wateroftyne

I think it's awesome - one of my favourites. The production is dated, but when you compare it to something current - Clockwork Angels, for example - you have to wonder if producers are born with cloth in their ears these days. Yes Signals has a bit too much reverb, and it's a bit low on guitars, but it's punchy, fat and rich, with loads of open space.

Swing by on the way back... Bring him along!

Bump for tomorrow!

Na. If it works, it's fine. I never need to cut 'em on Fenders... the string is always wound to the bottom.

Little miss WoT (7) is doing OK on the fiddle. Sometimes she wants to practice... sometimes she doesn't. She's only 7, so it's up to her.

Some I do for money, some I do for love. Thankfully, I do most of them for both. Rehearsing is boring. Gigging is more fun.

No - just one of each, all 8ohm... L-R: Neo 15" w/tweeter (17kg) | Neo 12"+6" (15kg) | Neo 12" (8kg!)

The postman didn't let us down.... toys to play with on Sunday:

[quote name='rk7' timestamp='1378481605' post='2200995'] I'll be coming in past the Metrocentre, will that be uncongested(ish)? Oh and Martin from Overwater is coming along too. RK [/quote] Cool! Coming from the Metrocentre should be fine.

..I should mention that people should bring their own lunch. Once we've demolished Matt P's brownies (and maybe something from Mrs WoT), that's your lot. There's no shops nearby....

Nah - [quote name='funkypenguin' timestamp='1378478339' post='2200925'] is that going to affect me, coming up from Leeds? [/quote] Nah - it's the other side of the river. You'll be fine :-)

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1378467345' post='2200711'] They are different. Neo allows longer excursion, not because of higher flux, but because the motor structure is more compact. Longer excursion results in higher output with less distortion. Most of us prefer that to lower output with higher distortion, but I guess not all. [/quote] That makes sense. Thanks, Bill.

Don't have band 'practices'. Have band 'rehearsals'. 'Practicing' is what you do at home. On your own.

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1378464845' post='2200654'] Thanks man, I enjoyed it [/quote] You're welcome. I'm here all week!

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1378464744' post='2200650'] I'm not sure why you want me to validate you. SMART is not used for the purpose you seem to intend for it here. [/quote] it's just a bit of fun, man.

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1378464476' post='2200640'] [/quote] Weak answers (apart from the first one which was clearly a trick question). Have another go, but this time use this:

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1378463489' post='2200618'] Those who can't accept that some of these concepts are very useful if applied properly, those who limit themselves with their ill-found and restrictive prejudices. [/quote] [size=4]I have no intention of using the SMART technique, because it doesn't really interest me and I have other priorities musical and otherwise.[/size] [size=4]Here's a questionnaire - I'd be grateful if you would spend a moment to fill it in. I thought I knew the answers, but it seems I am wrong...[/size] [b][size=4]1. Can wateroftyne tell the difference between truth and bollocks?[/size][/b] [size=4][color=#444444][font=arial, sans-serif]☐ [/font][/color]Yes[/size] [size=4][color=#444444][font=arial, sans-serif]☐ [/font][/color][color=#444444][font=arial, sans-serif]No[/font][/color][/size] [b][size=4]2. Can wateroftyne tell the difference between useful and pointless?[/size][/b] [size=4][color=#444444][font=arial, sans-serif]☐ [/font][/color]Yes[/size] [size=4][color=#444444][font=arial, sans-serif]☐ [/font][/color][color=#444444][font=arial, sans-serif]No[/font][/color][/size] [b][size=4]3. Can wateroftyne tell the difference between truth and bollocks?[/size][/b] [size=4][color=#444444][font=arial, sans-serif]☐ [/font][/color]Yes[/size] [size=4][color=#444444][font=arial, sans-serif]☐ [/font][/color][color=#444444][font=arial, sans-serif]No[/font][/color][/size] [b][size=4]3. If wateroftyne is told something that looks like bollocks, will he:[/size][/b] [size=4][color=#444444][font=arial, sans-serif]☐ [/font][/color]Think it's bollocks and not look any further[/size] [size=4][color=#444444][font=arial, sans-serif]☐ Use his judgement to decide for himself[/font][/color][/size]

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1378463102' post='2200601'] It will go above their heads Bilbo, most can't differentiate between clever and stupid, useful and pointless, truth and bollocks. As long as it looks like what they have been told is bollocks, they will think it's bollocks, and won't look any further. [/quote] Who are 'they'?

They've arrived. Yay!

Of course - I always use my ears when evaluating cabs! It's the reason I'm quite happy to state that (so far) Neos don't seem to ring my bell, without being too bothered by the 'You don't understand the theory - they're no different other than the weight!; responses I invariably receive. :-)

I can't deny that rosewood is classic, but maple is lovely with the TV logo. Damn, I want my old bass back SO MUCH....

[quote name='Phil Starr' timestamp='1378409833' post='2199982'] One of the important differences is because neo magnets are expensive. This means that in the most part they aren't used in anything but relatively high end designs with fairly strong magnetic fields and well engineered magnetic gaps. The speakers are generally all fairly low Q highly damped designs and tend to be fairly revealing so you could end up with a cleaner sound. A lot of traditional bass speakers used lots of cheap drivers with undersized magnets which means they are a bit woolly sounding and have characteristic bass humps which tends to drown out the mids a little. This is the sound of one of the older 4x10's and probably the sound of rock. If you are trying to replicate the sound of the 70's bands then basic speakers still do that job. If you want versatility then you probably ought to go for a better quality driver and dial in the eq you want. So you might think you hear a 'neo' sound but you would get the same sound with a ceramic speaker magnet if it was large enough. It isn't the material intrinsically, it's just about decently powerful magnets. [/quote] This is what I was thinking as a possibility. Maybe Neo drivers are more efficient and 'accurate' which is a godsend for a lot of players. But not my thing. Maybe...

[quote name='walbassist' timestamp='1378397781' post='2199719'] Excellent Michael Is the above available for purchase? [/quote] Hi Mike! I'm not sure - I'm waiting to hear back from Tommy to see what his plans are. I'll know by Saturday, I imagine.

Nice one. Give yourself a pat on the back...