oldslapper

Really didn't mean to cause offence. Just trying to be honest based on my own experiences. I don't think I ever heard anyone actually challenge another musician about practicing their instrument, or studying songwriting craft. Just smiling sweetly and saying nothing whilst their fellow musicians don't develop. Ive toured and recorded with some wonderful players within the UK church scene, and most of them play outside of that scene professionally. I just feel that theirs an imaginary glass ceiling that needs to be shattered through being honest, and helping one another provide a wider and fuller "pallette", if that makes sense.? Probably doesn't....I need coffee.

Laziness, plain and simple, accepting whatever's offered. Very frustrating. When writers like Shearing, Porter, etc can write singable, memorable melodies with interesting chord changes and well thought out lyrics, but the church settles for cliche. I stopped playing in church a while ago as I got frustrated with predictable chord changes and unimaginative lyrics. Also for decades the UK church has invested in all sorts of campaigns and initiatives, but very little in training it's musicians. Music is a high priority within services, but musicianship isn't. Sorry to moan, but the church should be nurturing the most creative of environments.

Slightly amended.......... [quote name='cytania' timestamp='1318659525' post='1404844']Raise your hand and repeat after me. 'This is my bass (THIS WEEK) There are many like it but this one is mine (UNTIL I TRADE IT) I picked it out of the many and I like the way it sounds (AT THE MOMENT) Others (OTHER HALVES) may not understand it, but (I WILL QUICKLY) not like the way it looks, not like it's action or it's neck or it's tuners or it's pickups... but this is (THIS WEEKS') bass and I will (NOT) practice (BUT WILL) gig with it and sweat with it until I (SELL IT) This I swear.' Thank you, now call me Leonard Pyle![/quote]

"Plucks"..........some people call them "plucks"...... "Core tone".....that annoys me, oh hold on, that's on here isn't it, sorry...:-(

[quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1318411803' post='1401677']Loving the Whale's old P-bass, strangely when Ghostpoets were playing I thought 'they could do with a bass player!' PS: I didn't realise Noah & The Whale had Phil Lynott on drums & Jarvis Cocker on guitar [/quote] I love their drummer. If I was a drum teacher, I'd put a video of him playing and say " that's how to play and when to hit the snare..on the 2 & 4, and make it sound like a shot gun crack...forget yer tarty flim/flam, girly, salad tossing, just hit the @%#*+% thing. I really enjoyed Jools last night, even the "ramones-a-like" band, can't remember their name, sorry.

What isn't there to like about this band? Really nice bunch of guys to work with. Good players. Regular gigs Good set list.....mustang Sally does NOT appear anywhere. Rehearsal space Own van Good gear No silly ego problems. Someone's gonna be a happy bunny getting this gig.

Lee bought some strings from me. No problems, good comms and a pleasure to deal with, many thanks, John

Route 66?

Thanks Andy. 4 PAGES! Aaaagh this has to stop.

Andy bought a G&L 5 string from me. Paid very quickly and was a gent throughout. Deal with confidence. Cheers, John

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1317886847' post='1395700']Not sure anyone is upset/toys out of the pram.... we are just piling into a thread to make the place look active. If we don't have activity and opinions..the place will get pretty boring and deserted soon.[/quote] It's ok, I've had coffee now. Although I'm very upset that no ones upset, it's very upsetting.

.........it's all just entertainment FGS. Kate Bush had an image which added some intrigue, which helped sales. Nina simone had an image which added........................ Jessie J has an............................................... Lady G has................... Madonna................... They all have varying levels of musical talent...But all had/have talent to entertain, and all will have worked with some fab bass players. Why do some people get so upset about other people's success?.....soooooo British.

[quote name='owen' timestamp='1317804898' post='1394657'] It would be a different flavour.[/quote] Absolutely, I'd love to try one out. Unfortunately we live in the middle of nowhere so no NS dealers for miles. Be interested in seeing if anyone here ends up with one, and posting some samples. Love the look of that DB in your avatar btw :-)

[quote name='BeowulfKingsley' timestamp='1317791070' post='1394547']It seems that the only real difference between the fretted version of this instrument and an electric bass is the fact that the fingerboard is rounded enough to bow. It'll be a different instrument altogether, and only you can decide whether it's gonna be a voice you can use. Hey, it might be great![/quote] That's more like it......I would approach it as an instrument in it's own right, as BK has said. I love the idea of different approaches to instrument design and playing. If you are thinking that it would have a "traditional" double bass, eub tone, then I'd very much doubt it, too much metal... If you are thinking that it's a way of achieving accurate intonation, with an upright tone, then I'd get one of the NS range as I believe they have position markers up the neck. I saw a brilliant player the other night, he had stickers on the front of his DB board as positional markers, fab player, nice tone too...used a PJB combo, couldn't see the pickup though.

Paul's a top bloke, played with some great artists, great teacher too.