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Thanks Mike257 and Bluesparky I'm waiting on the call from my local shop to tell me we my unit arrives. Looking like Tuesday now. Then I'll dive into the world of DMX. Looks like fun. Thanks to everyone who contributed.

Thanks again TimR. I used a Ryger controller with two sets of 4 coloured Par56 cans for years but now that LED/DMX is the way of the world I want to recreate what I had. Basically six preset scenes that covered every option I needed for a good pub/club gig. I'll phone the shop on Wednesday and see if they did actually ask the KAM rep.

Latest, I went to the shop where I bought the KAM Powerbars and the chappie said he'll speak with a couple of his reps and I've to phone next week. He seemed a bit nonplussed when I explained that i wanted the units to do more than the pre-programmed pedal allowed. Will see what transpires and no doubt come back to Basschat for more advice. Thanks all.

I'd not heard of Trouble Funk before. Now i'm hooked. The whole documentary is very good.

Thanks Bert, Tim and Norris. Now I know that it seems possible to control KAMs with one of these I've dug out my KAM users manual and am ready to delve into the dark art of DMX Wish me luck.

Thanks Bertbass but the Ryger website from your first URL says "[b]T[/b][b]he FL-P1 will NOT control KAM Powerbars"[/b]

Can I buy an inexpensive DMX controller and use it to replace the footswitch on my KAM Powerbar lights? The lights are excellent but the footswitch provided only works in a cycle programme which is a bit of a pain. Will something like the Obey 4 or similar work with KAM? I bought this set to replace my really old and knackered Par cans which I operated from a Ryger controller, this gave me lots of options to light the stage in a variety of scenes. OK it wasn't the Pink Floyd show but it was pretty good for my requirements. My budget is under £100 Thanks

Saturday night at (or to be precise) on The Ferry in Glasgow Always a great gig with a brilliant audience. We're a five piece and the keyboard player plays guitar on two songs. The photograph was taken during Quo's magnum opus - Slow Train. [attachment=173742:TMN5Guitars.jpg] This Saturday we're heading to Falkirk.

Everyone likes to show off their shiny bass but I think we need to see some of the home made covers to provide inspiration. Pix please...

A holiday caravan park in Fife. Entertainment is usually of the one man/woman + midi files type of show. We were booked as a full five piece, PA, lights, Quo Tribute Show. Were a bit concerned when we arrived and saw the venue - always a risk of children running around and asking for Lady Ga Ga songs but they were all back in their caravans by the 9pm start time. The show was sold out and people were turned away, a famous first for us. Played two 75 minute sets and while no-one danced or shook dandruff onto the floor the audience reaction was excellent and we went down well. Sound was good in a low ceilinged room full of human baffles. Talk of a return booking next year. We really must concede defeat and learn bloody In The Army Now for next time. Only downside was getting home at 3:30am but that's Rock & Roll Thengyewangoonite!

You're not wrong. Bass is a dark art known to a minority. Like goalies.

Cool, I've seen Quo-Caine clips on YouTube. Good band and one of the few Quo tribs with a keyboard. Same as us. This is [i][b]StatusNo [/b][/i]playing [i][b]Slow Train[/b][/i] (with the keys player adding a third guitar for the jig) [url="http://youtu.be/wEgB9H-73Co"]http://youtu.be/wEgB9H-73Co[/url]

Thanks for the reply. What's Colin's band called? I'll probably know of them. We're a close knit community in Quo Tributeland Sifting through some video from the weekend to find a suitable clip.

8 Feb 2014, The Ferry, Glasgow Life in Quo tribute land.

Thought I'd give an update and close this topic. Thanks to everyone who participated. Saturday's show was very good with a couple of hundred people making plenty of noise. The stage was hollow. I gave the sound man a pre EQ signal. My amp settings were Gain 4 / Bass 7 / Mid 4 with a 2 KHz boost / Treble 7 I was told that the bass sounded good from the audience and could be felt in the chest. So that's a good sign. Onstage sound and vol was good too. Next show is a smaller venue with a different PA that we'll mix ourselves but I'll be sure to use my new knowledge. Bye for now.

OP here. I spent time at home trying some of the advice you've all given and have settled on a setting that's different to my usual but sounds like it might do the trick. I'll try it at volume in the studio this week before the gig next Saturday. Decided to use the Zoom purely as a tuner and bring a specific effect in for one song in the set. Have made notes for the soundman too. Thanks again.

[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1391176665' post='2354163'] Indeed you did, which is much more useful than just saying "mids" Without knowing the actual problem we have no way of knowing which frequency is lacking and/or overpowering. OP - when you play live, do you give the soundman a DI pre or post EQ? Some amp+cab setups will accentuate or attenuate specific frequencies, so you end up tailoring your EQ to the rig. If the rig has a very different response to the soundman's PA rig, and you send the soundman a post EQ signal, it may be near impossible for him to "fix" it to suit his rig. [/quote] Pre-EQ

More thanks to you for taking time to comment. My original question comes from playing for more years than I care to remember with what I thought was 'my preferred tone' that tended towards bassines. It's often a good exercise to re-evaluate things and realise that perhaps I'm stuck in my ways. I didn't mention the FX pedal in my post because I am looking to find a better setting from the amp & guitar set up first. I know the fx is frippery and should be introduced when all else is in place. I don't normally use my own amp at rehearsal studios but humphed it along last week to try a few things with my band.Then I made the mistake of asking for opinions on the sound they liked. Bad move! Lead guitar said "I like that treble tone" Rhythm guitar said "It's got to be bassy" Drummer and keys offered no opinion. The guys are great people and good players and we've been together as a band for three years. Anyway, next gig is Feb 8 at a great venue with in house PA so I'll let you know how it went (if anyone's interested) and thanks again for the input. Haven't been a BC member for long but am glad I joined.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1391087787' post='2353073'] Did you get what you expected? [/quote] I did indeed. Thanks to everyone who commented. I'll use all your advice and see/hear the difference.

Trying to keep this simple so I can understand the answers. Imagine we have a combo amp with a 15" speaker A passive bass Gain - Bass - Mid - Treble - Volume controls How would you set it to deliver a good standard rock tone? No FX or other parametric trickery on the amp to confuse the issue. Ideas for setting the basics please. Up 'til now the sound used has been pretty bassy which suits onstage but we've noticed that it seems to create issues for the sound engineer at venues with house PA and it doesn't seem to record well on a mid price DVD camera. Really two questions there I suppose but I look forward to your ideas. Thanks

I received one of those pick maker contraptions as a gift a year ago and now use nothing but pleccy shaped old bank cards. Works a treat but be sure to avoid a section with raised numbers because when they catch the strings it feels like fingernails down a blackboard.

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Thanks for your comments Burrito and Woody. I won't be doing this gig after all because the people at the venue couldn't organise the proverbial party in a brewery. But perhaps that's a whole different Bass Chat topic. Back to dealing with proper venues and professionals for me.

Yes but they won't be with us this time.

I'm an experienced player in an experienced band who have always been paid by the venue or promoter for years and years. We've decided to hire a small club to try a different approach with PA and sound person provided as part of the hire fee. Only drawback is that it's [b]our job to set the fee and collect money at the door.[/b] Any ideas on how to do this as the whole band will be performing at the same time and we don't have anyone spare to act as cashier? All suggestions welcome.