dave_bass5

I loved the Stomp. I found it much easier to use than the Zoom pedals. I guess it just hit the right spot for me. Took a bit of understanding but after that i was ok with it. Going back to my comment about needing good access to tweak things away from home, a PC/Mac editor is useless to me. I’m one of those that like to get hands on and know where things are in case i need them in a hurry . In fact i never used an editor for the 2 Helix boxes i had in the past. Saying that, i had a quick play with the phone editor for the two Zoom’s I’ve had recently and quite liked how fast it was at setting patches up. For me the ability to use a phone or iPad at a gig/rehearsal is a lot more practical than taking a computer along, as we have those with us anyway. I’m pretty sure I’ll order the B2-four again this week. I like that it has more switches, and a more viewable screen. Only £70 more than the MS-60b+.

With the MS-60B its access and ease of use. I like the idea of the extra switches on the +, which make it much more usable for me. I may use the B1-Four, but ive found it to sound a bit muffled, but with noise when ive used it at home (same with the MS-60B) The bottom line is, because I don't have the ability to set up a gig rig at home all my setting up and tweaking is using headphones or a small practice amp, neither are ideal, so when I get to rehearsals I need quick access to things. I don't feel either give me that compared to something like a Sansamp or something with more knobs. I know how to use both, both have been used with bands in the past, but I don feel any attraction to use them now. I did like the MS-60B+ but the black text on red screen is just annoying and hard to read. Might go back to the B2-four.

Yeah. I still have the MS60b and B1-Four, but i just can’t find myself using them. I’m really should just use what i have, but as you say, things have moved on a bit and it’s nice to have better if possible.

Or break the BC cardinal rule and stick with what you have, because it works 😂 Ive still got mine, but haven’t used it since I last posted (so only the once). I got it out again today and, well, yeah mine is going back as well. For me the one negative is the bloody colour scheme on screen. Very difficult to see whats going on with some of the screens. Might go back to the B2-Four, might not bother.

They do a full range version as well. The standard one is supposed to have some high end missing, to simulate a cable. The WL20L is full range and doesn't have the cable simulator effect.

I don't know why a lot of you guys don't just take up playing keyboards 😂

I can see all the benefits of having pull up banners, the can hold all your info (which stops you getting pestered while playing), they are cheap and portable, but i can help think that halfway through a gig the band are going to try and promote weight loss pills or mindfulness courses 😂

The company I work for makes pull up banners (and other types of soft signs), but ive never wanted to get one for my band. I think they look a bit too business like, as if you are at a trade show or event. We had to make a few up for a TV company recently and they wanted them made of cardboard. Very strange looking things.

This isnt always the case though. I remember many negative posts about staff in the shops in Denmark street years ago, especially one particularly shop. I guess its down to the person rather than the company though.

I rarely buy from shops these days, but the one time recently I made a decent sized purchase was for a RAB jacket from Cotswolds. This cost me £260. Within 6 weeks one of the seams has split, and when I took it back they said they have to send it off to RAB, first to get checked that I hadn't caused it, and then to see if it can be repaired. I felt this was unacceptable although couldn't do anything about it. It was a winter coat and I spent a good 5 weeks without it during the winter.

Give it a few days and they will have a returned one for sale 😏.

Yep, that's where I got mine from.

Real world being 'used it'? I posted my thoughts above.

You can download the manual, that has the midi implementation in it i believe.

Yeah, i was really just going by the stock presets, and the BDDI on its own (which has a presence knob). I’m pretty sure it can be improved. Cheers.

I must admit to being so taken with this, especially after not using my original one or B1-four in a band context. I do feel its missing a bit of top end sparkle, and that might explain why to my ears it had less hiss, but I know through a rig that wouldn't be an issue. it definitely sounded warmer than the B2-four.

I spent about 30mins tonight playing with the Zoom. I must admit it’s been the most instantly enjoyable pedal ive had recently. This could also be down to me getting my Jazz bass out for the first time in about 10 years, but as i was going through the presets i didn’t find any (well, maybe a couple of synth ones) that i thought could never be used. I like that the editing screen doesn't have a time limit (as far as i could tell), and it’s as easy to set up as the B2-Four is. Both (for me) easier than my B1-four. It also seemd to have less hiss compared to the B2-four, BUT, this was using the mono jack out in to an interface and in to my ipad. When i had the B2-four(s) i only ever used the USB out, so i wonder if its a bit brighter than the jack out. There was still tonnes of noise when going through the OD’s etc, so it’s nowhere near dead quiet. Thats not something id want to do at a gig or rehearsal. Choruses also sounded more usable, but again, different outputs and different basses. I like the fact that the amps have a cab blend, which the B2-four doesnt, but i felt all the amps sounded at their best with the cabs on 100%, so i cant seem using the blend knob much. Im not really interested in using the amps anyway, but they do seem pretty solid. I tried the foot control and it was surprisingly accurate and easy to do. All in all, really pleased with it, but im thinking of sending it back as i need the money for something else this month, and don’t have a gig for about 6 weeks. Id rather get it again in a few weeks so i can use it at a rehearsal though an amp, with the option of sending it back if i don’t get on with it.

Mine arrived this morning. it came in huge box, people at work thought I had ordered another pair of trainers. I was surprised to find that BAX has a warehouse over here. Good service so far and faster than Thomanns.

The BDDI sims ive tried have been more noisy than the real thing. The best was the one in the B2-four. More than passable, it had a bit more body to it over the B1-Four (not used my old MS60 for years so cant comment), but a pain to tweak live (not that i intend to do a lot of that, just harder to get to the knobs). The BDDI cost just over £100 more so yeah, quids in. If the B2-four had been a bit more compact and ran off batteries id have kept it (them). All my practice is with headphones at home, so i guess i can hear things that i wouldn’t necessarily hear with a band.

Have you received it yet? I’ve just returned my BDDI and also ordered the MS60B+ from Bax.

I do that as well. Along with the vocal mics I find I get enough in my IEM's that I don't need a separate ambient mic any more. My two guitarists are at opposite sides of the stage, and both have mics, so I get a nice close mic'ed spread (stereo IEMS). Most of my 'ambient' comes from the drummers mic though so I have him in the middle.

im still interested in getting this. I sent the 2 B2-fours back as I felt they were overkill, and I really wanted something that runs off batteries. Got a Paradriver and sent that back, and at the moment ive gone back to a BDDI, but can help feel it's over priced for what it is.

I think EBS_freak might know how to get around this issue. Not sure if there is any easy way though….. 😂👍🏻

Wouldn’t you need to run these to an input as well? These are meant for phones which have a Bi directional port i believe. I guess you could split the cable.

I sort of did,.as i mentioned i have my gig and rehearsal recordings on Apple Music and can listen on all my Apple devices. I too love how Logic can export directly to AM and then upload to the cloud. I normaly brak the long ones down in to two half’s but also export one long one for Drop box for the others.