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[quote name='chaypup' post='981180' date='Oct 8 2010, 07:42 AM']You could easily make the opposite point by listing the manufactured bands from the 60's and 70's (and even previous to that) and the great bands of today - and when I've got 5 minutes - I will! Older generations have always thought that the music of their youth was more relevant, mainly because it [b]reminds[/b] them of their youth. There are more people playing instruments and therefore more bands now than at any time since the 60's, and I suspect that there's even more now than then. A greater percentage are also writing original music compared to then because recording it is so accessible nowadays. True there is lazy, formulaic pap around, but there always was![/quote] Even if you did list the Monkees, The Osmonds, The Jackson 5 or others, the writing of the songs was done by some of the absolute best. Now it seems like little to no effort is being made. Just look at the top 10 this week. [quote]Please, please tell me you aren't drawing any sort of similarity between pub/club covers bands and the bloody X-Factor...[/quote] No way, I'm IN one of those pub bands we're talking about, I wouldn't dream of it. Just picking up on an earlier point in the post I'd made

[quote name='silddx' post='978234' date='Oct 5 2010, 12:38 PM']When was the situation any different?[/quote] Miles Davis, The Beatles, Janis Joplin, The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Fleetwood Mac, The Byrds, Jimi Hendrix, Genesis, James Brown, Stevie Wonder. Lady Gaga, The Killers, Tiny Tempah, Pixie Lott, Rihanna, Justin Beiber, Taylor Swift, David Guetta, the cast of Glee. The consumer has got lazy and considerably more people are willing to put their faith in some television based competition like X-Factor for their musical pleasure as opposed to actively seeking out new music, that's what's changed. Not that they have much choice in the matter anyway.

This is the kind of Jamiroquai stuff that got me hooked on Zender's playing when I was younger. The bass sound I still think is one of the most unique I've heard... compressed to with an inch of it's life, but it's completely what makes it so cool.

[quote name='silverfoxnik' post='977846' date='Oct 4 2010, 11:24 PM']Am feeling a little controversial, but does anyone care? I'm tempted to say that JK & his muzak is soul-less, funk-less, pointless production-line rubbish... But that would be an insult to music that is genuinely soul-less, funk-less, pointless production-line rubbish.. And that's with or without Zender IMO.[/quote] I disagree, strongly, but it's your opinion and no one can argue with that. I think nowadays the only reason Jay Kay can push the music he does is because he's got Jamiroquai's name to it, it's definitely not a patch on Emergency On Planet Earth or Space Cowboy because that was truly unique stuff and to my ears isn't particularly great to listen to. Also the sound is very dated.

[quote name='chaypup' post='977481' date='Oct 4 2010, 06:44 PM']Where's the evidence that music is dying? As far as I can see, there are new genres springing up weekly, more people are in bands, musical instrument sales are way up and there is almost unlimited choice in listening to music. Where I live, I have a choice of at least 5 or 6 live acts every night within a very short distance. Music is thriving! [/quote] I don't think music is dying but I think it's not easy for good music to come to the forefront because the forefront is occupied by label-sponsored acts that are easily moulded and controllable.

[quote name='blackmn90' post='976236' date='Oct 3 2010, 06:21 PM']just out of interest does anyone know how they did this? it cant have been using a gate, and i thought everything was recorded onto tape.[/quote] They had in the later stages of Hitsville Detroit more tracks to record onto, including one entirely for the bass take which was obviously of paramount importance to Berry Gordy and Holland–Dozier–Holland.

[quote name='squire5' post='974727' date='Oct 1 2010, 11:33 PM']Anyone watching this?Some nice tracks from them both.Lee Sklar is on bass and he's using what looks like a battered old Precision,covered with graffiti and sporting 2 Precision type pickups.He's sounding great as per usual.He played some great bass on Taylor's albums early on,especially 'You've got a Friend' and 'Carolina in my Mind' to name but two. The BBC is doing us musos proud tonight. [/quote] James Taylor is the man, talented beyond measure! Leland Sklar is sick too, that would be his Franken-bass of no particular brand if I'm not mistaken. I saw him a few years ago, Steve Jordan on kit and Jimmy Johnson on bass and it was too good.

[quote name='bubinga5' post='974604' date='Oct 1 2010, 08:56 PM'][/quote] Tell me about it. If sexism screams one thing it's complete insecurity. I've always been a fan of Sheryl Crow, she's a great writer.

You've got to fake it to make it, right? I play in a covers band to finance our original stuff, plus it can be fun. Easy. Look at Guns N Roses, ironically began life as an Aerosmith tribute band.

[quote name='YouMa' post='974184' date='Oct 1 2010, 03:29 PM']I love the fez! anyone know what he wont do without the fez on? whats this tune about?[/quote] The premise of the tune is that if he's not wearing his lucky fez then the person in question might fall over. Perhaps.

[quote name='Bilbo' post='973685' date='Oct 1 2010, 10:51 AM']Which tune is it? Can't watch video in work.[/quote] Gaslighting Abbie.

Yeh it funks hard this tune (Tom Barney is a superb player), although the original recording of this tune is so brutally clean, everything sounds so close in the mix. It's still cool songwriting if it's your thing but I preferred it when they were limited somewhat by technology with stuff like the Royal Scam and Aja, it did the tunes more justice IMO.

Live and Let Die, although tonight it was this: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj2g5l2-3RM&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj2g5l2-3RM...feature=related[/url]

[quote name='bubinga5' post='972275' date='Sep 30 2010, 01:09 AM']oh i do hate that term 'lift music'!!...its pathetic, and lacking in a knowledge of music.....ive heard Led Zep in a lift aswell as Grover to Steely Dan and many others... its such a blanket term for music like this....!! can you name any other "lift music" you find insubstantial and loathsome?...most of the types of music your poss referring too are some of the best musicians in the world... open your eyes..[/quote] I kind of agree but I must say, it was incredibly bland show to watch and the sound was piss poor. It's the kind of music that wouldn't see the light of day if there wasn't a big name behind it. I used to be a massive Jamiroquai fan and have met both Stuart and Paul and discussed their playing, especially with Paul in detail, both a superb players and very different. But the new stuff is shocking.

[quote name='Pete Academy' post='972081' date='Sep 29 2010, 08:57 PM']He sticks to root and is not very adventurous, but why class him as bad? Explanation please.[/quote] He's not, and I disagree entirely with the notion that anyone, even if they are limited to chugging along with root notes, make for bad bass players. There's a misconception that limited technique makes you a bad player. Wrong. Badly suited for certain music maybe, but not a bad player. What makes a bad player is not doing what's right for the music. That's it, it doesn't matter how good you are technically, as long as your time keeping is good and your ear is good then you are an acceptable bass player. I'm not a U2 fan at all really and I'm sure that this is an argument had a million and one times before but answer me one question... could you do anything to improve on a bass line from something like 'Where the Streets Have No Name' or 'New Years Day'? No, because Clayton's lines are right for what's going on. It' literally boils down to that.

I once left my octave pedal in Stockholm. Guess it's not completely the same thing though.

Why did you not think you'd ever say it? Flea's a very funky player, it's stands to reason. He's been listening and playing funk all his life.

I think it's a confidence thing, I was always bad with this but you've just got to sing like you mean it if you'll pardon the cliche. No pedal can replicate confidence successfully IMO. If you've got a decent range as well then you might find if she's a good alto that it might not be as difficult as you might think to harmonise successfully with her!

Just my opinion however! Sorry forgot to mention just in case the OP takes any offense.

[quote name='steve-soar' post='967190' date='Sep 24 2010, 10:08 PM']God, that is f***ng awful. Measured, tight with technique slop.[/quote] I'm afraid I agree. Sounds like the sort of music they'll be playing during the apocalypse.

[quote name='bobbass4k' post='928781' date='Aug 18 2010, 04:41 PM']also some oceansize[/quote] A friend of mine is supporting those guys for the second time in the next few days. Not my thing personally but interesting music, liked 'The Charm Offensive'!

[quote name='EBS_freak' post='966869' date='Sep 24 2010, 04:12 PM']Not sure I agree but I'm ok to differ on that viewpoint. We've seem the sample maths and I've been there and done that... albeit with guitars not basses. You say you'd consider it, perhaps you should actually do it and tell us how you get on.[/quote] I did, although not quite in the same manner. Went on holiday a few months ago for my 21st to NYC with enough money to get a decent bass but nothing really took my fancy so I left it.

Oh dear. It's actually a lot better than other best bass player polls I've seen but by no means more acceptable. Oh well... it seems people need to have things quantified for them to understand what they should be paying attention to and what they shouldn't.

[quote name='JTUK' post='966852' date='Sep 24 2010, 04:04 PM']Wow, really... It is almost a busking song round here. The type of thing a dep band will throw in. Ditto Money.[/quote] That doesn't surprise me, I just haven't seen it before.