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[quote name='wombatboter' timestamp='1337932624' post='1667496'] I was always very fond of her voice and her playing whenever she appeared on YT...I couldn't wait to get her first cd and put it on in the car during a long drive (that's when I can enjoy music the most). After hearing the cd, I was sure that I never wanted to hear it again. The compositions were musician's music with heavy arrangements without the talent of writing a simple hook or melody which you can remember. After four or five songs in a row my brain wanted to explode after one of the many "boodoepidoe" "poetsiewoeboedoe" and other "tunes" I had already forgotten after ten seconds. I am used to hearing jazzy tunes, I have no problem listening to fusion music and nice chord changes (I can listen to a complete Matt Garrison cd without any problem) but Esperanza's music got on my nerves in a way that rarely happens. I gave the cd to a friend because I never wanted to hear it ever again. Quite sure that it would never grow on me since I found it tiring and overcomplicated in its attempt to sound "mature". When I saw her on Jools, it all came back to me. Nice song but try listening to this a couple of times in a row, let alone a full album.. It was impossible to me without getting a headache. [/quote] I'ves listened to most of the album three times now. And I have sympathy for what you are saying. I am indeed tiring of it already, it seems to me to be better live. I think most 'jazz' does. I quite enjoy it live, on record there is nothing I like. The album, while having a few political messages in it sounds a bit twee to me already, too much sugar coating, too sickly sweet, but that's really the vocals and lyrics that are doing that. I don't know why, but most jazzers just don't seem to give much of a sh*t about anything but music, they need to live more like the original jazzers, so they have something related to life's travails to imbue their music with. Esperanza has certainly lived which may be why I liked it more, but I have to say the album is a bit soupy, it's ok though, I'll still listen to it. At least it didn't make me react in the way my experimental purchase of the last Jeff Berlin did. Even eating oysters and malt whiskey didn't make me projectile vomit in the way Jeff Berlin did.

[quote name='dodgnofski' timestamp='1337957837' post='1668075'] Sounds about right to me - dosh 'still' not in my Paypal account & if I was asked my opinion on Thomann - I would have to say 'avoid like the plague' as [b]I was told it was only free to return items if you lived in Germany [/b]- vor sprung!! [/quote] That's bollocks aswell. They should email you a free return label.

[quote name='Earbrass' timestamp='1337960046' post='1668109'] So that would be an Incredible String Brand? ...sorry it's Friday afternoon [/quote] ARRGH! Very good!

[quote name='dodgnofski' timestamp='1337945119' post='1667772'] Finally received an email today to say that Thomman are refunding my payment - less £15+ for the cost of returning it - over a week after they had safely received the item?? Their 'excuse' was that there had been a one day National holiday during that week - so even allowing for that, it still took a full week for them to return the dosh - which by the way 'still' not in my Paypal account??!! Just thought I'd give fellow BC'ers the heads up that if you do need to return an item to Thomman - be prepared to wait for your dosh!! ps - it is Parcelfarce they use [/quote] That's what they told me aswell last year. I didn't get charged for returning it though. But my opinion over three weeks of dealing with them was they are a bunch of lying, deceitful ***** who ship out B-stock masquerading as new stock.

I had an epiphany about two months ago when I bought some Warwick EMP 40-100s. They are incredible strings.

[quote name='bremen' timestamp='1337936180' post='1667545'] Rumour I heard right here on Basschat was that a lot of that classic unmistakeable Rickenbacker sound he got was actually from a Jazz. [/quote] There are clips of him recording with a Jazz, for Fragile I think?

Summat I learned from a book I have by Garry Hagberg and Howard Roberts. If you had the resources to get yourself into this rut or plateau, you definitely have the resources to get yourself out of it. Take your tired old shapes, licks and phrases and learn them backwards and upside down. It will unlock a creative part of your brain and it will lead you down new creative paths.

[quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1337875392' post='1666865'] I bet you're glad you chose to work with bass players, eh? [/quote]

The ones I've heard so far are masterful. And not a sniff of testosterone-fuelled competitive jazz bullshit. This is oestrogen-rich vibrant, playful, and compelling. No crass Norah Jones mum music here.

I just had another listen/watch. It's a very structured bass line, very clever arrangement too. Maybe I listen to too much Zappa or summat, but it seemed very accessible music to me, and it did actually bring to mind Tinseltown Rebellion era Zappa (without the biting lyrics but with added jazzisms), especially the middle section with the chromatic walking bass (LOVE the slur to the accented 1 in the second bar!), I can almost substitute her voice for Ray White's on that bit. And I love the fast section that precedes it with the bass on the sharp 7th. Aside from that, the horns are very cool, the drums are thrilling in parts, and she has a lovely voice with lush harmony BVs. Did I say the arrangement is superb too? Yes, it's natural and very organic. And FUN! Remember fun? I'll get the album on the strength of this. EDIT: Downloading now

[quote name='ped' timestamp='1337863291' post='1666544'] Yeah, I know it's not EVERYONE [b]but most people portray everyone in the UK as barely able to survive[/b]. Anyway, never mind. [/quote] [quote name='ped' timestamp='1337862362' post='1666521'] [b]It wasn't especially because you mentioned BC but just because I find comments that blanket whole groups of people[/b], 'This country, we are a nation of, etc' [b]actually are part of the problem![/b] [/quote] Come on, Chris, using 'MOST' does not let you off the hook here I don't recall anyone saying most UK residents are 'barely able to survive'. If they did, then it was probably because they have a political agenda, obfuscating the facts and trying to influence those who are uninformed or ill-informed to throw rocks at their scapegoat.

Well if you listen to LBC of course you are going to hear sh*te like that. There is a great deal of adult and child poverty, and deprivation, in the UK. You won't see these people in Nandos, or driving anything at all. Or shopping. I see an enormous amount of disabled parking spaces now, but I haven't seen any of those little pale blue three wheel cars for donkey's years. That must mean medical and technological advancement has reduced the number of people with disabilities to almost nothing.

[quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1337860138' post='1666485'] [b]As I've been disabled since I was 19 I don't find the Olympics very enjoyable, maybe the Paralympics would be better for me?[/b] She's a musician fine, just one I've not knowingly listened to before & what I heard of her playing on Jools did not impress me regardless of what instrument she was playing. [/quote] Firstly, sorry you have a disability, but as Francesca Martinez said recently, once someone told her 'you are NOT disabled, you are FRANCESCA and you are unique' it changed her life completely. Again with respect, you have sort of reinforced my point somewhat, in that (intentionally or otherwise) you imply you only enjoy things you feel you might be capable of or do already. Although I feel sure that's can't really be the case.

[quote name='ped' timestamp='1337859556' post='1666473'] Come on Nige, you're coming across as a bit 'judge, jury and executioner' of late!! 'This country' etc... there's room for everyone's opinion and nothing is more subjective than music. [/quote] Mmm, I don't really see it that way, I'm only stating my opinion mate, strongly phrased though it is I suppose. It wasn't some sort of attack on BC which is why I presume you picked out that line, it's really just that I find the role of the bass is often elevated to supernovae-like proportions on BC quite often. It's the music that's important, so when someone says 'still room for more bass' like the bass is the most important part of the band, to the exclusion of all the other instruments and vocal AND SPACE for which there is theoretically also 'more room', I feel the need to help the poor soul

[quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1337853814' post='1666315'] Yeah - watched it again on youtube - enjoyed it more 2nd time, but still room for a lot more bass IMO [/quote] With respect, this is the sort of attitude BC is full of, and it's one I can't stand. You seem to be infatuated with the instrument instead of the music. From what I saw, she is a composer, bass is her channel, not the object. She's a MUSICIAN, not a MECHANIC. She plays THROUGH the instrument, not ON it. The Olympics is coming soon, perhaps you may find more enjoyment in that?

[quote name='Hutton' timestamp='1337845610' post='1666181'] I was massively impressed and am looking forward to Friday's show. [/quote] You know what, I am too! The number she did on Tuesday was a brilliant bit of composition, and it seemed truly from the heart. I could really FEEL her personality in the music and her performance. I so rarely get that with music of that genre, with all the excesses and pressures of virtuosity and peer pressure which usually results in a confused and unworthy mess that represents nothing of value. I think I'm an Esperanza convert, she gave me the unexpected, I really enjoyed it and I want to hear and see that performance again.

[quote name='stoker' timestamp='1337769395' post='1665069'] [b]I thought she was rubbish IMHO. Nice bass but she just seemed to be making noises on it as opposed to playing[/b] and never like like that paticular style of music anyway. [/quote] Really? Are you being serious?

There are two threads mate

Anyway, I've entered. I also entered that Win A Drum Set competition that dood put up on Facebook yesterday.

Honestly, WTF? We really are a nation of f*cking moaners aren't we. What sort of impression are we giving? That someone ever so slightly MIGHT have broken the forum rules and we are very pissed off about that? That Facebook is the devil? That we refuse on principle to enter a competition if it involves social media tactics?

Thanks Clarky, it was lovely to see you mate! Glad you enjoyed it. And thanks for taking some pics

[quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1337645536' post='1663516'] And as my favourite thing to sex [/quote] Love it! A great look! You need some black silk gloves my friend

[quote name='ThomBassmonkey' timestamp='1337644478' post='1663507'] Here's me a while back at a hot and sweaty gig: [/quote] Goog god! You look SO different to how I imagined you! Good shot too.

[quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1337641940' post='1663492'] Those gloves are actually pretty stylish dude [/quote] Thank you! I honestly feel naked without them. playing without them feels very strange now. I can't actually play happily with bare hands, I have a fully developed glove fetish.

Just had a really lovely gig with Kit at the Half Moon in Putney. Clarky, thanks so much for coming! And for taking pics! Great to see you mate.