dave_bass5

I think those starting out are a bit more savy than they used to be.

Im really not getting this. I cant see why the fuss. If your a gigging band and you can pull people in then you will get paid, if you cant you dont do it. The advert seems pretty much up front to me. Im not arguing with anyone, i just cant see what the fuss is all about.

I dont know about the Line 6 version but the JAM will also work with Mac's. That might make a difference.

I've been using cheap AKG systems for years, specifically so I can go out front and do the mixing. When I first started doing this I too was shocked at how loud I was. It's been a real boon having the wireless system as we only use a small PA and don't play public gigs so its always down to me to make sure the levels are balanced. Saying that, the rest of the band normally hold back during sound checks so it all goes to pot anyway, but at least I know I'm at the right volume for the venue.

Another vote for Garageband and Appogee JAM. I think the JAM interface is more like £70+ but its a lot better than the iRig type of interfaces, worth paying a bit more if our serious about recording g and want the best signal to noise ratio. For amps I prefer Ampkit. It has Ashdown and Trace Elliot rigs, and I feel it gives a more solid sound.

Probably nothing to worry about but I found a Wizard Thumper (P pup) wouldn't fit my Squier as it was very slightly too long and wide. It was supposed to be a standard P pup but I had to file down both pick guards that I've had on that bass. Just thought I'd point that out.

[quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1358356643' post='1937738'] These seem to be universally recommended, but as common as rocking horse sh1t. If you've got one to offer, I'm interested ! [/quote] If i had one id be keeping shouting about it. They do come up every now and then though. Fantastic basses, ive had 3.

[quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1358356451' post='1937727'] Yowser, thats a lot of money for a MIM PJ Lozz. What makes it so special for you ? [/quote] This is the bass its based on, made in Japan. Not bad for the money although the look is an acquired taste IMO. [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/196215-fender-bass-power-jazz-special/"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/196215-fender-bass-power-jazz-special/[/url]

Second hand Lakland Skyline Duck Dunn, or you could buy a Squier CVP and CV Jazz, swap the necks over and sell the Jazz with the P neck.

I didnt think that was any more exciting than the original (much less really). Elevator music for people who just need something in the background.

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1358283815' post='1936456'] Nonsense! It will NEVER get the "BassChat Approved" sticker! [/quote] The way today has gone its more like Knobchat ;-)

For buying gear there is only one place........Basschat ;-)

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1358264163' post='1935901'] I think "Basschat Recommended" rather than "Basschat approved" but I definitely like the concept. Should we have a star rating like the hygiene people do? [/quote] So what would the shop in the original thread get? Some people have said they have had great service from them, myself included, others said its not on and they would avoid at all costs. Bass players eh?

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1358262103' post='1935822'] Can we please drop this please otherwise I'm going to end up locking this one as well. [/quote] Could you merge the two together and then make them go away?

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1358261688' post='1935804'] I can see that. But threads will always take on a life of their own after a certain length of time or number of posts. It is not the property of the OP and therefore (in my opinion) the OP should have no right to close a thread down. I think this particular thread was a bit of a one-off in the strange way that we were updated in dribs and drabs about an ongoing situation. They were more like throwaway FB status-updates rather than posts to a forum! There were several silly comments made that reflected badly on the poster. WoT, in particular, gave the OP a bit of a cross-examination in order to get closer to the facts and separate them from the opinions. I think he was acting in our interests in doing so, but can see how others might take the OP's side and think he was going a bit far. [/quote] I agree with that. I think if the info, or more info, had been forthcoming, and quicker then some posts might not have been made, but that cant be blamed on Gareth as he was of course waiting to hear back form various parties at the same time. A lot of his posts were quite calm and brief, i felt for him, but i can understand others pushing for more info, like you say, once started there is no way of telling how it will go.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1358260278' post='1935769'] Not strictly true I'm afraid. Gareth told me (and, I believe, some other NE-based members) by PM which shop it was. So he could be regarded as having broken confidence - a confidence which [i]we[/i] kept! I don't recall many people blaming the shop for the delay. However, the way they handled it was poor. As the initial deadline approached, and it was clear to them that it would not be met, they could have pre-empted Gareth's contact and simply told him that there were problems. That is good customer service. He should not have had to ask where his missing bass was. [/quote] My point was it wasn't posted by Gareth on a public forum, nor did he ever acknowledge any guesses about the shop. There were many people telling him to go and get his money back, and how he was getting messed about by the shop. Some said they would have done it months ago etc. At no point were MM or S&T ever blamed for the hold up, it was all directed at the "nameless" shop, and sounded liek a bunch of hot heads wanting to stir things up. We dont know the exact words used by the shop to Gareth, the delays in replying to him could well have been because they were waiting for replies themselves. Im in no way defending anyone, just criticising a lot of the earlier posts that seemed to offer no real help, and didnt seem to take all the facts known at the time in to consideration. I suppose these were just different views to mine but thats how i feel about that thread.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1358259231' post='1935735'] The delay will most likely be due to the sheer volume of orders being processed by EBMM and the priority being given to Bongo production at a given time . It's in everybody else in the chains' intrest to get the bass to the customer as quickly as possible so they can get paid , I would think . [/quote] Exactly my thinking. While the shop is the first point of contact there will only be so much they can do.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1358255845' post='1935635'] Yes, but there is still the "fact" that the bass took eight months to arrive when he was quoted four, and that comminications with the store seemed to be woefully inadequate. I think these factors were kind of forgotten when all the other stuff kicked off. [/quote] The way i read it was that the shop didnt hold it for 4 months, they took about a week, maybe 10 days to get it to Gareth once they got it (i could be wrong it was a long thread). If the shop didnt have it then its not really fair to put all the blame on them, when we know full well the route it had to take and the hold up was further down the chain. Im not excusing the shop for the way they miss treated Gareth but i cant see how the long delay was their fault.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1358254144' post='1935587'] But if someone was close to naming a shop...for example, then how unthinking was that..?? putting it politely [/quote] Someone did name the shop, although it wasnt Gareth and Gareth didnt respond to the post so he has never mentioned the name of the shop, nor was he going to. It just seemed to be someone jumping in and showing us how cleaver he was at adding 1 plus 1 plus 1 and coming up with 3.

I got it as we play a lot of social clubs and they dont like loud volume, so being able to restrict the volume of the bass without losing the punch, and for the times when i pick too hard, seemed like a good idea. I like the sound of a slightly compressed P bass, and i can definitely hear this at gigs, its just that i also feel with the way my drummer tends to get louder and softer (sometimes even during a single verse) what starts out as a good level or mix, can turn in to a cymbal mix and with the comp on i cant match the levels without making adjustments almost on the fly. Its just easier not to use it most of the time, or start off louder and play quieter. I realise of course that this is all wrong but its beyond my control, believe me ive tried many times to sort this out. At least with the metering i can tell if im pushing it too hard or when its approaching the point that i cant go any louder, it has allowed me to adjust things with the knowledge that im doing it right during the gigs. My Paradriver also compresses a bit, and while its not the same thing i do hear a bit of what i like. I do really like using the M87 for home recording though, thats where i feel it really makes a difference.

I never really liked Steps, although i had a soft spot for Girls Aloud