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Agree..... there are a few places that I can't use the DB750.... as it just pumps it out there. What is a good ( perceived ) mix close in is dominating the room. There is no bass hiding as it is right out there and knocking down walls. This sounds like a good idea and fun but it serves no real good purpose to the overall band sound and mix. This is also why I say you can have too much bass...

What do you drive the 112 and 212 with, Chris, and are they the same impedance so the split is equal..?? I ask...because I like to use a DB210 and DB212 at 8 each and I think I can hear the DB210 bottom out and therefore I tend not to carry this rig. Of course, I could nulify that with 2xDB210 and a DB212 but just don't have the gigs that warrant that often enough, but at least the amp will run down that low. The amp delivers 700w into 4 and 950 into 2... I might just have to man up and take that beast rig out just for giggles...but the rig generally has too much oomph for small venues and pubs... it rattles the back walls and turns the drummer green... and the 212 is more than enough 99% of the time anyway...

Well, you have to be reasonable and expect bass to be light on laptops and mobiles .... unless plugged into extentions. Anyone making a decision on the basis of that clearly doesn't have much of a clue and you could end up getting more problems off them that is worth the hassle. IME But there is no substitue for people checking you out live, it is just that online media is a short cut that some have/want to take. I think the 'tell it like it is' is the best way to avoid 'misunderstandings and we get more issues with 'agents' trying to keep our cost down, and presumably increase their end, and then turning up and thinking this is not a gig we wanted or should do. It is all comes down to knowing who you can trust...and that includes agents/promoters, P.A, engrs, lighters and venues themselves. So... FB is a tool to help but not to replace real legwork. You can BS to get the gig but you will get found out if your spiel is way off .. The number of status updates you get..'place was rammed, we smashed it' and the gig pics show the band rocking... but with a complete absence of punters in shot. We've all been to those gigs...

Well, Sims has a name for working at the higher end of markets IMO, so when he showed me the samples, I wasn't exactly sure it would work. But the option across the road really wasn't an option at all and the colour was too red, and I needed Sims to make me another clear plate as well, so I had them make both as they needed to be custom made anyway When I saw the end result on the bass..... it couldn't have worked better, so in view of the work they do and the clients they have, I trusted they could see something I couldn't initially. The tort on the white J5 looks so good, that that bass gets more comments than the quilted maple bass which is stunning in itself, IMO.

You DO need to get that cranked...

I think it is such an easy trick you'd be stupid not to have and use one. Bookers need a quick reference at times and if they can do FB, Website or youtube then it saves so much time and effort. I think they earn so much money and come into their own when a friend of a friend points them our way and they haven't seen us. We point them to these sites and tell them that that is what we do and that is what they will get. A lot of people can blag gigs, for sure, but we would rather back up any rhetoric with an audilo or video link. People want to know you are worth what you are asking and I wouldn't book any band 'blind'

I've said before I don't like 1st come, 1st served as altho' it is an admirable stance, some players will do the gigs they want to do and it probably isn't fair... or even advisable, to hold them to the Dog and Duck gig for £50's when a far better gig comes by. This causes resentment and may well be the start of a parting of the ways. Far better to be reasonable or as much as you can and get to know how a guy works. You'll find a way to accomodate and you'll find the guys that play fair if you do the same. Of course, you don't want an out and out dick or ego but blowing out a very prestigous gig for someone is not going to help your own cause. Be honest, who is going to turn down a REALLY good gig to play with your mates in a pub and tbf, would they really expect you too. It is better to work with really busy players with a good profile and let them go with your best wishes when they pull down a a really nice gig which befits their talent

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1393510674' post='2381213'] This is all very silly. You guys are the cause of your own problems. Use deps. I’ll send the bill. My consultancy fees are very reasonable. [/quote] but not his dep rates

Depends on lots of things...I wouldn't be chancing/trusting/considering it unless I knew the P.A and engrs. That little box is not going to be enough if the band is loud on stage. The drummer and gtr on any size stage will not hear it and you'll have to wind it up to get a really whiney nasally sound which is just not a feel good factor on any sort of gig, AFAIAC... This all means that you will need decent monitors which the bass can go thru... so unless you have 4 mixes on the mon mix, don't even consider this is worth a chance, IMO/IME. You may get away with 2 mixes but then that really questions what sort of P.A they have anyway, IMO and one of those mixes is going to be geared for the vox..and rightly so, and the other will have to be compromise mix for the rest of the backline.... So, a quick call to the engr and telling him you want 4 full range mon mix with everything back at you and see what he says... Engrs don't actually like to promise this as their gear isn't always up to it..and that is ok..as long as you know and then you can decide accordingly.

Eden .... 1st choice, no question.

Nice idea to say1st come 1st served but bigger/better gigs trump that... or will over any period of time. IMO We wont book pub dates on a sat in the summer as we can get a minimum 3 times as much elsewhere. Like it or not..... money will be a factor here for some.... To me, a good gig isn't all about the money, it is about being a good gig... to others a good gig is DEFINED by the money. You have to be reasonable and get your deps up to speed...

Pleased the cab is doing it.. but surprised about 1st cab that can do bottom end comment..???

No problem with them getting the exes..just wondered why he couldn't ask you himself..? and if he can't be bothered with that, he really should be expecting to bring his own. If you don't like the deal... I would be saying that the bass amp isn't going to be able to stay for the duration of the gig for whatever reason you care to come up with.

I keep hearing that Jake Bugg is going to be the next big thing, but from the stuff I've seen, I don't get it. I've not seen him live but then nothing is grabbing me enough to go and do that either. His songs fall short but I think the PR is doing really well. Good luck to the guy ..but I don't think he stood a hope in hell's chance of keeping his backup guys. They knew..or should have known, that the record company and management would drop them as soon as poss...nothing has changed there.

[quote name='GreeneKing' timestamp='1393105703' post='2376346'] ?? So which one was awful? [/quote] WD. complete indistinct mush.

As far as the OP is concerned, I think you'd confuse a lot of people if you used the mantle 12 bar blues with any of those songs... The sequence needs to be 12 bar and the genre blues or bluesy.... For the term to be any use and mean anything it needs to be recognisable. You couldn't say it is a 12 bar blues and count it in and get anywhere hear to hearing that from people who understood the music... And if you did use the term 12 bar blues for a song, you'd also have to tell the band it was a shuffle or swinger etc ...plus the key..

I had a tort plate fitted a while back and WD and Sims are next door to each other. One did a plate for £20-30 and the other cost £70. There is a WORLD of difference between the 2 and you should see the plate in person as catalogues just don't show it... As good as one was, the other was digustingly awfully IMV.

snappy bassline....like it and can forgive the rest which is pretty awful Hope he got a lot of money for it..........

Full up on the volume and I can then add bass, treble or mid vol during a song if I need it... not really going for this for much more than a stop gap as that isn't the tone i started with... If I need more volume, I go to the amp at the end of the song... I set the stage volumes against hearing myself through the drums and rest of the band. The good thing here is that no one is racing to be the loudest so it is just a question of mix...

What I read from this is that Marco is still very much in charge of the company even though production has moved to Indonesia. I would take comfort that whilst he remains in charge and keeps the accountants at bay, then you still have the same ethos that people bought into and made the company what it was... When companies generally.... not talking about Markbass here, I stress, move Ops abroad, it is a shareholders/partners decision to minimise costs and the head honcho takes a back seat and quietly retires at some point. They have basically sold the company and retain a figurehead position only but this may not be the correct thread and there needs to be another one for a generalisation like this....

New members create new dynamics and takes the band in another direction. Whether this is a good thing or bad thing depends if you picked the guy to able to go forward and if you didn't then you may well have signed the death nell of the band anyway.. And it doesn't/shouldn't matter whether you are a originals or covers... If you don't use some sort of intepretaion in the band, then you play by numbers which is never that interesting to see....

No, I am pretty sure I made the right decisions. Certain, in fact, and I don't turn back.

[quote name='largo' timestamp='1392808249' post='2372902'] I may be reading this the wrong way but are you saying we shouldn't believe the specifications given on websites? [/quote] No, in a clumsy way, I am saying that we should accept the specs as described and ..like me.. have a private view of what that all really means. Not dissect a manufacturer's remit TOO much on a public forum otherwise they may not hurry back and we chase away a valuable resource.. There is a balance is all I am saying. IMO.

I think it is very good that a very good name manufacturer comes on here and spends time answering questions but I feel BC tends to milk this and wants to poke its nose into manufacturing and commercial decisions that frankly aren't its business and the maker might not want to disclose either. Tech specs are one thing but take them at face value and try not to scare the guys off. We've done it before with bass names so try and not make this a place to avoid. I just think having established a line of comms, we then ask too much If we respect the kit, then realise this is a business decsion and judge accordingly and you'll buy or you wont but other makers don't come here for the scrutiny and its a fine line between decent PR and chasing the few that do come here, away................ just my 2p...

Agree. You have a couple of power leads to cater for, but it is only a lead run... You may even benefit once or twice by spreading the power load away from the power amp of a passive set up. It is a non issue as far as I can see. As per most P,A's I hear, I think QSC active cabs are quite a benchmark to beat, within their budget...and the only thing I heard was a pr of Martin ICT500's which were far heavier, that were comparable in terms of sound and what you could put through them with ease. I think you have to spend a LOT more to get much better...so much so that most bands can't afford or justify the difference.