dannybuoy

My cab collection consists of precisely those cabs, having bought the Barefaced to replace the Ampegs as a one-cab solution. Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to compare both setups under the same conditions and now my band has decided to call it a day, I'm not sure when I'll be able to. Not terribly useful, I know! Definitely more low end out of the Barefaced, but the stacked Ampegs end up with speakers right by your ears which is great for being able to hear yourself.

This! Hot pickups do not make cabs rattle. Sending too much bass to cabs that can't handle it does. It's all about what's coming out of the speaker cable, if that's what you need to tame, you need to reduce bass and/or volume somewhere in the chain, and it makes most sense to do that with the amp controls, or a HPF. Setting up the bass to lower it's output will have the same effect as just reducing the gain on the amp. Why get your screwdrivers out when there's a knob for the job?

It's way more expensive, much bigger and the HPF isn't adjustable. The Broughton is all analog as well btw. Depends if you can sacrifice the cash, board space and lack of adjustable HPF so that you can acquire another EQ and DI output? (I thought not!) I would go with the $70 or $95 HPF unless you need the LPF as well to act as a cab sim for dirt pedals (and since you're using the amp drive with it's tone control, the LPF is probably redundant). Or try and pick up a used Thumpinator first, they pop up reasonably often!

If your preamp was overloaded you might hear distortion or see the clip light come on more, but that's it. Basses naturally have different output levels, but this is what the gain control on the amp is for. By all means get the bass set up so it's sounding it's best, but adjusting pickup heights so all your basses have the same volume night not be the best way to go. I did adjust my pickup heights, but it's something I do when setting up all my basses. If your cab is rattling then it is simply getting too much low end energy at a particular frequency or it might have some damping or build issues. Lowering the pickup might stop it rattling simply because you are lowering the volume - but you would get the same effect by simply turning down the gain, bass EQ or master volume on the amp. If you then turned up the master so you had the same output level, then expect the rattling to come back. If you find that a Thumpinator doesn't help, but want to chop off the deepest lows that are making your cab sweat without affecting the audible lows very much (like the bass EQ on the amp would), an adjustable HPF is just the ticket. Give the AcBs Pre (or whatever it was called) in the Zoom a bash, and if it turns out to be a good solution you know you can get that in a standalone pedal from Broughton!

Preamp overload does not make your cab rattle.

Unsure if you're serious but he sets it up like that on purpose!

That is a downside of the hard case - my previous PT boards I could get away with a bit of overhang here and there but not so with these! With bearing in mind if trying to decide which version to get.

I mean it sounds good. The only way you can have the speaker sim off going to your rig is to run dual Sansamps, or maybe go for a Two Notes Le Bass which only applies its speaker sim to the XLR only. But then that's a totally different sound. I understand not wanting to run a speaker sim into an actual cab, as I felt the same way, but in reality it just sounds good so it's no big deal!

It affects both, but I've not found it to be a problem with a speaker sim going into a real speaker. The parallel out is totally unaffected.

From the chart looks like it is better suited to cutting out audible lows than being a sharp rolloff at 30Hz Thumpinator kind of filter. But that's probably just what Al needs if he doesn't want to fix his cab!

I'm sure the person who said the Zoom could be used as an LPF was using the model of the Fishman preamp rather than the generic para EQ?

Not much mention of this one, but it's the original specialist HPF for bassists: https://sites.google.com/site/hpftechllc/home/hpf-pre

As I said, check with Dougie Darkglass but I think the M900 is already rolling off those subsonics. You probably want to roll off a bit higher than you think, which makes the Broughton a good candidate with its adjustable frequency. But also try some other solutions. How and where are the cabs situated? If you’re getting this at home and haven’t tried it out at a rehearsal or gig yet, are you sure there’s not something else in the room resonating that sounds like it’s coming from the cab? Try repositioning the cab or putting some isolation under it (a pillow will do if you don’t have a gramma pad to hand!).

Why not?! There are plenty of great musicians out there who also have careers / families and don’t want to play full time. These guys are obviously at a reasonably competent level and just want someone to fit in.

I think you sometimes have trouble seeing things from other peoples perspectives, not everyone wants or needs to play bass to make a living. Just having a reason to get out and play every now and then around their busy lives is all some people are looking for. Being a family man myself, any band project would be a hobby for me, I could handle 5-6 gigs a year but any more would become a chore. Sounds like they are in the same boat, and are up front and honest about it. I don’t think their requirements are over the top at all, they obviously have little free time so don’t want to waste any more of it than necessary by auditioning people that aren’t up to scratch.

Indeed a lot of amps feature one but just don't mention it, as some designers consider it a standard thing rather than a selling point! Hence @Al Krow might not need one at all with the Darkglass head! Same goes for anything Genz Benz / Genzler, not sure about other makes.

Another thing to realise regarding the eternal oddity of Barefaced 10s... Say you have two generic drivers in a cab, of 8 ohms each. You have a choice of wiring them in parallel (4 ohms) or series (16 ohms). You build a similar cab but with the 10" Barefaced speakers. The One10 is 8 ohms so we assume that is the rating for this speaker also. But this time our end results are either 4 ohms in parallel or 12 ohms in series. However in theory you would only be able to get 12 ohms total if the drivers were in fact 6 ohms each. So it's likely that your One10 might actually be closer 6 ohms rather then 8. In any case, when trying to calculate your total load, try both values out and realise it might be somewhere in the middle!

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Assuming the drivers are wired serial in the 12-ohm cab (and parallel in the 4-ohm cab), you could get the power distributed evenly among the speakers with a serial cable or switchbox (which OBBM knows all about as he builds them!) but then with 20-ish-ohms on the amp your output power will be lowered significantly!

If you're using the M900 as your main amp, check in with Doug first. Pretty sure he said there was no need to use a HPF with his amp as it had one built in.

Not many para-EQ pedals have the flexibilty to offer LPF/HPF. Usually they are high/low shelving with notch/peak for the mids. According to the marketing at least, the Thumpinator has a more complex filter purposely designed to have as steep a roll off as possible without having a peak around the cutoff frequency or affecting the audible range. There's not many out there Al, the FDeck and Thumpinator units were the original only two you could really get in pedal form, then you have Broughton and the Tech21 Q-Strip which you know about. Not aware of any others but I did hear the Zoom units could be set up as an HPF from one of the users around here.

Uniformly? Plenty of happy users on the various iOS threads here and Talkbass. I assume you're talking about the older cheaper iRig versions that just route the bass through to the phone's built in mic input. The newer HD models have a built in audio interface so quality is miles better. I've not tried an iRig HD but do know it is similarly classed to the Sonic Port which I do have - which when combined with a decent amp sim app sounds better (IMHO) than the ones on offer in the Zoom B1on. The free Garageband app has Ampeg models in it which sound great. The Zoom does win on a few other factors though, you can add it to your pedalboard for one, you won't have to further invest in apps to get your sounds, and it'll still be useful if you ever decide to ditch Apple. The headphone output wasn't loud enough for me though and the master volume control is buried within a menu which I found a pain.

Which Polytune do you have, the clip on? Sounds like it's faulty, so if it's still in warranty, send it back. If it's out of warranty, sell it to a left handed player (assuming you're a righty)!

You would end up with almost double the power (it would be double for a 16ohm cab, but only Alex himself knows how they manage to get either 12 or 4 ohms from these cabs!) going to the One10 than going to the Two10... Then since the Two10 splits that between 2 drivers, the speaker in the little cab is doing up to 4 times as much work as the other two! My maths are probably out a bit but it doesn't sound like a good idea.