Spartacus

Its Behringer. They used the name 'Buggerer' (whatever) in theior bass cabs about 4 or 5 years ago when they were doing Harkte/Ashdown hybrids. Not good for anything youd rely on onstage but fun to use theor stuff for home recording and pedals.

[quote name='Skywalker83' post='538630' date='Jul 12 2009, 05:27 PM']Well, there's a choice... 1. Take all the metal casing off have a lighter, more heat repellent efficient amp that you sit ontop of your cab(s)/Rack[/quote] Yeh but what does it look like when stripped down? Its not something Ive tried with mine. Are all the connections exposed or isthere some inner vest that stops it looking nekkid and scared? [quote]2. Keep all the casing on, have an amp that will go in rack, that will constanly overheat and break down. Whats it gonna be?[/quote] Mine hasnt broken down. Yet. but its only being used at home ATM. Seriously im intersted to know if you left it 'naked' or stuck it in another better vented enclosure (which would be the sensible thing) and if so then what?

[quote name='Skywalker83' post='538591' date='Jul 12 2009, 04:29 PM']Ok, not sure if someone mentioned it (i didn't read all the posts) or if you have already done this. I have a Superfly, one of the very rare 1000W versions. When you by a Superfly the first thing you do is.....Take ALL of the outer casing metal off, it's all added material for show, and all it does is make the amp heavier, and also stops the heat being able to escape, probably why yours over heated. The casing of the Superfly is a major design flaw, the cooling fan is situated of the top of the amp, and then it's covered with the outer casing which is metal plate, which stops all the heat being able to escape. The Superflys always had a reputation for being noisey and overheating, but this was mostly due to the outer metal casing.[/quote] once you take off the metal casing, what do you put it into??????

[quote name='Buzz' post='538566' date='Jul 12 2009, 03:42 PM']I have to ask, if you've managed to blow up 4 amplifiers, are you using them correctly? Because managing to blow up four different models seems much more like user fault than manufacturing fault or a run of very bad bad luck. Not saying it isn't possible to have 4 unreliable ones, but just strikes me as excessive.[/quote] I guess running them nearly flat at rarely over half volume with the correct impedence cabinets and no FX was too much to ask not as bad as it sounds cos one of the amps wasnt mine The power stages went on both the EVOs. The power supply on the MAG and the MK. Ive hada lot of other amps in teh past 5 years and its only ever the Ashdown thats gone wrong.

[quote name='Paul_C' post='538229' date='Jul 12 2009, 12:45 AM'][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2WOOIZXNks"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2WOOIZXNks[/url] [url="http://www.mikeyguitar.com/bass.asp"]http://www.mikeyguitar.com/bass.asp[/url][/quote] "Prices start from $5,000 USD". Ouch

The berlin will move more air and will sound louder but its got no tweeter if thats important. Its the same power 300W into itself and 500W with an extension but Itll sound 'bigger' than the 121P. A single 12" isnt great on its own for low end in a small cabinet. If you add an extension for your 121P youll gte the full 500W and more air movement and itll lift your 121p so you can hear it better. You could look at the 102P. Better low end than the 121p on its own and tilts back to hear it better but i still feel i need an extension if its used in a band or gig. Its about 20kg which isnt a lot to carry with two hands. [quote name='spongebob' post='538289' date='Jul 12 2009, 09:13 AM']My 121P 300w combo - I totally love it, but in my current set-up, it's just not quite powerful enough. It's as new, and only 3/4 months old.....but I think I'll have to change. I was asking earlier in the week about adding the 121 New York Cabinet to it - but really, I'd like to stick to a combo as it's simply less to carry! I know there's a few above mine in the range - weight is the crucial thing, as I don't really want to exceed 16-ishk. Old work injury and all that! The Jeff Berlin looks tempting, as I nearly went for that before. 300w, but a 15" as oppose to a 12" speaker. Does anybody on the forum use one of these as their gigging amp? Would the power upgrade be significant enough to cut it with various styles in pubs and clubs? Or is the extension cab the only way to go? I don't need a massive power upgrade, mine is almost there, but to get a real boost I feel I have to crank up a bit too much! [/quote]

Theyre called noiseless because theyre designed a bit like Lace sensors to reject hum. A lot of reviews say theyre low output, no idea why but reckon theyre designed that way to avoid producing hum. Have you got the same impedance pots in the CIJ AND your new no-name jazz?

[quote name='TGEvans' post='537889' date='Jul 11 2009, 02:28 PM']thanks for the feedback guys.do you know of any players that use fretless basses for heavier styles?i can only think of les claypool and steve di gorgio from the metal band death.might be worth me checking out some people for guidance,t[/quote] Not metal but heavy, Youth in the original Killing Joke lineup played fretless.

Worth asking him if its possible to try before buying? Im worried the muffintop might get in the way.

Anyone got any expreience specifically with the ATK700 [b]not[/b] the other ATK variants?

[quote name='BigRedX' post='537948' date='Jul 11 2009, 04:05 PM']Don't know if I'd fancy using a guitar combo tilt-back stand with something putting out bass frequencies. Their designed to be used with little 25W guitar amps and the fizzy sounds they produce.[/quote] Me neither. Even forgetting the weight you lose the floor coupling and boundry reinforcement which you need for smaller combos.

[quote name='BigRedX' post='537797' date='Jul 11 2009, 11:39 AM']Spartacus, you're missing the point. 1. If Clarky is as DIY inept as he claims then in real terms trying to make a stand will cost him far more in time and effort and therefore money, than spending £24 on something that already does the job.[/quote] Dont think im missing a point, but IMO the MArkbass wedge is a waste of money and doesnt do the job well. I didnt find mine well made, it broke quickly, and it wouldnt be too good at supporting larger combos either. Cant see the point of overcomplicating things when a simple bit of 4x2 wood would work just as well. Hardly DIY is it? [quote]2. It's a much better idea when tilting a speaker/combo back to support it from behind then to lift it at the front. Simply physics really.[/quote] Thats stating the obvious really. But The markbass wedge doesnt provide any support at the rear. Using a single combo is always going to be a compromise if you want to hear it AND maintain floor coupling and boundary effects to give beter low end. Thats one thing that i weighed up with the CMD102P. At the end of the day, it gets dark. All im saying is that i personally and having owned one of these before, wouldnt bother again. Its an opinion and isnt that what Clarky was asking for?

[quote name='Boneless' post='537667' date='Jul 11 2009, 01:01 AM']No, no, I actually DON'T know It's just that I tried choosing an adequate driver, keeping in mind power, frequency range and cost, and these three are satisfied by this choice of drivers. The point is now, impedance-wise, will I get a 4+ ohm cab? If I don't, I have to plan everything from scratch again... (f***! )[/quote] If you look at your impedance plot and think how much thermal power your amp will put out then it can be seen as a 4 ohm cab. I think

[quote name='Protium' post='537657' date='Jul 11 2009, 12:29 AM']Touche, I would like to hear a Markbass that doesn't sound like someone shouting through a wet burlap sack.[/quote] The wet burlap sack probably had an Ashdown badge Id happily give my reviews of all the ashdown gear ive tried and owned vs. all the markbass gear ive tried and owned. The Ashdown stuff would take up much more room as it seems to blow up much easier, so ive got through more of it, so it would take up more space. Add your own review to the following. ABM EVO 300W 115 Combo - BANG ABM EVOII 500W 210 Combo - BANG MAG C115 300 - BANG AL MK500 - BANG They all blew up. The cabs lasted ok. Until I sold them. My PoS Superfly seems to be the exeption to the Ashdown Amp rule as i cant seem to blow the f***er up even though they have issues with board connections at all stages. Could you quantify your own opinions in a similar way? I used to like TE stuff, then I liked Ashdown stuff until it blew up too much to bother, then I realised other stuff sounded better.

[quote name='Protium' post='537651' date='Jul 11 2009, 12:25 AM']Go out and play some "higher end" Ashdown stuff then [/quote] Not found any yet

[quote name='Protium' post='537645' date='Jul 11 2009, 12:21 AM']How is Markbass better than Ashdown, except it works after you left it out in the rain. WTG. Fact: Kirk Douglas played an Ashdown, beat that.[/quote] So how [b]does[/b] the "higher end" Ashdown stuff sound? The UK ABM vs the chinese ABM? WHat does the Us ABM sound like? Any idea? No?

[quote name='Protium' post='537641' date='Jul 11 2009, 12:16 AM']And where did I say that?[/quote] You didnt, I was misquoting you but would still love to know what the "higher end" Ashdown stuff sounds like

[quote name='Protium' post='537640' date='Jul 11 2009, 12:15 AM']"I do wonder if the higher end ashdown stuff is better though" "Yes it is" I'm not making a comparitive opinion, just a comment that higher end Ashdown is better than their cheaper ranges.[/quote] That goes without saying So [b]why[/b] is the higher end stuff better? Just wondering because Superfly is the only one of theirs that hasnt blown up on me after a few weeks. Maybe your experience is better and you would like to share?

[quote name='Protium' post='537634' date='Jul 11 2009, 12:07 AM']It's heavier.[/quote] And? that makes it better? How is the [b]"high end Ashdown stuff better than Markbass"[/b]?

[quote name='Protium' post='537631' date='Jul 11 2009, 12:03 AM']From experience UK ABM and Classic, not tried the US series.[/quote] But how does it weigh up to Markbass gear? Do you have experience of that as well? I would hope that if youre giving a comparitive opinoin then youd have had experience of both and would be capable of giving a qualitive assessment.

[quote name='Protium' post='537624' date='Jul 10 2009, 11:54 PM']Yes it is.[/quote] Which bits of highr end Ashdown? IME MArkBass gives a better sound across the board through decent cabs than Ashdown does. I have a Superfly for home fiddling and its been pretty reliable but all the other Ashdown stuff ive had has gone wrong very quickly and that includes MAG ABM and LAB stuff. Markbass has never shown any faults at all even after been soaked in he rain and dried out when you only have to cry over some Ashdown stufff and it goes fizzzzzzzz.

[quote name='Protium' post='537612' date='Jul 10 2009, 11:28 PM']This doesn't really matter because the driver impedances are not ideal to get a usable speaker configuration below 12ohms. Personally I would look for 16ohm woofers or a 4ohm midrange or use a 2-way crossover.[/quote] Hes already described the woofers and crossover hes planning to use and seems to know exactly what to use and where. His question is whether the impedance graph suggests the overall load will drop his amp below the minimum load, I think. it looks like Boneless knows exactly what hes doing and is just worrying about the detail IMHO. Best to let him get on with it