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Road Worn- Amazing bass.

[quote name='throwoff' post='771340' date='Mar 11 2010, 11:23 AM']Ok here is what I have however I'm going to make a statement first. This is my personal recommendation, I am familiar with every item on this list personally and feel the quality of the overall rig is great especially in your price range. I have used thomann simply because everyone knows them and they have a good 30 day money back deal so if you ordered this exact list and tried it you can return it. Even if you dont use this exact list be aware everything on it I would call 'essential' ie even if you order something totally different I believe you would need something to fill each space. [u]First and foremost desk and speakers[/u]! [b]Peavey Pro 15 messenger speakers and a TMix powered desk.[/b] This is bundled together with the speakon cables and gives you 375W per side into 15" full range speakers. For this budget its nigh on impossible to get something with subs im afraid without a massive loss of overall quality to the components and to be brutally honest you dont need them for a straight vocal PA. I use 15" tops and always mic the kick and often run a bass DI in small venues and I dont bother taking my subs 15's can handle it! The desk does have 2 unpowered outs as well so the option is there to add Powered subs or passive subs with a power amp later. [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/peavey_pro_15_messenger_serie_bundle.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/peavey_pro_15_mes...erie_bundle.htm[/url] PRICE £525.33 [b]Speaker stands[/b] 2 with a bag (I still use a set of these I had over 2 years now! quality for the money) [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/millenium_bs2211b_boxenstaenderset.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/millenium_bs2211b...staenderset.htm[/url] PRICE £37.20 [u]Mics! [/u] [b]Drum Mics Superlux DRK A3 pack[/b] I still use these for my drum mics (a bigger pack admitedly but the same range) 3 mics; one kick 2 snare/tom Ideal for smaller gigs as a kick can be essential. snare probs wont use too much if your drummer has a nice one but always have the option [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/superlux_drk_a3.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/superlux_drk_a3.htm[/url] PRICE £24.50 [b]T-Bone MB75[/b] As the name suggest this is a rather naughty SM57 copy. Rumour has it they are made using old shure machinery in China and having side by sided my one of these with a 57' I'm not sure thats just a rumour. Great for guitar cabs, random instruments you might need. I have used this on snare, guitar cabs, tambourine, brass and even as a vocal mic its just a great all rounder. [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_tbone_mb75.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_tbone_mb75.htm[/url] PRICE £28.13 [b] BeyerDynamic Opus 29 (bundle)[/b] I chose the bundle version simply because you get a 6m XLR for about a quid! and an extra cable is always helpful. For my money this is the best budget mic on the market today. I have 3 of these and an SM58 which was my original mic set for vocal. The 58 invariable got left in the box, I just think these sound nicer [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/beyerdynamic_opus_29_s_bundle.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/beyerdynamic_opus_29_s_bundle.htm[/url] PRICE £34.48 [u]Cables +Stands![/u] Now the boring bits that hold it all together! [b]10x SSNAKE SM10[/b] Basic 10m XLR cable. Does the job and buying 10 means you should have spares (essential as the first time you gig without at least 2 spares 2 cables will break!) They come in a bunch of colours if you fancy it (I use red ones for kick and snare just to keep them in my eye) But traditional black works! [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_sssnake_sk233-10.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_sssnake_sk233-10.htm[/url] PRICE £57.20 (for 10) [b] Millenium MS 2002 low stand[/b] Short stand for kick mic (sometimes guitar cab but more often than not kick!) [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/millenium_ms2002.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/millenium_ms2002.htm[/url] PRICE £12.61 [b]4x Millenium MS 2005 regular stand[/b] You said you have a couple already so I put down 4, gives you 6 total which is plenty for most occasions. Tough and reliable stands [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/millenium_ms2005_mic_stand.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/millenium_ms2005_mic_stand.htm[/url] PRICE £33.76 (for 4) [b] Mic clips x4 [/b] Old fashioned rubber bits. These are strong gripping and have no moving parts like some of the budget spring ones ie they wont snap! [url="http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_tbone_mikrohalterung.htm"]http://www.thomann.de/gb/the_tbone_mikrohalterung.htm[/url] PRICE £10.16 (for 4) TOTAL! £763.37 OK I went over budget! But this as close to it as I can get! Of course as people have said you can always go second hand and a lot of people do, I have found some bargins on the bay and elsewhere but you dont usually have a returns policy! Some stuff I bought and wish to God I could take it back even though it was very cheap just because I'll never use it. Mic's especially and speakers are liable to be 'ragged' and with the amount of counterfeits on eBay I would be wary. Anyway thats my suggestion. I found it quite enjoyable If anyone else wants me to do something similar just drop me a PM[/quote] Monitors? Dude in all honesty, what people here have been touching on is correct. 500+ people is a crazy amount, and I can't see how a 750w desk running only two speakers is gonna be anywhere near enough. What this guy has recommended is probably as good 'bang for buck' as you will find, but it's still a small venue PA. It's similar to what my band uses, and that's just for pubs/small clubs.

Wow £27.60......yeah not cheap, but if they last twice as long as £14 strings then i'm happy. Are these silk wrapped on the ends? Anyone got any words of advice as far as gauges go? I want the tension to be low. I usually use whatever has the 100-gauge E. Can be anywhere from light to medium. Whats the deal with cloth wrapped strings?

Nice one, I'll check em out.

OK i've been generally using Fender 7250's for the last year or so, but recently went back to the D'addario XL nickels as my Fender's had started to feel dead. Turns out I hadn't realised how 'dead' the Fenders were, as the new strings now sound waaaaay too zingy for me! I was sure they had sent me stainless by mistake, but no, I had just let the old strings go completely flat. While the new strings now sound alive and fresh, and that's a good thing, I've realised how damn bright and zingy these D'addario's actually are. I had to raise my action a bit a couple of days after I put them on as the sudden increase in fret noise was getting on my nerves, even playing extra clean! I don't recall new strings ever sounding as clunky as this when going from the 7250's to new 7250's Some of the reason-I think- could be down to the fact that the D'addario's don't have any silk windings at the ends, which results in a lot of sustained 'laser-beam' type zing when open notes are played- but also on the whole I think they must be quite bright for nickels. Can anyone recommend a set of nickel roundwounds which have all the warmth and punch of fresh nickels, but without too much zingyness to them? Silk windings at the ends would help too. And while I'm here, I'd actually prefer low-tension strings, if anyone can recommend a set that will do everything I want! I've heard that lighter gauges=less tension, I've also heard that heavier gauges=less tension, and I've heard that it can be down to the way they're made as well- but I've also seen strings advertised as low tension before, so maybe they're out there.......

Yep, this old conundrum. I get fed up twiddling my EQ for what seems to be ages, thinking I've nailed it, then standing out front and realising I sould like crap. What follows then is 20 minutes of me walking to and from my amp, twisting everyone up in my leads as I go, trying in vain to guess what to adjust. I wish someone would do a remote control for a bass amp EQ! Can't be that hard, surely? Would allow me to stand way back and fiddle around whilst the band played, hence I could get it spot on! What really annoys me about this whole process, is that the gig venues seem to have more of a variation on the sound of my bass than any of the other instruments in the band. The others usually just need to toy with their level a bit, whilst I'm tearing my hair out trying to get 'that sound'. Carpet, no carpet, high ceilings, low ceilings, wood floor, slate floor, stage, how many people are in the audience..... the variables are huge.

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Welcome from St Austell- yep another one. We're taking over!

just spreading a bit of love for Nick. What can I say? Paid for a Hartke pedal on Monday afternoon, it arrived Tuesday morning well packaged, boxed with instructions. Can't recommend highly enough.

OK good man. So if I measure the beast up, can you recommend a couple options to me? Like I said before, I'm after strong but tight lows, good low mids for a bit of tone definition and to cut through a bit, keeping the high mids down and the treble fairly even. Kinda how I set up my EQ really! So armed with that info, and my combo measurements will you be able to recommend something or do you need more info?

I have a 200w combo made by a company called AC EURO..... yeah me neither! It kicks out a fairly decent sound, and is fairly punchy. I tend to use this over my Hartke vx3500 combo as most of the gigs we play are small-ish pubs, and unless I can get the Hartke up to a respectable volume, it doesn't seem to drive the speakers hard enough so it can end up a bit muddy. The AC Euro has a 1x15" speaker, that looks pretty 'aged' and possibly past retirement. The amp works fine and actually kicks out a nice tone, I would guess it's early 90's? And the only thing I can find out about AC Euro is that they may now be called Audio Concepts. I've been toying with having a gear-overhaul but since I'm due to be buying a house in a couple months I thought maybe a new speaker could freshen things up? I'd like the lows to be punchy and tight with good note definition, and nothing overly bright sounding. Can anyone recommend brands and where to buy? Cheers! p.s see below for measurements

[quote name='Sibob' post='783889' date='Mar 23 2010, 09:01 PM']Whats the point of trying a bass out and then buying it online?? There's a great probability that the one you buy online will be different enough for you not to be happy than the one you loved in the shop! Support your bricks and morter music shops and do yourself a favour by doing so Si[/quote] I'll happily support my local music shops, but the point that was being made- if you had read the whole thread- is that London is ridiculously overpriced. I'm always happy to pay a bit extra to get that extra service, but when you're talking several hundred pounds more, then it's not something I can actually afford to do, especially when these aren't my 'local' music shops. I've got my eye on a Classic 50's P bass- these can be had at £479. The Gallery wants £665. My local music shop can get these in at £499, and yes, that's where I'll be buying it.

It's not just singers, it's all kinds of musicians. Our singer just likes to ask for more monitor constantly, untill there's so much monitor he can't hear himself and all we can hear is him. Then he still asks for more monitor. We have a similar situation with our fiddle player. Never says Yes or No to gigs, just mysterious comments like 'it's all good'. He's cancelled gigs at short notice in the past for feeble reasons (and reasons that could have been avoided had he been more organised) and I reckon he never truly confirms gigs in case he needs to pull out again. With him it's just that he's henpecked by his Mrs, which means if she wants him to do something else, he has to do it. It would be a lot easier if he just told her when his gigs where so she could see when he was busy. As it is, he keeps us both in the dark and hopes the two never clash. Which they have and probably will again. He never used to help pack any gear away either, just grabbed his fiddle once the gig finished and buggered off. We had words about that though. The main problem is his playing. He's tone deaf, and pitches all over the place. Not good. We're looking to replace him though, so it's 'all good' for us. Seriously though, I reckon a lot of these problems are caused by the 'other half' and the musician not having the balls to stand up to them.

Bought that lovely Fret King Perception off Tom. Great guy, daily communication, very prompt replies. Bass arrived exactly when he said it would and was well packaged. Plays like a dream and is brand new, just as described. Wouldn't hesistate to do business again. Cheers!

Cracker! You have to watch Cracker! Brilliant. I'm not sure how many they made (sure someone on here will know) but they were feature-length TV mini-series with Robbie Coltrane (AKA Hagred off of Harry Potter) during the '90's. Anyway, welcome to BC.

I thought the Sterlings were made in the Far East whereas the Stingrays were USA built? Or is this so obvious it's been taken as a given?

Can anyone let me know if the neck profile is the same as on the 'Road Worn' series? and if there are any other differences (aside from appearance). My local music shop has a Fiesta Red road worn in stock, and if they're basically the same it means I can at least get a feel for the instrument and see if I like it.