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[quote name='WalMan' post='1156105' date='Mar 10 2011, 12:18 AM'][*]Family - Burlesque;[/quote] Brilliant stuff. About the only tribute band I'd be interested in playing in would be a Family/Streetwalkers/Shortlist one, though I might have to choose between bass and vocals rather than attempt both.

Too Rolling Stoned - Robin Trower.

[quote name='skankdelvar' post='1154206' date='Mar 8 2011, 06:17 PM']Yeah. And Day Tripper. And Sunshine of Your Love. And The Star Spangled Banner. And all those chart hits he played when he was with Curtis Wossname. [i]And[/i] he played boring 12-bar blues as well Think of all the really [i]original [/i]bands he held back by playing those covers like the big pant-wetting cry-baby he [s]used [/s]was.[/quote] And "All Along The Watchtower", and "Johhny B Goode", and "Hey Joe", and ..... I don't recall Hendrix and the others moaning about all the covers bands doing Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly covers etc, They just got out there and did it. For every hendrix there must have been at least 100 originals bands who sank without trace. Then as now, if the band has got something to offer and work hard at it then, if the audiences like it, and its the right day of the week and you happen to be in the right place at the right time, etc etc, then it will happen for them. If not it won't, but it's no good them bleating on about how they 'could have been a contender'.

[quote name='Bassman Sam' post='1153305' date='Mar 8 2011, 03:15 AM']For as long as I have played the bass, I have always gassed for a Gibson Thunderbird but just never got round to getting one. Well,yesterday I tried one for the first time and bloody hated it. . I loved the tone but it just felt so wrong for me so it's back to the old P-bass. I feel gutted as I really felt that this would be bass heaven for me. What a bummer. Have you ever had the same experience with your dream bass?[/quote] If you've been playing the old P-Bass for many years then its hardly suprising that something different will feel wierd. See if you can borrow a T.Bird and try it out over a week or so.

[quote name='JellyKnees' post='1153751' date='Mar 8 2011, 01:33 PM']It all depends on why you play music in the first play. I play (and write) music as a creative outlet. There's nothing very creative about doing covers, unless you're going to do something radical with them, in which case you're probably not going to get much work. Tribute bands, by their very nature, offer zilch room for creativity. The reason they suck is that they are killing the market for original music by creating a nice safe entertainment form for pubs and clubs to offer to the public. They are the flip side to the cheesiness that is the Stars in Their Eyes, the X Factor etc... If there are no (or very few) outlets left for original live music, then how are new bands going to develop in the first play? How will anyone ever know if they are any good or not? So don't give me all the crap excuses about entertaining the public.[/quote] It may not be what you intended, but to me this come over like you need to sweeten your grapes somehow.

So would I, but the original Bass Cube 100 for £200, or the 120XL for £435 ??? Its a big difference!

[quote name='icastle' post='1151883' date='Mar 6 2011, 09:00 PM']The XL range has one of those digital looper things built in plus an extra 20W. Other than that I can't really see the difference, still has the COSM stuff onboard if you're into that sort of thing. I had one of the original Cube 60s many moons ago (garish bright orange vinyl covering on it) and that was a really nice little amp.[/quote] And I think a tuner and some sort of "Setting" memory, but they all seem to be knobs and whistles rather than fundamental improvements.

[quote name='icastle' post='1151346' date='Mar 6 2011, 11:59 AM']Yes, the Roland Bass Cube 100 is being replaced with a new model (Cube 120XL). You can split the bass signal into two amps using a fairly cheap little mixer.[/quote] Or take the line out of the first and feed it into the input jack of the second, and set all the tones completely flat, and approriate gains etc on the second one? That way any onboard effects used on the first amp go through the second amp as well (if that's what you wanted). Edited to add: the orignal bass cube is (IMO) excellent, and at £200 it's a bargain. Depends if you want the added new features of the XL120 I suppose.

[quote name='xgsjx' post='1147627' date='Mar 2 2011, 08:18 PM']I had one of those Neutrik leads with the pop out bit to silence the cable. Great idea, but only lasted about 3 months & had to take the red pop out jack off & put a normal one on [/quote] When was this? I bought some a few years ago and had the problem that the sleeve would jam in the 'on' position. E-mailed Neutrik to complained and they free sent me samples of the revised design, which had just come in. I've since had no problems with the straight connectors (the 'new' design has the rubber cover), and far fewer problems (but still some) with the right angle connector (no obvious visible difference from the old one). They seem to have made the sleeve a looser fit on the shaft (Ooer missus) and made the springs a bit softer. The main problem with the right angle one seems to be that the shaft assembly is just push fit into the main housing, and it can move (if you wrench the cable while its in the socket, or stand on the plug etc). With the right soldering iron you can run some solder round the join which seems to help. Overall I think that they're a good bit of kit. Edited top add: However they don't work always work well with some active basses (others seem OK) - if you plug them in quickly the connection is made while the electronics is still powering up and you can still get a bit of a thump. Plugging it in up to the sleeve, waiting a second and then pushing it all the way generally works, but the bloke whose borrowed your amp/lead it wont know that!

[quote name='Defo' post='1146378' date='Mar 1 2011, 08:36 PM']SR505 is fantastic value, I love mine and saw that it one 5 string of the year in a US bass mag recently[/quote] And me! Made in Indonesia, but can't fault the quality. They are quite trebly so I tend to end up with the treble backed off, but I will be trying it out with ground wounds when I get 'round' to it.

Got to remember that most of those binned were binned before the existence of the Interweb or E-bay and together these have sent the knowledge of and the price of old instruments through the roof. If you had an old bass you didn't want 30 or even 15 years ago, and didn't live close to a music shop, what did you do? If you didn't know someone who wanted it you'd probably throw it away.

[quote name='Dave Vader' post='1147351' date='Mar 2 2011, 05:01 PM']had it not been over the fact that the keys player asked him if he was playing an f major or an f minor.[/quote] Theory aside, I'd be concerned that the keyboard player couldn't [i]hear[/i] the difference between a major and a minor (its a pretty fundamental difference in sound), though to be fair it could have been lost in the cacophony.

[quote name='xgsjx' post='1144280' date='Feb 28 2011, 11:17 AM']In the past I have seen newbies posting a Q as a new topic & then being told they should go & search & dig up an old thread to get the answer. It makes no odds to me as sometimes the old thread/new topic could be from before I joined BC or something I missed completely.[/quote] Total agreement here.

[quote name='Hobbayne' post='1072646' date='Dec 30 2010, 12:46 PM']I bought my first proper bass after my Westone Thunder one[/quote] IMHO A Westone Thunder is a proper bass! (based on playing a friends Thunder II)

I think it's great. Personally I find this sort of thing a welcome relief from todays over produced, over dubbed, pitch corrected stuff. At least you know its being made by people rather a a computer.

[quote name='dlloyd' post='1141219' date='Feb 25 2011, 01:58 PM']Actually, I would expect it in quite a few cases... you'd be daft to turn up to an audition for a Britpop type band with a seven string Conklin or to an audition for a country band with a spiky BC Rich bass.[/quote] Well yes, sadly you're possibly right, but that really indicates the narrowmindedness of the auditioners. That's also a fairly extreme case - I'd agree with others that choice of sticks is more akin to choice of string, rather than number of strings. Perhaps that's why drummers turn up without sticks - they don't want to upset the auditioners by bringing the wrong ones.!

[quote name='Bankai' post='1138015' date='Feb 23 2011, 01:07 AM']Personally, I'd immediately forget any drummer who turns up with the AHEAD carbon sticks for example.[/quote] I know that this has been followed up by others, but this just seems wierd to me. Would you expect to be immediately forgotton because you turned with an X brand rather than Y brand bass, or X rather than Y strings, or passive rather than active etc etc. ? I suspect not and think you'd be a bit pissed off if you were.

Woops, double post.

[quote name='4000' post='1141065' date='Feb 25 2011, 12:18 PM']So it's not possible to simply dislike something, not because it's "anti", not because it's "cool" to not like it, but simply because you don't?[/quote] Of course it is - I was just teasing Bilbo (you do know that don't you Bilbo?). Perhaps I should have put some smiley things in.

IMO the fundamental problem for anyone trying to make a living from (or just get paid for) playing, is that what you do for money other people do as a hobby and are prepared to do it for peanuts. I can't think of many other professions where that is the case (Whoring perhaps?). For me it's a hobby: If it's a choice of playing for nothing or not playing at all then I'd play for nothing. Fortunately for me no-one does what I do for a living as a hobby.

[quote name='Bilbo' post='1140919' date='Feb 25 2011, 10:30 AM']I think there is sometimes something of the anti-hero thing going on here. 'Everyone likes X so I won't' kind of thing. Happens with all the great technicians on every instrument.[/quote] Yes, and it happens to iconic songs as well, for example Mustang Sally, All Right Now, Sweet Home Alabahma, etc., but best not start on that old chestnut again. Ooops - I just did.

[quote name='lojo' post='1130821' date='Feb 17 2011, 12:04 PM']Sex on fire is the new Mustang Sally[/quote] Perhaps I'm narrow minded, but I can't really see 'Sex on fire' still being played in 40 years time.

[quote name='Jambo10' post='1130342' date='Feb 16 2011, 10:16 PM']When you hear many bands do the same songs over and over, you get a bit fed up with them all. So when I see a pub band etc, I want to hear something different, not always stuff that nobody has heard of, but stuff you dont hear all to often. Songs that make you think..."hey, I remember that"[/quote] Yes. Despite what I said above I do too, but then we of Basschat are not a representative sample of the typical pub audience. As musicians ourselves we probably look for something slightly different than the typical weekend pub crowd (and as bass players we actually notice the bass line - but that's a different thread). I, and I'm sure most of us, have seen the lift that an audience gets when it hears a good old favourite (especially if it's a sing-along song) start up, both from the floor and from the stage. Mustang Sally and All Right Now being prime examples. If you want to get the audience going then throw a few of the standards in early on. Leave the less well known stuff till they're warmed up and oiled. Of course the definition of good old favourite does depend on who the audience is, particularly their age.

I say this everytime this thread comes up, so apologies for repaeating myself, but the undercurrent of musical 'snobbery' in these threads really winds me up. Mustang Sally is a great song. If it weren't then it would not have survived as one of the all time great crowd pleasers. This is not 'flash in the pan' popularity but a song that has stood the test of time. All Right Now is another one of these, a classic and great rock song that it has become trendy for some here to knock and look down their noses at. Personally I like to play slightly less common songs (there are a lot of good songs out there), but you have to accept that you are, generally (there are always exceptions), going to get fewer gigs that way, and the more obscure the songs the fewer gigs you'll get. I would not slag off another band for playing these popular songs, and I certainly would not slag off the song as being a bad one. Bad songs do not get played regularly for 30 or 40 years! Neither would I slag off a band for choosing not to play such songs. It's the slight air of superiority which annoys me. As for Mustang Sally or All Right Now, I'd be proud to have written either of them. PS: I've never played Mustang Sally out, but have played All Right Now.

I think you're right - the camera frame rate and scanning action combine to give a sort of staggered strobe affect.