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Hi y'all I'd be interested if anyone else shares my experience of the Overwater Tanglewood Classic Jazz. I bought it so I could choose P bass or J bass vibe, according to need or mood. But the nearest I can get to an edgy deep P bass growl is by mixing the bridge and neck pups equally. If I select ONLY the neck (split P bass style pup) I actually get more treble mixing in, plus what to me is an unpleasant honk. I can't get a grip on why that should be. FYI I'm running D'Addario flatwounds on her. I can coaxe a pretty good p bass grunt from the neck pickup (pickup selector full clockwise) but only by filtering out the treble and mids on the amp EQ

I've been through 16 basses and almost half as many amps/cabs in three years. Of that lot, my go-to bass was a £10 Aria P Bass clone, although now it's a Tanglewater Classic jazz that jumps in my lap. Some basses do that and some don't. Plus a good setup and experimenting with different strings can make a big difference - they're not all the same, including between different basses. And amps do matter. I could never get on with my TC BH250, but my Warwick Fet IV will be buried with me. Looking back, my best bargains were the £10 Aria and a £50 HiWatt combo. Never had them at the same time but I think that would have done me - £60 for bass and combo. End of! .

Just bought an acoustic bass from Andy. Very easy transaction with a nice chap. What more do you want in life?

Very helpful and concerned that the deal goes smoothly, and tolerant towards awkward customers like me. Deal with confidence.

[quote name='jezzaboy' timestamp='1408650433' post='2532289'] I was on the verge of buying the Jazz with the P/J setup from one of my local stores for £219 I think it was. But ended up buying an old Yamaha BB. Still like the look of those Overwaters though. [/quote] I had a Yamaha BB300 which played and handled like butter. Very nice.

Yeah, clearly Nevada have the models mixed up. Being the OP, I confirm I now realise I actually have a classic J, not a contemporary, so thanks for clearing that up. I have tried to clarify with Chris May, but I've found before Overwater's email response is not in the same class as their luthery so nothing's come back. Like Mornats I have always until now had great experiences with Overwater strings, and what's more they're very cheap. I have no idea why these weren't any good. But I do find strings aren't just the twangy bits that give truss rods something to do. The same string can sound very different on different basses. I used to run Overwater nickels on my Hohner 6 and they absolutely sang, while D'Addario nickels wrestled the richest sounds out of my Peavey Grind 5. But when I tried swopping them over neither set sounded anywhere near as good. What's I've found in this case, for me personally, my Overwater Classic J loves D'Add flats, but YMMV.

Ah ha, you see how confusing it is! That's what i thought but the shop told me I was getting a Contemporary Jazz and it says that on the invoice. Plus that model with those features appears on dealers websites as the Contemporary Jazz. Also some of the their jazz basses are like twice the price of others but with the same name? . I don't know how such a prestigious manufacturer gets away with the random tangle of branding which is 'Overwater by Tanglewood' (and it only says Overwater on the bass itself), and the confusion over which model is which. When you buy any other bass it pretty much says what you're getting on the tin. Actually I don't think they do get away with their confused marketing. I suspect they would sell a lot more if they sorted it out.

Yes it was designed to be EADGC. I have seen posts by people tuning it B-G instead and claiming it's fine, but really the laws of physics and most other manufacturers reckon you need at least a 34 if not 35 inch scale for excellent B performance. However, I've been flamed for this opinion on Scott's own forum ages ago so I'll shut up.

You can't really buy a bad cheap bass. They're all there or thereabouts. With £200 to burn recently, Mrs 12 having decided to try reverse pyschology ("Darling, you MUST buy another bass"), I looked around for something newish or secondhand in the P bass line mainly, but I had an open mind. Obvious candidates were Squiers, the odd possibly suspiciously low priced MIM Fender Ps, also Yamahas, Ibanez and those underated gems, the Hohner Pro series and older Aria P basses. But having been there and done them all I wanted something fresh. And that's when I started for no particular reason to think about Overwater. Not the bespoke ones but the Tanglewood mass produced variety. Having looked into them a bit more I wasn't overwhelmingly keen. Reviews were mixed and the names of models and branding are so vague and random diving straight in isn't easy. But eventually I chanced upon a B Stock Contemporary Jazz from Nevada Music In Portsmouth for £189.99 and decided to give it a try on the basis I could always send it back. As I say the models are confusing but I sort of gathered this was their cheapest model with a PJ configuration. Which suits my jazz/blues interest perfectly. I was a little nervous opening the box but was reassured by what I saw, not least by what I couldn't see - the reason it had been sold as B stock. Looked new and unblemished to me. Everything seemed very well finished. I hate sharp fret ends and have had problems with them on several Yams and a Westfield. These were OK. The Overwater bridge was simple but more substantial than the usual bent tin. The pots worked fine. There were quality touches like screw-down ferrules on the tuner barrels to prevent them popping out. Best of all the single coil pup was silent. How Overwater do that I don't know. Quite impressive was that straight from the factory it was set up properly: relief, string height and intonation. Barely needed a tweak. So what did it play like? Wellll.... Awful. I was really disappointed. Thin, reedy at the top and lacking oomph at the bottom. 'Bland', the description used in several critical interweb posts, was the mildest word I used. To be fair, sustain was very good.... but. Bugger... I was on the verge of sending the bass back to Nevada, but then I thought I'd just try changing the issue Overwater nickel strings before I called time. So off with them and on went a very old worn set of my favourite D'Addario flats. Oh wot? Different machine! [u]Great [/u]top end, bottom end and everything in between. And not bland, for me anyway, characterful and very flexible sound. FWIW and YMMV, with the right strings the Overwater Tanglewoods are, in my experience anyway, fantastic value for money, certainly bear comparison with the competition and to my ears are anything but bland and cheap. One of these days maybe I'll engineer the chance to compare it to an Overwater Overwater and see if ten times the price will mean ten times the quality. I'd pretty much bet folding money that the poor relation will stand up well.

I don't know nuffing about nuffing, but i struggled for a year to get a tone out of my TC head that I liked. Then I bought a 400w Warwick Pro Fet IV and fell instantly in love and have persuaded it to come to bed with me. Clean clean bass sound with EQ totally flat. I'm not sure my current TC 210 cab is the ideal partner for this threesome but on the head side of things I am sorted.