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Yep, @Baloney Balderdash and @velvetkevorkian I play bass, not guitar, so it's a standard tuning for bass with a low G# and I used to play 8 strings (not octave) basses, so yes it's fully usable. Check Yves Carbonne work. Stankey Clarke and Victor Wooten play tenor basses, but Stanley Clarke is using a short scale bass for that, which seems more suited for these guitarist tunings. According to Michael Manring, the piccolo set he's using is the best gauge for his multi-tuning approach, meaning the strings can go down or up without being too flappy or breaking when going up. Won't make friends, but balanced sets are pure marketing bullshìt.

But if you want a piccolo tuning try the D'addario EXL280 set, that's what Michael Manring is using for his multi-tuning Zon Hyperbass.

0.145 for A 0.110 for D 0.065 for G 0.032 for C

0.145 at the strict minimum for an useable G#.

Totally agree, the last chapter made me laugh a lot. The rest is a bit more foggy than all the knowledge of Bill Lawrence. That said, the book of Erno Zwaan (the guy behind the amazing Q-Tuner pickups) called Animal Magnetism for Musicians goes deep into the pickups guts and guitar building.

Now that you've seen the visible part of the iceberg, here's the rest: http://www.billlawrence.com/Pages/All_About_Tone.htm/Pickupology.htm And it's as complete as you can imagine.

This is more than a good start to understand them: http://www.billlawrence.com/Pages/Pickupology/Introduction.htm

Why not using the back as front, this way, you'll avoid the two discolouration patterns?

There's one closer, but not that close: https://www.zikinf.com/annonces/annonce-2149892

Of course, you imagine quite well, I've watched or heard almost everything he's made and can also recommend his album with Michael Manring and Dominique Di Piazza, which is not permanent show off, but virtuosity. I also owned a Noguera YC 8 fretless, what an excellent bass, but sometimes friends can push you to a sale... Yves even sold me some sets of strings for the bass and gave me a few advices on how to use the bass and why is tuning it lower.

Just in case I'm selling the bass for this event, but I think it's missing a lot of stickers and the holes should be going through the body, but that can be fixed very quickly... 🤪

Please don't pìss in your pants.

Urm, urm, that's not that much better with the fretted sibling... 🤦🏻‍♂️ So to become an endorser nowadays, simply don't learn music... That said, I like it when he starts playing with a plectrum, sounds like a washing machine finishing its cycle. 🤔🤘🤪

Never been to a show or a store, Chris? It's slappity slap everywhere. Try Dean Peer, as he is a different fretless player, a harmonic master user: But that mwah nasal tone is also the signature of fretless bass and what 99% of the players/listeners are waiting for. That said, I recorded an album with my now definitely over duet (as the guitarist with whom I played during 10 years sadly died last year) with both fretted and fretless basses (Leduc U-Basse fretted 6 and Leduc Masterpiece fretless 6), and afterwards people were telling me that I had a superb fretless tone on some tunes that were played with the fretted U-Basse, but it was also the idea... So reversed engineering here. 😉

And why do fretted players overuse slap? It's exactly the same question, Chris. 😉

If you want to hear a lefty 12 strings (no octave) fretless bass player in tune and having something to say, better watch this:

So the guy never played a fretless, decided to have one built by the deliriously expensive Warwick Custom Shop AND, that's where it's totally weird, without anything (dots, lines, ...) to help him being accurate, because he also decided to trust his ears, which aren't the best ones, that said. But, he's honest (and quite sympathetic too) and says he can be out of tune sometimes ... well most of the time. And the interviewer is asking such stupid questions about the way to play fretless to a guy who obviously can't play fretless!?! Amazing!

'til now, they are still in the wild...

Bassic is The German bass forum. 😉 https://www.bassic.de/

Excellent stuff! 👏

Try EuroSender, there was even a discount for BassChat members.