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just trying to find some info on these cabs, i realise i can email alex but i have seen he is very much over worked when it comes to emails atm so im hoping some of you guys will have some answers? basically im really happy with my current swr/hartke rig but i just can't get the idea of having a big baby out of my mind! love the looks and also like the abilty to be able to get very clear lows at high volume, i can get the clear lows with the hartke but obviously i can't get alot of volume, its fine on its own for my blues band but my downtuned metal band it struggles with out a 115 underneath. could the big baby work as a single stand alone cab? id use my swr headlite so it would be getting im guessing about 300w as it puts out 400w at 4 ohms, would this be enough power? also im looking at getting one secondhand, what sort of price is fair for a secondhand big baby? i know its unlikely but even if i sold my hartke and 1153 trace cabs i can't afford a big baby, plus i cant afford the wait with no cabs. but im up for selling my cabs to fund a secondhand big baby, if it will be ok as a one cab option, however later i would be looking at adding a second cab either a bb sub or another bb probs the sub as it is less pricey but thats another desicion. so basically looking to know; -can i use it as a single cab -second hand price and ive asked on some old threads but they may not be being watched anymore but any one have a big baby near plymouth? as obvioulsy trying one out would be the ideal thing to do. all help thank full andy

any big baby love?

anyone have a big baby in the southwest near plymouth? andy

Anyone got one of these or a big baby sub around plymouth?

[quote name='Mudpup' timestamp='1349297825' post='1824528'] The LH500 does have mids - you just need to rethink it and turn the bass and treble down and the volume up. If you can get to Herts/Essex border i have a GK MBFusion and a Hartke LH500 you can try out. I also have an Ashdown 15" cab with an Eminence Deltalite speaker in it which does a very good Barefaced impersonation (up for sale if anyone wants it - havent done piccys yet but its a 9/10 cosmetically and weighs next to nothing. £130 would sort it) [/quote] Isnt flat eq on the lh500/1000 bass and treble at 3 and mids at 10? So mids anywhere but full gives you a scooped sound?

[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1349337903' post='1824773'] The point I'm always trying to get across when discussing pairing mismatched cabs is related to their differing phase response. The best way to understand of this is to think about the pickups on a Jazz bass. Think of the neck pickup as being a cab with a more bassy sound and the bridge pickup as being another cab with a more trebly sound. The common assumption is that if you pair a bassy cab with a trebly cab you'll end up with a stack that does bass and treble well, whilst getting the mids from both - "best of both worlds". But what actually happens when you both pickups on full on a Jazz bass (or any other bass with two pickups in parallel)? You don't get the bottom of the neck pickup plus the top of the bridge pickup and the mids being a mix of both. You get the bottom of the neck pickup, the top of the bridge pickup but much less midrange than from either pickup! Why is that happening? It's happening because there are phase differences between the two pickup's output and so instead of all the output summing fully, some of the output sums partially, some of the output cancels partially and some of the output cancels fully. This is a good thing with bass pickups because it gives us a very different third tonal option on a two pickup passive bass. The same thing happens when stacking dissimilar cabs. Now on the one hand this isn't a problem if the end result is loud enough and sounds right. But on the other hand, the reason someone tends to buy a second cab is because they want to add something in terms of both tone and output to the tone of their existing cab and as the pickup situation illustrates, you won't get that tidy summing - you'll get partial cancellation so the resulting tone will be unpredictable and equally importantly the rig will be less efficient. There's also the matter of mismatched power handling and the cabs' response diverging further at high SPL when things become less linear, so the rig may perform worse and worse as you turn up - exactly when you don't want it to become less efficient! We designed the Compact and Midget to work together - the two drivers have identical motors and the cab alignments are such that the phase response is very close through the lower frequencies (where it matters - at higher frequencies the path length messes with the phase response whether you have identical cabs or not). [/quote] Well explained, but i do think that some of this makes ppl believe that putting a 410 and 15 together is wrong which is bad, i trust the science but other ppl on here seem to take this science bit far to seriously when ppl ask for advice. As ppl on the forum say one thing but if you go to live show most bands will have a 410/15 setup. So ii can see where newbies get confused, i just think the first and most important bit of advice should be to listen and if you like what u hear then your ok. Obviously make sure cab ratings are ok but thats easy to do. Andy

Not to stop ppl discussing this further but whats all the fuss? If you want to mismatch whats it matter. Also arent ppl who put a compact and a midget mismatching? I know its not only about size after reading through a few threads on this but if having a mismatched rig works for you then i dnt see the big fuss Andy (im prepared to get slated for this comment btw)

i used to have the pro-6 and there was no way that it had 1100w at 4 ohms so im guessing the 8 wnt have 2500. on the flip side, never had a prob with the sound so i'd imagine it will sound awesome, but if the power input is the same as the 6 id be wary as my 6 did used to trip the mains in nearly every pub my old band used to play! was very annoying. andy

in that price range id look at markbass, there eq is really good and also you've got the filters which can change the sound of the amp alot. plus they aren't lacking in power at 8 ohms if your using a single cab, also ill also put forward the headlite a very nice really light amp with a really adjustable eq, and the aural enhancer which i actually like(i know some ppl dnt) andy

thanks bud

cool glad i got it right, not that im concerned about mixing cabs just wanted to make sure my thinking was correct. andy

i think the only way you'd cause damage by doing this would be by taking 2 cabs of different rating and putting them together with a high output amp, is this a valid reason for not mixing the cabs? ie lets say a 200w ampeg 115 and a 410hlf which goes to 500w with an svt pro-6 1100w at 4 ohms, you might not notice the 115 farting due to the volume of the 410? as it would easily take the 550w being put to it? so a newbie to this setup could through inexperiance blow there 15? i put my 112 hartke with my 1153 trace cab but as there both 300w and my headlite is only 400w, i dnt worry about pushing the cabs but it sounds good so i dnt worry to much about mixing them. is my logic right?

yeh getting the 8 ohm cab means you can add a second cab later. im sure lozz will be along soon, but i wouldnt worry markbass heads are loud so 300w in to a 410 you'll have a nice loud rig! as i said im sure lozz will be along soon hes pretty much got the same rig apart from the head hes got the lm tube. andy

just wondering if anyone has a dubster i could try out there?

a 600w 112!? they look really nice! shame on the price but id like to try one. andy

boss tu-3 bright leds easy to see on stage and also built like a tank! andy

Nice dude

if your stacking vertically they might not be any louder but are just closer to your ear so easier to hear. glad the rigs working for you tho dude! need pics tho to or it isn't real! andy

The hartke is an awesome little cab, i use it on 4 ohms on its own just to get the full power from my amp but like the guys have said there no really volume increase. But they are super light ill def grab another when i can. Its the only cab ive seen with an impedance swtich Andy

Get some cardboard and bubblewrap and do the best u can. Andy

nice mate