked about "upgrading" the pickup on these basses - but does anyone know what the stock PU is? The Fender/Squier website isn't particularly helpful! It sounds OK mind... I'm just interested

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1442579201' post='2867943']"Solid" without any other positive adjectives should not be what we aspire to. [/quote] As bass players, we need to be careful to what we aspire...

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1442571597' post='2867848'] Many years ago the band I was in went into the studio, and the engineer remarked to the singer "your bassist is really solid, he keeps the songs together really tight". I was really chuffed with that, especially as he had played bass with a very well known pop band in the 80s. Getting a comment like that from a pro made my day so to speak. [/quote] Cool! Who was it? If it was Leigh Gorman I'll be well impressed!!

I'd prefer "awesome" or "incredible"... but that's not going to happen (while I'm awake, anyway). "Solid" works for me

I didn't know they offered 24 fret necks as an option! That's me now [b][i]very[/i][/b] interested... Lovely bass BTW

[quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1442427823' post='2866928'] [/quote] I love the way that pic makes the Midget look HUGE!!!!

I've never heard of anyone having a bad experience with Spector and PJ in particular. Other companies take note!

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1442312712' post='2865911']I suggest a couple of rugs to lay over the mess on stage... [/quote] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt016gTNp_k

Some of us were genuinely trying to be helpful...

[quote name='bassman7755' timestamp='1441969933' post='2863339'] No generally. It all revolves around how you want to sound to disperse. When you put speakers in grid, you get upper mid/high frequency cancellation everywhere except being directly in front of it. Put speakers in a line and you get cancellation only in the direction of the line, which is why you see vertical arrays of speakers at concerts - to minimise cancellation in the horizontal plane. [/quote] I knew someone would bite...!

That's cool Pete! No problem there I'd just be really interested to hear your reasons for preferring 2x10 cabs over others, and why you are determined to avoid the "boutique" manufacturers. But I'm just nosey!

I like the look and sound of these. Very well built judging by the appearance in the videos... interesting!

What an odd thread! I'm confused now.

[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1441831933' post='2862226']A stack of 4, vertical, would take little room and might be pretty cool. I'd love to try that configuration at least. [/quote]To get the best from the speakers, don't you need to have then in a 4x10 arrangement? Like the four corners of a square?

I was going to suggest a clone of my current set-up, as it would appear to tick all of your boxes... but then you say you don't want Markbass or "boutique" (whatever that means!). My LMII into two 8 ohm Bergantino HS210s would seem to be you perfect rig. It certainly works for me Any reason for the dislike of MB amps? I like clean and simple, and I've tried a few in the last year or so. The MB give me the tonal control I want without any unnecessary features (I leave the filters alone!). It certainly sounds good through the Bergs.