Al Krow

The discussion around what the FOH is getting got me thinking and it seems to me there are typically 3 levels of flexibility: 1) Just post EQ DI out => any changes to your stage volume will also impact the FOH volume e.g. Quilter BB800 2) Pre EQ DI out option => FOH gets whatever the amp receives. Changing the amp vol or EQ won't impact the FOH signal - standard feature on most amps At first blush could be considered limiting because any effects (drive, compression) or EQ to get to your "sound" done on the amp won't get fed through to the FOH. But actually if you do your tone shaping and drive / compression / fx on your bass preamp and pedalboard then you can get a fair chunk of your "sound" to the FOH whilst having stage volume flexibility. 3) Amp has a a separate DI volume control e.g. Mesa M6 Bingo! You get complete flexibility to go post EQ assuming your sound guy is cool with this - the ones I've dealt with at venues generally would be. You then get to benefit from the amp's flavouring also. In the case of the M6, that's going to be a BIG plus (which @bassfan can hopefully confirm as he's ahead of me in gigging his M6) as, based on my albeit limited experience, it's got the best tone of any amp head I've heard.

Just received a Smoothhound wireless set from Geoff. Everything as described, very smooth transaction and a pleasure to deal with! Many thanks, Bas

I think the issue is that the sound guy (in the venues I've been to where we have had one) will set everything at sound check time and may tweak once the audience is there during the first couple of tracks. If you are turning yourself up mid set so you can hear yourself better on stage, you could risk being very loud for a while before the sound guy realises what's going on and has time to react. Not going to go down well with him or your band mates.

Sold one of my Yammy BBs to Tyler. We met up 'half way' in W London which saved me the hassle of packaging it up and sorting out a courier - always appreciated with the bigger bits of bass gear. Really smooth transaction and great guy. I'd have no hesitation in transacting with Tyler again or recommending him to my fellow BC'ers. And, as darned good bass player, I know he'll be putting the Yammy to better use than I would have managed to Cheers buddy - enjoy the bass!

@TJ Spicer what a great post and great pics! Totally delighted you're liking it a lot and I look forward to seeing and hearing news of it in action. Devon and Manchester in one weekend!! I was kinda worried that it might fall a little flat compared to the august company it's now finding itself in, particularly your Sadowsky, but it seems to be holding its own for your affections so far

+1 to @EBS_freak's comments - he's pretty much nailed it. Only point to add is that on another thread @operative451 mentioned that she was using a Joyo ZGP (costs around a £10) to cancel PSU noise. Not sure whether she is using it for just one PSU --> one pedal or for daisy chain purposes; but it seems to me if you went PSU --> Joyo ZGP --> daisy chain you could potentially get the benefits of low noise without needing separate PSUs or a power brick with isolated outputs. If that's right / works, I may have just rendered forking out on a Ciocks DC5 a bit otiose! 😀

Another example of great service from Chris at Smoothhound. I messaged him about a replacement battery cover for my transmitter and he replied within 24 hours offering to replace and post (I presume for free). Amazing. I've had mine for a couple of years now and just managed to source a spare / back up from a fellow BCer. So yup, I'm a big fan of the product and happy to recommend to any bass player thinking of going wireless.

One question 4 basschatters 10 different answers none of them correct 😂 But it stops us going out and mugging old ladies, so it serves an important social function. ...I did promise the great god (actually more short scale lover these days ) Osiris that I would be a good chap and feck off, so I'd best go do that now! 😂

Would be really interesting to A/B the Mesa M6 with the Handbox. Similar weight, the Mesa is 600W in 4ohm / 2 ohms which gives it a bit more headroom. And I'm guessing that the Mesa is like double the price which is clearly very much in HB's favour... 2890 Zl at 4.89Zl to the £ = £591 add my guesstimate of £109 shipping, £25 forex = £725 to your door. Or a bunch of bananas less if you can get from someone used 🐵🍌

And I guess the important thing with all of this discussion around Q is not to get overly concerned / bogged down (as I am rapidly in danger of doing myself - haha!). A key point is that a "surgical Q" in the context of bass tone doesn't necessarily imply a better tone. In fact a broader and smoother Q could well be the better sounding option. It brings to mind the (somewhat out of fashion these days) smiley EQs we used to see across the ubiquitous TE amps in all rehearsal rooms 'back in the day', which clearly had a smoothing intent to the overall mid scooping of the bass EQ.

I'll feck off, like a good chap, now then 😉

Agreed for 3 band. Just to confuse matters (sorry!) the B3n GEQ, which is the alternative being discussed for the OP, is actually a 7 band EQ

And the fact that you preferred this to a Mesa WA also says a lot, too! (Speaking as an M6 owner who loves his amp).

Apologies if I am being unnecessarily picky, but not sure that last bit is quite right given the point about "Q" that John mentioned?

And just taking that one step further, be interesting to know how narrow band the "Q" is on a normal (non-para) EQ with a fixed "Q" setting? I'm guessing pretty narrow?

Yup - that should work. Fyi - the Bass GEQ effect on the B3n has a 7 band EQ including 400Hz and 800Hz which should pretty much get you there? If not, you can use the Para EQ to sort the 1kHz as you are proposing.

Oh my...that does look like a nice piece of kit. Definitely warrants it's own thread Spyder!

Paul very kindly drove for two hours (ok his Sat Nav was partly to blame) to collect a spare Ibanez case whose parting got me de-cluttering brownie points from Mrs Krow, and for which he very kindly decided to line my pocket. Great to have a quick catch up over a beer. As a fellow Ibanez (& Nordy Big Single) lover and BF SC user also playing in a covers band, well he's clearly a man of taste. Sadly I fear he may shortly be lost down a double Helix thread... Top gent - and more than happy to recommend dealing with him. Cheers, Bas

Another Smoothhound fan here! The back panel issue you refer to - is that the plastic battery cover on the transmitter?

Just sold Ed a pedal. Good comms and quick payment; in fact a completely hassle free transaction. Very happy to recommend. Hope you enjoy the pedal! Cheers, Bas

Yup it makes good sense at 4ohms, for sure. But my current regular gigging cab is 8ohms... And I'm about to get a Fearless F112 cab (which is also 8 ohms and before you ask, nope I'm not planning on pairing them up to get a 4 ohm load 😃) I came across this rather 'on point' thread from a couple of years back which was very useful for my set-up-to-be and also a little bit fruity...