Old Man Riva

Portentous, simple and effective, eh? This does the job perfectly.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsSoDsxB7Yo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsSoDsxB7Yo[/url]

[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1449926078' post='2928043'] He’s wearing the tea cosy rather than the headband, so good choice… From the sublime to the ridiculous – here’s a couple of offerings from Pete Way…! [/quote] I always assumed Paul Chapman had played the intro to Anyday?!

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1449924168' post='2928012'] There are a lot of people who would be on that list, many of them already mentioned. Many of them were playing in pub rock bands & just jumped on the punk bandwagon when they saw there might be a bit of cash in it. [/quote] Indeed. And a number of the players mentioned and their fellow band members were fans of the bands they were supposedly rallying against - The Pistols liked Rod & the Faces and The Who; Mick Jones was a fan of Zeppelin and Mott the Hoople - which is maybe where Danny Baker's notion comes from? But that's probably one for another day!

[quote name='Cato' timestamp='1449922909' post='2927990'] If you buy into the idea that punk was a reaction against the overblown musical virtuosity of bands like Led Zep,The Who & Pink Floyd in favour of a bunch of kids picking up instruments and playing their first gigs a few days later then The Police probably don't belong. I'd definitely allow them in as part of the 'New Wave' though. I suspect that like most things musical labels are largely down to personal interpretation. [/quote] Danny Baker would argue that the main reaction was against the likes of ELO, Queen, Sad Cafe, Rod Stewart (in his Britt period) et al who were all in the charts at the time. The Police in with new wave is a valid point, though as someone else said it does feel slightly bandwagon-y. Their label, A&M, marketed them as new wave, also launching Squeeze under the same banner (both acts had singles on coloured vinyl at the time, which denoted a certain 'edginess' and added to any new wave credentials!)..

Ian Dury & the Blockheads - Norman Watt-Roy The Ruts - Segs

So in summary, Your Honour... It is entirely possible not to like a musician/artist and their music/playing and still have the wherewithal to respect their talent. It should also be entirely possible to state that one does not like a certain musician/artist without being made to feel that this opinion is somehow not worthy (though when offering such an opinion it may be better to try and find a better/different construct than, say, "aimless noodling" or "Emperor's new clothes"..). Straight from the court of Judge Fudge..

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1449859027' post='2927625'] Bobby Vega is fantastic and I bet he loves both McCartney and Pastorius too. [/quote] Do you know what, I think he genuinely does.. Mr V certainly references the "Jaco tone" when he's talking about his love for the old Acoustic 360 gear. If ever a bassist deserved to be showered with praise and lavished with riches it's Mr Vega.

Always loved this as an intro, great fun to play along to also... Tom Hamilton is a tasty player often overlooked.. Aerosmith - Sweet Emotion http://youtu.be/ymbNKQWYKRM

Here are three that can get overlooked but are well worth having a listen to... all lovely in their own unique way, IMHO. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qpNKq2cZBI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qpNKq2cZBI[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2KvM2T40RQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2KvM2T40RQ[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hqyfOSXYQc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hqyfOSXYQc[/url]

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1449687166' post='2926016'] Max Bennett plays bass on 'Song for Sharon'. [/quote] ...and what a marvellous job he does too. (always had it down as a fretted P-bass).. And then back to Wilton Felder on Don't Interrupt the Sorrow.

[quote name='Cato' timestamp='1449528845' post='2924471'] I recently discovered Herbie Hancock. The stuff he did with his Headhunters band is fantastic, it's very funky and has some great electric baselines, although it's rarely,if ever the lead instrument. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAlejqkd-gg [/quote] An album well worth getting hold of is the Fat Albert Rotunda LP. From 1969 it was originally written as the music to a Bill Cosby TV show. Funky, jazzy, cool and groovy it tends to get overlooked when HH's output gets discussed. Fat Mama is ace..

David Bowie - Time [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQSZR3NSqm8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQSZR3NSqm8[/url]

The opening track on Talk Talk's Sprit of Eden album is The Rainbow... Gets me every time.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCZnXg0vNs0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCZnXg0vNs0[/url]

Weather Report tour shirt bought at a Brum Odeon gig in 1978. Faded grey/black fleck with black collar and sleeves with a silhouette of the four band members on the back of the shirt. It's a medium and needless to say I have absolutely no chance of being able to wear it due to the, erm, adding of a few lbs over the years..

There's a good Bowie feature in the latest Mojo (interview with Tony Visconti and also members of Bowie's studio band - Maria Schneider Orchestra) along with a review of the Black Star album..

[quote name='ironside1966' timestamp='1448401992' post='2915208'] [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-PmQ3dFQvs"]https://www.youtube....h?v=e-PmQ3dFQvs[/url] Anything from Stump, a great band and a very inventive bass player. I think the bass player is on Bass chat, so respect [/quote] God, I'd forgotten about Stump. They were often on the The Tube, as I recall. Yeah, good/interesting bass player - did a flamenco finger-picking type thing. Here's another (often) forgotten 80s band with a good bass player.. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BZjbI55_gk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BZjbI55_gk[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp21F4fimkc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp21F4fimkc[/url]

Seen a few of the bands mentioned on here (!) but of the bands I could have seen but didn't Prince's Parade tour in 1986 and Jeff Buckley at Shepherd's Bush in 1995 are the two I wished I'd gone to.

[quote name='JellyKnees' timestamp='1331558242' post='1574689'] Ah the 80s...it all started so promisingly and ended up with Deacon Blue...never mind. One of my faves from the mid 80's... if you can get past the syn drums, it still sounds great to my ears. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu0LL-M5gxM&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL094ABECF15457526[/media] [/quote] Love that album - Pat Thrall's OTT 80s guitar playing is fantastic. Was a big fan of this lot at the time... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh4Ce-8z8Gw[/media]

[quote name='bartelby' timestamp='1448187318' post='2913460'] I went to see Tricky performing Maxinquaye in Bristol a couple of years back. I should have known it wasn't going to be great as Tricky has zero interest in that album and doesn't like playing in Bristol. When the stage doors opened the smell of weed was over powering, and I was about 40' away. All his hangers-on crammed themselves at the side of the stage and proceeded to piss about. Every now and again Tricky would wander over and join in, even if it meant missing whole verses out. The backing band were pretty awesome and when Tricky was into it, it was fantastic. He'd rearrange the song on the fly, signalling to the band to either slow things down or speed things up. But Tricky got so bored with the whole thing he decided to get some of the crowd on stage to dance about for a whole song and then he got his nephew to improvise some awful rap for another song while he disappeared for a smoke. Oh, and a couple of times Martina Topley-Bird [font=sans-serif][color=#252525]got so fed up she'd walk off stage and would have to be persuaded to come back [/color][/font] [/quote] I think it's fair to say that Tricky can be distinctly, erm, a bit hit and miss when it comes to gigs/live performance!

The bass line on the Manifesto track itself is great. Really clever/nice stuff - assuming from previous comments this is Alan Spenner? The first two Roxy albums do it for me (Graham Simpson, on both, I think) and there's a cheeky little bass homage to Day Tripper in Re-Make/Re-Model off their debut album... which Ferry then 'covered'/reinterpreted on his Let's Stick Together album which in turn features John Gustafson delivering a killer bass performance.

He can pretty much do what he wants for me, given his output between 1969 and 1983, so I'll always approach any new song of his wanting to like it. I think this is brilliant and I absolutely love it. Spent most of the morning with Mrs Riva trying to work out what it's all about - fundamentalism? one's own mortality? the state of popular culture? - and haven't a clue. He's nearly 70 and he's still managing to challenge the listener and get people thinking. I'm not sure I can think of any other artist who manages to do that. Genius Jones.

The Who circa 1981 on the Face Dances tour at Brum NEC. Massive Who fan at the time (still am) and watched a disinterested Pete Townsend barely go through the motions, the 'wrong' drummer in Kenney Jones struggle to emulate Keith Moon and John Entwistle overplay his way through the gig whilst being way too loud. The only one to come out of it with any credit was Daltrey - he was superb, but not enough to drag the others along with him. A massive disappointment.

[quote name='blamelouis' timestamp='1446376745' post='2898830'] Check out his work with Joni Mitchell he really was the Yeboah of bass .[/quote] From a Leeds point of view wouldn't he be the Duncan McKenzie of bass? - touched by genius but wholly unfulfilled. [quote name='roceci' timestamp='1446220833' post='2897890'] Jaco was undoubtedly a great musician with regards to playing, performing & composing. Sometimes he thrills me, sometimes he bores me.[/quote] That's it for me too. I was lucky enough to see him twice with Weather Report and it was one of the most inspiring things as a teenager, music-wise. As I got older and got into other things he'd done I found that there was more of his stuff that didn't do anything for me than did. And I know this will sound irrational (and it's obviously not his fault) but the one thing thing that has detracted from his legacy for me are the clones he spawned - completely cheesed off with seeing players throwing in harmonics for harmonics' sake and playing near the bridge with the bridge p/up on the Jazz honking like a demented duck, with little to no empathy for the music they are supposedly contributing to. It's great to be inspired by someone/thing but to rip it off completely isn't what he'd have wanted his legacy to be, I reckon.

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1445972244' post='2895845']I get the feeling that he could be in any band and he would just play whatever was right for that band.[/quote] Beautifully put, and (for me) probably the best compliment that can be paid to a player/musician. And as others have said, he just seems like a really good guy..