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A measly 2 from me.. [color="#FF00FF"][size=5]1556[/size][/color]

Most of them are owned by collectors over at the Hamer Fan Club Forum. Incredibly sought after & everyone who's played one raves about it. Most of them are more "80s hair metal" looking than that - the bass was originally designed for Kip Winger.

[quote name='Waldo' post='526377' date='Jun 27 2009, 11:04 PM']That's strange, I'm seeing you post the same thing at 10:45 and then at 10:50 Has the forum just broken or something?[/quote] It went a bit weird around the time of those posts - lots of posts dropped out for a couple of minutes & when they came back that one post had been duplicated. Odd.

A dozen or so assorted Zon Legacy Elites.

Note to self: I really must stop making reference to things Jeff Berlin has said when I post on Basschat threads.............

Personally I think I'd just pay the extra money & get it refinished professionally. You'll never do it as well as someone who's experienced at the whole finishing process. I've just got a quote from Martin Simms for refinishing a Precision Bass body in Burgundy Mist & it was under £250.

[quote name='Waldo' post='526234' date='Jun 27 2009, 08:02 PM']Doesn't Jeff Berlin himself fall into the catagory of 'great' player who's only listened to by other bassists anyway? Or was that his point? [/quote] He was including himself in that category and he made these comments at a clinic he did in the Bass Centre in LA, which was featured in the April 1992 issue of Bass Player magazine. (Personally I think it's one of the most level headed & sensible articles about bass playing I've ever read). It was exactly his point. (And yes, his son was seriously ill with leukaemia).

Other bassists tell you how much better they would have played that song.......

[quote name='Count Bassy' post='526067' date='Jun 27 2009, 04:43 PM']That's not how I read what he said. I read it to mean that, impressive as the 'advanced techniques' are, they are not a very big part of what people want a bass player to do.[/quote] BINGO!! That's exactly what he was saying. (I knew I should never have mentioned Jeff Berlins name......)

[quote name='Rich' post='526046' date='Jun 27 2009, 04:21 PM']Yes, I've heard him come up with that before. He seems to be arguing that there's no point in learning something unless you're going to get paid for it. Now call me a radical, but what's so wrong with playing or learning stuff for the [i]enjoyment[/i] of it? If getting paid was the be all and end all, I'd never get to play a note.[/quote] That's not what he was saying at all. He's always said that if playing a particular style (be it two handed tapping or whatever) is what you want to do then great, but the reality is 99% of bass playing work is in more traditional supportive roles. He was talking purely from the perspective of people getting hired as jobbing bassists, not what you choose to play in your spare time or if you choose to take the solo bass artist path.

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='525670' date='Jun 27 2009, 02:43 AM']Do they though? Yes there are some talented bassists about who can do loads of clever and difficult stuff, but ultimately everybody else with a bass is busy getting busy with a band, and there's no place for any of that. So has the role of the instrument been advanced at all through their innovation? Clearly a lot of bassists pay a lot of attention to people like Manring, Wooten, Marcus Miller, Jean Baudin, etc. but if nobody but bass players are listening to them, and bass players generally can't incorporate any of that stuff into what they do (which seems to be the case) then is all this boundary-testing ultimately a bit futile? Can we conclude that, while it's interesting for the individual involved at the time and other Bass Anoraks, it's pretty irrelevant for anybody else?[/quote] I'd pretty much agree with you on this. Jeff Berlin has said something pretty similar at clinics he's done. Whilst agreeing that players like Sheehan, Manring (& lots of other flash buggers I can't think of now) are great players their material is only listened to by other bass players; It's a small self supporting market & always will be. He then went on to ask people in the audience if they spent lots of time working on techniques such as tapping etc. & many said yes. He then asked how many of them had ever got booked for a session or been called upon to at an audition to use these techniques and invariably the answer was no. To me a lot of the stuff I see people raving over when bass players do it is just stuff that wouldn't get a second look if it was being done on a guitar. A perfect example was the clip somebody posted on here the other day of someone singing & accompanying himself on a bass playing a song he'd written. The first thing I thought was "Why?" The song wasn't, IMO, very good, his voice was decidedly average and if he'd been playing it on an acoustic guitar nobody would have given it a second thought. The bass in this instance, to my way of thinking, is being used for novelty value. It's always entertaining ( for other bassists) to see a skilled player showing off, but at the end of the day the bass is required to play a supporting role in 99.9% of situations, and I for one don't have a problem with that.

The seller revised the auction midweek & changed the "buy it now" price from £550 to £599, which is a bit odd as he didn't sell it last week when it was on for £579.

[quote name='attackbass' post='524286' date='Jun 25 2009, 11:30 PM']Just speaking to my dad about it, and he told me about a time when he was younger he resprayed an mg with nitro in his garage with no ventilation or masks - he's nearly 61 now! lol. He's told me to stop worrying, as there are a whole lot of other things out there that are more likely to kill or injury me - like constantly touring in splitter vans/buses/airplanes and the alcohol consumption that goes with it!![/quote] My dad was always telling me this or that won't harm you; smoking won't hurt you, drinking won't hurt you. He spent most of his life working with all manner of nasty glues, varnishes etc. The look of surprise & fear on his face when they they told him last year, on his 79th birthday, that he has advanced & incurable cancer is something I'll never forget....

Pyramid strings are superb. I've never used their bass strings but I used to use Pyramid Gold Flats on my Gretsch guitars.

[quote name='OldGit' post='523905' date='Jun 25 2009, 05:23 PM']In the unusual department they had a selection (a [i]selection[/i]!) of Zons.....[/quote] Did they finally have any Legacys in or just the usual pile of Sonus basses?

It's evil stuff - be very careful! There's a reason why commercial spray painting has to be done in explosion proof booths by law. Wear a PROPER mask, not one of those poxy paper dust masks. A good tip to help any spray you may ingest get carried through the body is to drink plenty of full fat milk before, during & after your spraying session. Apparently the emulsion (that's what milk is) traps the paint particles & you just sh*t them out rather than painting your insides.

[quote name='RussFM' post='523503' date='Jun 25 2009, 12:03 PM']I like Dan Andriano's bluey green one a lot more than the sunburst. [/quote] Seafoam Green! Now THAT'S a great colour for a bass!

[quote name='WinterMute' post='522981' date='Jun 24 2009, 09:27 PM']Sunburst isn't a finish a Geddy Lee Jazz should be available in...[/quote] Sunburst is a finish that NO guitar or bass should be available in, especially fenders with their atrocious colour blending. Someone once said to me "Fender sunbursts come in two types - Target or Sunstroke"

I clicked on this thread thinking "Please let it be ANYTHING but bloody sunburst". Oh well.....

I'd admit that a lot of the Level 42 lyrics are pretty woeful, but no more than 90% of lyrics in general IMO. Some of the very worst songs & lyrics I've ever heard are on the Stanley Clarke albums. He's a great player but most of his songs are bloody awful - I can't listen to them anymore because they just make me cringe.

[quote name='Captain Bassman' post='522140' date='Jun 23 2009, 10:33 PM'].....ember skies, seems so long ago... Next line anyone??[/quote] "You were standing on the quay, and you blew a kiss to me, I was sad to go....." :blush:

"Theme to Margaret" & "88" from "Early Tapes" are great, as is "Foundation & Empire" (12" B side I think). "World Machine" is a great album(their best IMO), as is the "Early Tapes". Some great stuff on "Level 42" & the "Pursuit of accidents" but there's some real dross on them too (let's not mention "Starchild", eh?). The 12" of "Hot water" is great for giving your Hi-fi a high volume work out. "Can't walk you home" is pretty good (B side of "The sun goes down" I think) (It's a LONG time since I sold the Jaydee & listened to any of this stuff).

[quote name='solo4652' post='521474' date='Jun 23 2009, 09:53 AM']Anyway, I was surprised just how much difference a small change in the height of the nut made to subsequent neck relief/saddle height etc.[/quote] A well adjusted nut makes an incredible difference to a bass or guitar setup, but it's one of the most difficult things to get right - you only get one chance & if you cut it too low it's back to square one. IMO it's worth paying someone who knows what they're doing (and has the proper nut files etc.) to install & cut a new nut.

[quote name='Musky' post='14441' date='Jun 9 2007, 12:25 AM']They do precision pickups at quite a good price, and I've read the odd comment on various boards about how great they sound but I'm slightly worried that if they really are so good why more people aren't shouting about them.[/quote] People don't shout about them because they haven't got the supposed kudos of a big US manufacturers name. I've no direct experience of their bass pickups but I've used various Armstrong guitar pickups and they've all been excellent, just as good as your Duncans, Dimarzios, Fralins etc.

Allparts have got Fender 13 hole tortoiseshell pickguards if that's any use: [url="http://www.allparts.uk.com/pickguards-backplates/pickguards-basses-fender-c-277_296_319_327_372.html"]http://www.allparts.uk.com/pickguards-back...19_327_372.html[/url]