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Do 'Bassfaces' have to be cringeworthy? I like this pic because our drummer has just dropped a major b*llock mid-song and he [u]knows[/u] that I know! I've worked with him for over 16 years and we just know how to have a laugh at each other and it is soooo much better than some of the tightar5ed folks in some bands.

[quote name='LukeFRC' post='615513' date='Oct 3 2009, 09:42 AM']and again to £850..... only £50 more than I sold it to him for, how much will ebay fees be?[/quote] Insertion fee + 10% final value fees + PayPal fees if a buyer pays that way... you'll be looking at about 14% of £850 i.e. a loss!

[quote name='GreeneKing' post='614199' date='Oct 1 2009, 08:31 PM']No John not at all (I did used to be a copper - ABC, Accept nothing, Believe nobody and Check everything out), BUT, it would help explain why the extension might be in series. [b][u]If you get my drift[/u][/b]?[/quote] Absolutely! If it is a 4ohm internal speaker then any extension will likely as not be in series but that has to be the daftest extension option EVER.

[quote name='GreeneKing' post='614180' date='Oct 1 2009, 08:06 PM']The manual says that the driver is 4ohm (with a 4ohm tweeter). If 4 ohms is the nominal impedance I can see why the extension o/p is in series although why bother [/quote] Do you believe everything you read Peter? I've known some 'right' clangers in manuals (though I do confess that the H&K ones are better than most ) but unless I saw something with my own eyes (or heard it with my own ears perhaps) I'd not be inclined to have great faith in the printed word.

I'd be inclined to think that it would be an 8ohm cab as well... here's a thought; get the speaker out and see if it has the impedance marked/labelled on it. If it is 8ohms I'd be amazed if it weren't a parallel socket and intended to operate at 4 ohms with an 8 ohm extension cab. I owned a H&K BassBase 250 combo that had a 4 ohm internal speaker load but it DIDN'T have an extension socket.

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='613835' date='Oct 1 2009, 02:15 PM']I bought some Black Label strings and the 'D' was dud, I sent Warwick an email last Wednesday and I haven't had a response. Am I wrong in thinking this is poor?[/quote] Always worth contacting the manufacturer but if the strings were bought from a shop, that is your point of complaint. Obviously if you got them direct from Warwick then that's a different matter... I'm not defending their lack of response by the way

[quote name='GreeneKing' post='613372' date='Sep 30 2009, 10:31 PM']If the amp has a max output of 200 watts or thereabout into 4 ohm, and you add an extension cab in [b]series[/b] to increase the impedance seen by the amp then the output will fall. The whole idea of a 4 ohm combo with a series output to increase the impedance seems strange to say the least. I'd argue that adding an extension cab to an amp that will have its output reduced is a waste of time.[/quote] I have to agree... is it a typo in the manual? re. the OP comment: "ok so final questions, is my amp currently delivering 200watts? if i added a 200watt cab will i have 200watts being delivered from both amp and cab? and finally will this have a major impact in my overall loudness and presence?" Adding more speakers will give you a greater spread and get the drivers nearer your ears BUT it will be offset by the reduction in power! I wouldn't worry too much about [u]what[/u] is being delivered from [u]where[/u]; power is from the amp, your cab simply has a rating based on what it can take... but that is very misleading so don't pay 'too' much heed to it. First things first, establish if the output on your combo is genuinely series.

[quote name='Al Heeley' post='612605' date='Sep 29 2009, 11:05 PM']I can accept that some finishes could influence the tone & resonance of an acoustic instrument but not an electric bass. Not to my ears - too much other stuff rendering any tonal perturbations insignificant. I do enjoy these debates though [/quote] Perfectly reasonable assumption/expectation. However, I did have a SSII that was originally a natural finish that was professionally refinished solid black and the respect luthier who did the job commented on the fact that he was as surprised to find that the finish did alter the tone of the instrument. I'd be interested to hear if anyone has done the reverse and what they found.

[quote name='henry norton' post='612398' date='Sep 29 2009, 08:03 PM']Was there a general trend with the solid colour/lacquered? ie. brighter, punchier? Does the the construction or choice of woods differ with solid finished Warwicks? Less neck laminates, cheaper varieties of wood, that sort of thing. If so, that could have a big effect.[/quote] Someone used the term 'Woodier' when applied to natural finishes and the definition that there was more 'warmth' and less 'tightness' in the upper-mid register... I'd agree with that. I found that the lacquer/paint finishes were more 'up-front' [u]in isolation[/u] BUT when applied to a band mix the more aggressive/toppy sound actually cut through the mix better; not to say that the natural finishes were lacking in the band mix but the paint/lacquer had some merit. The construction that I'm talking about was with regard to NT Streamers (predominantly late 80's early 90's models and most being Stage I's); number of neck laminates was of no consequence as I owned both types of finishes and in all of the various combinations of number and type of laminate. Body woods invariably consisted of Maple (with the exception of a couple of Cherry wood bodied models that epitomised the Warwick phrase " The sound of wood") and fingerboards were almost always wenge. There were no cheaper/inferior versions of these basses in respect of my experience. Actually Luke (LukeFRC) recently contacted me re. his experiences with a coloured/lacquered bass and his recent acquisition of a natural finish bass (both Streamer Stage I basses) and he was actually stating exactly what I had found from past experience. [quote name='mrcrow' post='612408' date='Sep 29 2009, 08:07 PM']leo used an unvarnished/unpainted lump of breadboard and he got on ok with the precision marketing and as noted hiding inferior wood/ply is a feature when the spec says alder...it means alder...in the woods all the alder trees are browny tones etc paint is to...gild the lily[/quote] I'm not saying one is better than the other 'painted v unpainted' a P bass body/pup will give you a P bass sound that will be absolutely fine but unless BO basses are less susceptible to the affect of paint I'd say that a painted model would sound different to a stripped natural model... IMHO! I've owned multi laminate basses in the past and though they may be cheaper to produce I'd be hard pushed to say that they were inherently 'inferior'; they are just different, the way that Alder v Ash is different OR painted V natural is different.

My £0.02 worth... I've owned painted/lacquered and natural/waxed Warwick Streamer basses and the finish HAS had an affect on tone. I accept that it it could be said this could be down the the individual instrument and or my change in playing style/approach to each instrument BUT I am talking about a sample of over 20 Warwick Streamer basses owned over the last 25 years and they have without exception had a different tone [u]dependent upon finish[/u]. I will add that I know full well that each bass has had some difference in tone (mainly dependent upon pup manufacture) but without exception the painted/lacquered basses had an overall tone that differed from the natural finish. Just my experience of a particular bass manufacturer but hey... the OP asked for opinions.

I was asked recently by a guitarist (just starting out in bands) exactly how many songs I 'memorised' as he was amazed that I could play with 2 bands at once (though I have been in up to 4 at any given time ); this was prompted by the fact he'd seen me at a one-off gig that I did with a band that I've not played with for quite a while. I tried explaining that I actually have a rubbish memory but these clips on youtube probably sum up my (ahem) [u][b]ability[/b][/u] quite well (give the first one a minute or so as it does get better/entertaining). [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM&feature=player_embedded#t=314"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM..._embedded#t=314[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4_f6pfabQk&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4_f6pfabQk...feature=related[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdVurJFMDUI&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdVurJFMDUI...feature=related[/url]

I heard a bit of interview with JBJ the other day and he quite clearly talks about the chemistry when the FOUR band members get together and the BJ sound being attributed to the FOUR musicians... that must smart if you are HMcD.

I use one (the 30"x19" one) with my pair of Aggie DB12's and aside from the isolation benefit it lifts the cabs that bit extra off the floor which does help with such diminutive cabs. The guitarist in one of my bands laughed when I first used it but wasn't laughing so much when we played on a big hollow stage and he struggled to control the bottom end on his guitar amp... I had no such problems! I have to confess that I thought I'd be losing some bottom end but that doesn't seem to be the case, I'd love to hear the science behind why that doesn't happen.

Was mine, then Luke's and now on eBay... you might have gotten it a lot cheaper from Luke though! [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Warwick-Streamer-Stage-One_W0QQitemZ280401141952QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item414935e0c0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Warwick-Streamer-Sta...id=p3286.c0.m14[/url]

[quote name='henry norton' post='608099' date='Sep 24 2009, 08:04 PM']Funnily enough - and rather more on topic - don't they just add more weight, or do you counter that by snipping off the excess string once they're locked in place? Sounds incredibly anal but I've recently discovered the delights of lightweight tuners on an erstwhile neck heavy instrument. Lightweight, locking machines, I'm off to the patent office........[/quote] You do snip off the excess string but that doesn't save a great deal of weight. The weight saving is with the tuners themselves; the locking tuners on the Bolin basses are about as light as a tuner can conceivably be!

[quote name='silddx' post='608037' date='Sep 24 2009, 07:10 PM']TBH I think headless basses are the ultimate in stability and ease of string change. They also look ace. I wish Warwick would make a decent headless based on the Steinberger system. Don't tell me about that hideous Nobby Meidel thing though.[/quote] The very first Warwick Thumb bass was intended to be a headless design... just saying.

[quote name='mrcrow' post='607953' date='Sep 24 2009, 06:00 PM']for a silly old guy who still rides a horse... what exactly do they do and why are they needed[/quote] Instead of relying on the string wrap keeping the string on the post, they are 'locked' and don't need any wraps around the post. Hence they require no thought/effort re. cutting and wrapping strings around the tuning peg (admittedly hardly a difficult job but made far easier non the less ) and are quicker to change. [quote name='mrcrow' post='607963' date='Sep 24 2009, 06:08 PM']been looking on google do they give enough break angle[/quote] Shouldn't make any difference, in fact on most basses they'd give more as the locking hole would be closer to the headstock face.

[quote name='owen' post='606283' date='Sep 22 2009, 11:45 PM']I have just spent some quality time with my Bolin NS5 trying different strings. 4 sets. With Sperzel locking machines - no problemo. Old set off, new set on in about 3 mins flat. They are the future.[/quote] I have to confess we may be in a minority here mate but I'm with you on this one.

[quote name='AttitudeCastle' post='607188' date='Sep 23 2009, 10:24 PM']wow! missed that one! Thanks dood! looks like a mega deal! I owe you![/quote] That'll be me then. I had mine already packed ready for delivery to someone else but the deal fell through, if you are interested drop me a PM. Buy it before the weekend and I'll supply a speaker lead of your choice (Speakon to 1/4" / XLR / Banana Plug / Speakon / whatever) and free UK delivery. [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=61114"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=61114[/url]

[quote name='largo' post='605752' date='Sep 22 2009, 04:16 PM']If you really want lightweight you should [b][u]sell[/u][/b] that Metro P/J and go for the NYC model with the chambered body. [/quote] I sold an 8lb NYC... ... and bought the Metro PJ.