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I'd charge £25 per hr, but you'd also be considerate of many many factors. If the band use it well, it will be money well spent and they could split the cost over many years of use.

[quote name='Gully35' timestamp='1368362713' post='2076064'] Is the micro VR with 210av x 2No. Loud enough to cope with a drummer and 2 guitarists? That would be a good option If it was. I'm kind of swaying towards a Markbass Little Mark iii. I'm struggling to find 2 good quality 2x10 cabs to pair with it. Easier for me to move around than a 4x10. The markbass cabs seem to get bad press online, plus they are pretty expensive. [/quote] I've heard this rig ( VR and 2x210AV ) struggle on average volume gigs... it had a horrible distorted buzz of a sound with no oomph at all. I would have put the bad signal down to the SG bass had the amp/cab sounded like it had any guts. If you are going to hear it I'd definitely want to wind it up and hear what it could do. If you must have Ampeg, the Portaflex unit was nice ...but I could only get it to shop level. As far as volume goes... the EQ is the EQ ( limited ) and you better like it,.... the SVT3 and 410 ticks a lot of people's boxes. Not capable of a sophisticated sound, IMO, but then that is not Ampeg anyway.

[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1400512468' post='2454494'] So where do you do these tribute gigs in the nude? [/quote] I may wear sunglasses as a concession to a Blues Bro gig

Have to agree, I don't think you'll need the subs with that line-up for much stuff indoors. Outdoors is another deal altogther, IMO. If I was going to run an active P.A and run subs at every gig... I'd probably wouldn't want any bigger than 10" tops

Yep... I am well passed just having to get out there for the sheer love of it. I'll do the gig if it is interesting and they look after you well enough. I'd do a few tribute dates as long as I didn't have to pretend too hard or wear any clothes, but then a decent covers band can get good money and good gigs so I have no need for tributes. Our tribute band just isn't that exclusive to any one act...

Was thinking about this last night. We have a special gig planned and I think a horn section will top it off. Trouble is we can't use them in the entire set...and so they will be expensive per song.. Really keen on the idea tho and I know the one I want isn't working that day... hmmmm

Here you are [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIK9D1-WGf4"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIK9D1-WGf4[/url]

She's great. Get the whole Live DVD... well worth it, IMO. Band sounds fab on it...Peter Stroud's slide is superb.

Don't have a problem with them, they are either decent or they aren't. Seen a good Oasis tribute... and the only problem was the amount of songs they could play. I always thought Oasis had plenty of hits but I didn't recognise a few in the 60 min set..?? There are a couple fo Floyd bands round here that promise too much and deliver too little... I think you have to be careful with bands you 'tribute'..as it is ALL about recognsiable songs and doing them very well, IMO

[quote name='Handwired' timestamp='1400278919' post='2452666'] Crazy, why don't they make it clearer. [/quote] Yes... I've used them and like them, but this is something they could push more...? Or maybe they don't see they need to..?? Good deal for the OP though,

The point here is that you can have too much EQ flying about... I tend to use the active for the additional signal gain...and a bit more of what it will do passively. I don't go for a wildly different sound and I don't go for masses of bass or top ..and I don't want to tie myself up in knots with the amp countering that the bass pre is doing. I start from the idea that the passive sound is what I want...and if in a live situation, if isn't quite cutting it, then I switch in the onboard on the bass and adjust that...a tad. I thought John East did a simple drop in unit. I have a Tone Hammer which is good but I don't use it. I carry it as an emergency DI

[quote name='NancyJohnson' timestamp='1400265401' post='2452495'] OK, perhaps I didn't put that right, so let me put things into perspective. The guitarist in Nancy Johnson plays with a tone at the very phat end of the frequency - so much so that live there appears (to my ears) to be significant crossover from both our instruments. I have tried to go the route of 'owning your frequency', but we always tend to be to differ...I've twiddled with the knobs on his amp (SG/Bugera head and 4x12), but there's s fine line between full on rawk \m/ and AM radio coming out of his set up. If anything, my desired tone (a kind of Geddy Lee/Jean Jacques Burnel grunt/fuzz hybrid), sits in a higher and wider range than the guitar. I can hear everything without issue, but find the guitar muddies a lot of the nuances of my technique/sounds. Incidentally, the official technical spec of the cabinets (Hartke Hydrive 1x15 and 4x10 enclosures) gives that the 4x10 potentially delivers 10Hz more low end than the 1x15, which i find a little unfathomable, but I suppose reflects why the 4x10 gets nights out and the 1x15 tends to stay home alone. P [/quote] It seems that you have ideas of the sound that are fundementally different...how close you can get depends on how willing you both are to put band context before personaly preference. I tend to think that powerful humbuckers of gtrs are dangerouns in the 'wrong' hands as they tend to flood the sound too much. I think it far easier/preferable to start thin. This is also what has kept Fender basses are the top of the game for so long and why, still, they get the vast majority of pro gigs...buth that is another arguement. Basically the gtr needs to recognise that you are THE bass. A simple way to draw attention to this...and this is a FAIL with so many bands I see... try a simple gtr and bass chugging pattern with drums and see at what point the bass becomes swamped by the gtr. I'd say the band is getting this wrong if swamped 20-30ft away and going thru the P.A compounds the problem. He is going to have to hear this himself...but if it can't be resolved, and it is your band, he may have to go. This is one of the things I use to pick the gtr in our units...that along with the style that the band requires. But then once you get this picky, you are asking for pretty neat gtr players, And that brings a whole set of others issues. The up side is that a decent paying gig can attract an awful lot of very good players as some of the rates that people go for in 'big' name bands today, is, frankly, ridiculous

15's have always felt slower to me... so you don't tend to get the sound jump out at you.. Some might call this bite... but I don't feel that is the right description as it has connetations with a frequency, ...I prefer to hear the speed of attack. It may well be the speed the cone can move at. When I think and hear my 12" and 10" cabs... both the same model type, but different chassis sizes, I like the weight of 'attack' of the 12's...and can live with that as a standalone unit, for sure, but the 10's are sharper and faster sounding. This is most noticeable or even only noticeable up the higher end where you are asking the speaker to produce a fast sharp response. It is this nuance that I think can detect. If you are getting a predominantely bassier sound, then this would tend to muddle the waters quite a bit.. I will pay more attention to this when I next take out the 212 and put the 210 on top of it...as then the difference is right there and then. I have done this a few times recently and been very happy with the sound, even to the point that a year ago... the 2x210 was the way to go... then the 212 was..and now I run both for a biggish stage, and I get strong mids come through everything and also get the fast attack of the 10's to compliment ... I have gotten pretty good at getting the higher end of a cab working quite quickly ( for my sound goals ) as I like to do a few things that asks a lot of the rig. Things that I need to speak, many players I know aren't concerned with..or don't even want to consider...or just don't. I need or want every little flick and 'catch' and harmonic and they need to come across over quite a full band sound.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1400160053' post='2451308'] On this, yes. And your point is? [/quote] Just wondering, that is all. I've never worried about it when I feel I am right.

If that is the case...prices are dropping, then that takes a little wind out of the sales... Still, overall, not in favour of diluting a product/brand. Good luck to them, with their new business model

Cool.

Of course it is his decision, he isn't the first, will not be the last... but that decision does impact on the users/buyers and they may.. as I do.. feel that there is a price to pay. Their/our money will be paid and their/our choices will be made. He can't, and I am sure he isn't, be unaware of that. I have never been in love with Markbass myself, soundwise... but respected that they had a quality and a local build ethic. In general, I am against outsourcing ...so I don't like to see leading names go east and I will buy all my kit from the west.. as far as I can. All my basses and amps and cabs are made either in the U.K or America. I'll pay a premium for that IF they deliver, which I think they do, or otherwise I wouldn't have them, of course. I am not trying to make the point that the far east can't make great products but the west could outsource everything and then where does that leave you? I am sorry Markbass is in the firing line, others have had the same for the same reason, but these business decisions tend not to be for the end user, they tend to be for the 'shareholders', IMO.

Well, it doesn't matter, I've posted them so I'll certainly stand by them.

I have found some active Yam DSR12's to use as subs. As long as they aren't completely flaccid...and by most accounts, they really aren't then for the price, these need a careful look...

[quote name='stevie' timestamp='1400056183' post='2450183'] Raising your cab off the ground is never a great idea because you lose the extra low-end efficiency you get from coupling with the floor. If your problem is hearing yourself, tilting the cab up slightly so that the sound is directed to your ears is a better option IMO. [/quote] Yep...agree, not something I ever want to do, Positioning of the cab is the one thing and you don't have to get too close to other big sound sources. For example, I don't want the keys stack near me... ... and then I learn to play with a sound that doesn't need so much bass. The bass never lacks bottom but some ppl just don't give themselves much chance by running or wanting too much bass and then having situations where they have to get rid of it. If your sound has clarity and the band are sensible with their EQ, hearing yourself should n't be an issue either

Understand all that... but you are talking about the sound but I feel I could tell from the response of the speaker. There is a certain something I can get out of a 10, that I can't get out of a 15'.. the horn element blurs it to a degree... 12's typically muddle the waters..... Would be an interesting 'test'

I've never liked the idea of pacific rim production... particuarly when our high st prices isn't reflected in the savings to the manufacturing costs. I don't know their product line and prices well enough to know whether the prices have gone down but that is the real reason why most people buy fridges and washers from China because they are dirt cheap. If you don't get that benefit, then Markbasses own words back in 2009 are quite damning, IMO.

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1400074238' post='2450465'] Bah! They only give the Super12 a 94% rating and the Midget T a 97% rating. Pathetic review. Completely fails to complain about finish, handles or feet. Doesn't mention how much better all the competition is. Manages to avoid using words like [i]fanboi [/i]or cheerleader. Instead, they have the temerity to write a genuinely impartial review based on the quality of these bass cabs when used as bass cabs. Hopeless. Call that journalism? [/quote] And you think my thoughts and comments partial..?